I enjoyed this.

If you don't look at anything else about this issue, look at this. There's a Mitt Romney clip in here that is priceless. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-16-2012/democalypse-2012---bain-damage---romney-s-blind-trust ~

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502808563078480&set=a.121514121207928.19102.10480232970&type=1&theater or have you seen the new Obama ad? And I am about to check out what Jon Stewart had to say. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Awesome link. And shows how no

Re: Bidding to make Pole Dancing an Olympic sport

Too late http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRXCgDK_wZo&feature=youtube_gdata_player It's sfw but I would not recommend drinking anything while watching. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com On Jul 17, 2012 3:14 PM, "Cameron Childress" wrote: > > Unintended consequ

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

Awesome link. And shows how not releasing is worse ... The imagination will start to take hold and now he's battling 50 ghosts instead of one or two. The dude changes his story more than a news crawler so why would he be afraid of contradicting something he's already said? He's ntmgoing to be

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-17/new-thoughts-about-what-s-hiding-in-romney-s-tax-returns.html for example On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Dana wrote: > The difference is that the opinion on romney's taxes is being expressed by > credible people. Saw it today on bloomberg, slate and I

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Actually, six months ago, Romney was the one Republican I actually would have considered voting for if he has a reasonable running mate. But he has done so many things in the campaign that sickened me, and that ad was the capper. That being said, I'm not pleased with the O man either - I hate

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Are those politicians running for office on the premise that these investments qualified them as authorities on job creation? If so you might have a point. On Jul 17, 2012 12:46 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > "Yehhh ... What's the problem with any investment as long as its > legal?" > > Appar

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The difference is that the opinion on romney's taxes is being expressed by credible people. Saw it today on bloomberg, slate and I'm pretty sure forbes On Jul 17, 2012 12:42 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > "Does it make me think he knows how to create jobs in America, um, no." > > Which makes him

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The idea of retiring "retroactively" is absurd. I'm baffled that anyone would actually accept that as an explanation. It's also extremely poor judgement to remain as owner and head of an organisation that is running, and claim to have absolutely no concern or knowledge of what that enterprise is

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I didn't see the original to this since I filter Jerry, but it's worth noting that even if someone else was running the company, Romney owned it. All of it. He was the sole stockholder and could have fired the management anytime he wanted to. I also wonder if, when he "retroactively retired" he r

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at least it would allow people to understand the wider agenda. As it is they hide behind fuzzy warm happy names... On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That doesn't really strike me as transparency or accountability. Just > more talking heads on more commercials. > > Judah

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > " Perhaps he did not 'order' any outsourcing, but both he and his > family profited > from it. " > > As has anyone who has money invested in almost any mutual fund that has > grown. As an > example

Re: Bidding to make Pole Dancing an Olympic sport

Synchronized Pole Dancing would be interesting. J - When they call the roll in the Senate, the senators do not know whether to answer present or not guilty. - Theodore Roosevelt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! ht

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Project much, Jerry? Jesus. If you want to run on your record as a business man, as Romney has put out there as his primary qualifier (running away from his record as Governor) then he should be prepared to put out details of his time as a business man. Not too difficult. That being said, I thin

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" The distortion in that one ad alone would keep me from voting for him. " Come on Maureen. Was there ever any chance that you would vote for him anyway? Was there any chance that you would vote for a GOP candidate regardless of whom the nominee was? I personally think not. Kind of like ther

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" Perhaps he did not 'order' any outsourcing, but both he and his family profited from it. " As has anyone who has money invested in almost any mutual fund that has grown. As an example, yo

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Perhaps he did not "order" any outsourcing, but both he and his family profited from it. If he wants to be disclaim the action, he should disclaim the profits. If he thinks outsourcing is a legitimate way of earning money, he should say so and stop pretending he disapproves of it when the other

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If I had the time or the energy, I'd put up a non-partisan website that debunked all the ads and outed the people or organizations behind them. As it is I just grit my teeth and occasionally point out the worst offenders on my Slapping Idiots blog. I will say that every ad I've seen from the Oba

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"There is a difference between legal and ethical and the difference depends on the moral framework of the person doing the judging. If Romney feels that his business dealings were both legal and ethical, then he should put it all out there on the table and run with it. " Outstanding. So, should

Re: Bidding to make Pole Dancing an Olympic sport

Imagine mixed doubles... On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Unintended consequences: Male Pole Dancing > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> Personally, I think that if they allow Race Walking they really ought >> to allow Pole Dancing as well.

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" The point is that Mitt wants to accuse Obama of outsourcing without accepting responsibility for the same when it happened on his watch. " And here where the contention is. According to many fact checking sites, Romney did not order any outsourcing. So, you are starting with a highly suspect

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Unintended consequences: Male Pole Dancing On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Personally, I think that if they allow Race Walking they really ought > to allow Pole Dancing as well. It is more difficult and way more > spectator-friendly.

Bidding to make Pole Dancing an Olympic sport

Personally, I think that if they allow Race Walking they really ought to allow Pole Dancing as well. It is more difficult and way more spectator-friendly. http://www.buzzfeed.com/hillaryreinsberg/can-pole-dancing-get-recognized-as-an-olympic-spor Cheers, Judah ~~

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That doesn't really strike me as transparency or accountability. Just more talking heads on more commercials. Judah On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I for one would like some real transparency and accountability. I > want Obama to have a major attack ad adn at the end

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I for one would like some real transparency and accountability. I want Obama to have a major attack ad adn at the end of it say I am Barak Obama, and it pisses me off that this has been allowed to happen that I am completely behind this ad. I want one of the Koch Brothers at the end of an anti-Ob

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You should be mad at one event at a time. This one is Obama's screw up. Saying they all do it is not acceptable. . On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Maureen wrote: > > The point is that Mitt wants to accuse Obama of outsourcing without > accepting responsibility for the same when it happened on

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

There is a difference between legal and ethical and the difference depends on the moral framework of the person doing the judging. If Romney feels that his business dealings were both legal and ethical, then he should put it all out there on the table and run with it. Then voters can decide if the

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The point is that Mitt wants to accuse Obama of outsourcing without accepting responsibility for the same when it happened on his watch. Or to blame Obama for problems that occurred years before he was elected, but refuse to accept blame for actions that happened when Mitt was in the CEO chair. I

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"Yehhh ... What's the problem with any investment as long as its legal?" Apparently nothing if you have the right letter behind your name. Is it "D" or is it "R"? Over the last few weeks, I have seen several articles showing how prominent Democrats have invested large sums in overseas ventu

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"Does it make me think he knows how to create jobs in America, um, no." Which makes him differ from President Obama in what way? "Some people think he may be refusing to release his returns because he took advantage of that tax shelter amnesty a couple of years back." Some people are think Bar

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CNN and Factcheck are saying this is a non story but if Obama says it's true enough time... http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gergen-bain-romney/index.html . On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Yehhh ... What's the problem with any investment as long as its legal? >

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exactly. He keeps saying that he complied with the law. Kinda. Some people think he may be refusing to release his returns because he took advantage of that tax shelter amnesty a couple of years back. But sure. Investing in a company that outsources jobs is legal. Does it make me think he knows h

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I wonder who else did the same thing? But then again, anyone else who did the same is not running for president so it's not news. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Dana wrote: > > In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated) By > ALEXANDER > BURNS

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Yehhh ... What's the problem with any investment as long as its legal? Here's what Romney needs to do: A.) it's confusing and stupid sounding to retroactively retire. Just say you had a lead role, but had delegated management. B.) own the outsourcing. Use it. If romneys constituency at

Re: Texas Voter ID Court Case Star Witnesses

"I am not what most would consider an advocate of voter ID laws, but so far, when I have asked proponents of them how exactly the laws will impact minorities more, no one seems to be able to answer the question." The first thing it would do is protect the strength of the minority vote buy not let

Re: Texas Voter ID Court Case Star Witnesses

I am not what most would consider an advocate of voter ID laws, but so far, when I have asked proponents of them how exactly the laws will impact minorities more, no one seems to be able to answer the question. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I expect Texas to lose the

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

So, if I am reading this correctly, Bain invested money in a company that was already planning to move into an overseas market. That is, Bain did not direct the move, but the company was already planning to expand its market. These two lines "An arm of Bain Capital invested $4 million in a softw