Assumes facts not in evidence.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> I am sure you are capable of searching the archives...
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Plus add into the equatio0n all the illegal aliens that pay taxes since
they are using fake SSN's but not collecting on it...
-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 1:19 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teab
Yeah...logic is a hard thing for you guys
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
That made my head spin. You do realize the lockbox is empty?
That money is long gone
Ideally, Social Security would have been a trust fund in reality, not
just name. However, a large surplus is a golden thing in the realms of
politics, so the urge to take money from the trust fund for something
or other important was great and they replaced some parts of the trust
fund with IOUs,
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> Just look at the demographics of the country, that tells the whole story. If
> you don't have enough workers, you can't pay for the retirees.
I have looked at the demographics. Hence, you know, why I just wrote a
whole freaking long email a
f-community
> Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
>
>
> I didn't see any data. Can you direct me to it?
>
> .
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Eric Roberts
> wrote:
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>> So posting data is talking out of his ass? Seeing as
That made my head spin. You do realize the lockbox is empty?
That money is long gone. Now remake your argument knowing that.
.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> What you are forgetting is that if we are indeed going back to pre boom
> levels, then that would be the lev
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Looks like it worked on you :P
>
It is because I'm a Judah Lover. =)
:Den
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On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> >
> > Tweaks do nothing but delay the inevitable. I like the Iroquois notion of
> > considering the effects of our actions on the next seven generations. In
> > seven generations, Soc
I am sure you are capable of searching the archives...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:45 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
I didn't see any data. Can you direct me to it?
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On Sat, N
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-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:48 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
>
> Tweaks do nothing but delay the inevitable. I like the Ir
I didn't see any data. Can you direct me to it?
.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> So posting data is talking out of his ass? Seeing as you hadn't posted
> data, what puckered orifice are you talking out of
So posting data is talking out of his ass? Seeing as you hadn't posted
data, what puckered orifice are you talking out of?
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:41 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
Personal responsibility...please...that is one of the lamest responses from
you yet Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
" Ah, the wails of ou
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> Tweaks do nothing but delay the inevitable. I like the Iroquois notion of
> considering the effects of our actions on the next seven generations. In
> seven generations, Social Security will have failed because it was
> unsustainable. So you
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM, denstar wrote:
> Judah has been nice enough to post data that backs his perspective.
No he doesn't. He just talks politely out of his ass to see how many
people he can fool.
Looks like it worked on you :P
.
>> And the piece de resistance, the payees have to s
" Ah, the wails of outrage! So the solution is let people eat today and
starve tomorrow. Got it. Great job sticking your head in the sand."
And take all personal responsibility away from people for planning for their
own future and taking care of their family. Build the dependence on a Nanny
Sta
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> To recap: there are several options on the table which include various
> combinations of raising the income limit to which fica applies (hardly
> bleeding the taxpayer more until there is no money left), raising the
> retirement age sligh
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:24 AM, denstar wrote:
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>
> Hell, we spend huge amounts on "defense", and how often have you
> complained about that? It's always "social program" this, and "social
> program" that. "We're going bankrupt trying to care for people!",
> never: "we're going bankrupt kill
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:50 PM, denstar wrote:
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> Wouldn't it be cool if we could all choose what to spend our taxes on?
>
> Then folks who didn't like paying for bombs, or roads in places they
> never drive too, wouldn't have to!
>
>
I don't think it's such a bad idea to give people some dir
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> You know if you were a bit more connected with reality instead of
> ideology you'd notice a few things aboutt what has happened lately,
> the TARP has only cost the government 29 billion so far, and may even
> make a profit. With GM's IPO
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
...
Judah has been nice enough to post data that backs his perspective.
> And the piece de resistance, the payees have to sign up, but
> the recipients can opt out.
...
Wouldn't it be cool if we could all choose what to spend our taxes on?
T
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "shall I start the quote factory? "
>
> I don't know what the quote factory is? If you want to start it and it
> doesn't infringe on anyone else's unalienable rights such as Life, Liberty
> and pursuit of Happiness, go right ahead.
Live t
"No, really, look at what the progressives have done - trapped us into
an economic death spiral caused by the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.
Thanks progressives!"
As far as Ponzi schemes go, SS is a beauty. It makes Madoff look like
an amateur.
Current recipients are paid the money by multipl
"shall I start the quote factory? "
I don't know what the quote factory is? If you want to start it and it
doesn't infringe on anyone else's unalienable rights such as Life, Liberty
and pursuit of Happiness, go right ahead.
"You are being very disingenuous."
Oh. You were serious.
Holy cow.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> The numbers show quite clearly that within decades the fund goes negative
> and never comes back. Medicare might be a more immediate problem, but
> practical considerations will eventually cap fees, doctors visits, drugs,
> procedures, and a
You know if you were a bit more connected with reality instead of
ideology you'd notice a few things aboutt what has happened lately,
the TARP has only cost the government 29 billion so far, and may even
make a profit. With GM's IPO the government may even make money off of
it.
As for Social Secu
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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>>
>> And, once again, Social Security is not the problem. Medicare? Hell
>> yes, big nasty problem. Social Security? Not so much. I can show you
>> the numbers again if you like but it
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> And, once again, Social Security is not the problem. Medicare? Hell
> yes, big nasty problem. Social Security? Not so much. I can show you
> the numbers again if you like but it doesn't seem to keep you from
> spouting the same ignorant b
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> No, really, look at what the progressives have done - trapped us into an
> economic death spiral caused by the biggest Ponzi scheme in history. Thanks
> progressives!
Oh yes, the 100s of millions of people who have been helped by Social
Sec
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Now look at what the progressives have done for the country. Social
> Security, Medicare, unemployment and workmen's comp, national parks, raised
> the standard of living etc."
>
> Larry, I thought your sense of humor was warped and then
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Death to both of 'em! To all of em, really."
>
> Now your talking!
>
...
LOL!
:Den
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People are like dirt. They can either nourish you and help you grow as
a person or they can stunt your growth and make you wilt and die.
Plato
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shall I start the quote factory? You are being very disingenuous.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Death to both of 'em! To all of em, really."
>
> Now your talking!
>
>
> "I watch you and Larry insult each other like 5 year oldsand you two
> supposedly represent the
simple yes.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Death to both of 'em! To all of em, really."
>
> Now your talking!
>
>
> "I watch you and Larry insult each other like 5 year oldsand you two
> supposedly represent the intelligentsia!"
>
> Just Larry. I am in no way affi
"Now look at what the progressives have done for the country. Social
Security, Medicare, unemployment and workmen's comp, national parks, raised
the standard of living etc."
Larry, I thought your sense of humor was warped and then you provide us with
satire gold. Way to go. A good belly laugh i
"Death to both of 'em! To all of em, really."
Now your talking!
"I watch you and Larry insult each other like 5 year oldsand you two
supposedly represent the intelligentsia!"
Just Larry. I am in no way affiliated with the intelligentsia. I am just a
simple man.
J
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I refuse to leave o
Ok robert we'll just take your word on that...
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 19, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> A couple of people in the protests used the term "Tea Bag" and the liberal
> press picked it up and made fools of themselves by slandering the entire
> movement with the epit
A couple of people in the protests used the term "Tea Bag" and the liberal
press picked it up and made fools of themselves by slandering the entire
movement with the epithet "teabagger". Shameful and unprofessional by
so-called journalists, in addition to being childish in the extreme.
On Fri, N
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Rick Root wrote:
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> I would love Sarah Palin as a presidential candidate like Michigan
> fans loved Ohio State head coach John Cooper - cuz he couldn't beat
> us.
>
> (Man, I miss that guy)
>
>
Michigan's current head coach is a smarmy, weasel of a man. I hate R
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Rick Root wrote:
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> I hope she wins the republican nomination for president in 2012. I
> *DARE* the republican party to put her on the ticket again.
I would love Sarah Palin as a presidential candidate like Michigan
fans loved Ohio State head coach John Cooper
I took great satisfaction knowing that two of the Tea Party's biggest
whack jobs failed to win elections (Christine O'Donnell and Sharon
Angle.
And It pleased me even more to know that Sarah Palin's endorsed
candidate in her own state of Alaska failed to win election .. and not
only that, lost to
Actually, the teabaggers dubbed themselves early on with that moniker...
-Original Message-
From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
I'm guessing Larry is bitter about the r
And frankly the childish insults you people deliver I can handle. you
dish the crap and I'll just give it back. Your junior fascism is not
impressive.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Not bitter. Impressed with the propaganda effort put on and aided by a
> very ideologic
Not bitter. Impressed with the propaganda effort put on and aided by a
very ideological supreme court.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> I'm guessing Larry is bitter about the recent election and blames the Tea
> Party for the downfall of the progressive agenda after just t
It's funny how Larry acts like a 5-year-old but some how Jerry got
tagged with the label. I guess your theory is right.
.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> I'm guessing Larry is bitter about the recent election and blames the Tea
> Party for the downfall of the progressiv
I'm guessing Larry is bitter about the recent election and blames the Tea
Party for the downfall of the progressive agenda after just two years. Hence
the childishness about the Tea Party name. Play in the sewer and you might
just get sh!t all over yourself.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:50 AM, G Mon
Thisng is look at what the neoconns and the tea baggers have given us.
Now look at what the progressives have done for the country. Social
Security, Medicare, unemployment and workmen's comp, national parks,
raised the standard of living etc. Another way to look at it is that
every administration
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "This American person would like to politely ask the Tea Party to die in a
> fire."
>
> This American person would like to politely ask the Progressive Movement to
> die in a fire.
>
Death to both of 'em! To all of em, really.
I watch yo
only if you're into getting that sort of kinky thing done by old fat
white men. I don't know about you Jerry , but I have better ways of
spending my evenings.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "If the tea party members are tea-baggers, that would make you the
> tea-bagee."
"If I recall correctly, all three of those instances had the people you name
pushing for more ballots being counted, not less. Obviously we need to set
standards. When questions arise, however, I favor erring on the side of
enfranchisement and counting people's votes."
You recall only half correc
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "You mean like his contesting every minor misspelling in the ballots. Also
> that Miller tried to get write in ballots thrown out even with Murkowski's
> name being spelled correctly."
>
> Like Al Franken, Al Gore, and Christine Gregoire?
>
"If the tea party members are tea-baggers, that would make you the
tea-bagee."
Ouch! That's going to leave a mark.
J
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The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest
causes. - Thomas Paine
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"This American person would like to politely ask the Tea Party to die in a
fire."
This American person would like to politely ask the Progressive Movement to
die in a fire.
J
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As long as human beings are imperfect, there will always be arguments for
extending the power of government to deal
"You mean like his contesting every minor misspelling in the ballots. Also
that Miller tried to get write in ballots thrown out even with Murkowski's
name being spelled correctly."
Like Al Franken, Al Gore, and Christine Gregoire?
That's the state of politics. I don't like it, but that's the wa
s [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:30 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites it
>
>
> You mean like his contesting every minor misspelling in the ballots.
> Also that Miller tried to get write in ballots thrown out even with
>
Why preface that with Alaskan? The Republican Party period has a long
history of trying to win via disenfranchisement.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:30 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Another teabagger bites
WTF, I'll play.
If the tea party members are tea-baggers, that would make you the tea-bagee.
Enjoy your tea.
.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> sounds like your typical starting routine.
>
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sounds like your typical starting routine.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Sam wrote:
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> When they start off a thread with a childish insult it can only go
> down from there.
>
> Hold you nose and move on.
>
> .
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>>
>> The process wor
When they start off a thread with a childish insult it can only go
down from there.
Hold you nose and move on.
.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> The process worked like it should. The people have spoken at the ballot
> box. What more can the Alaskans and American pe
I assume those quotes are pure hyperbolic malarkey, since there are no
links.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Since Miller was a fairly typical teabagger, or so it would seem, then
> his attitudes towards democracy and equal right are very worrisome.
> First there is
Since Miller was a fairly typical teabagger, or so it would seem, then
his attitudes towards democracy and equal right are very worrisome.
First there is his trying to rig his election to the GOP State
Chairmanship a couple of years ago. Then in his own words during the
campaign:
"What about all
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> The process worked like it should. The people have spoken at the ballot
> box. What more can the Alaskans and American people ask for?
>
This American person would like to politely ask the Tea Party to die in a
fire.
Respectfully,
G
You mean like his contesting every minor misspelling in the ballots.
Also that Miller tried to get write in ballots thrown out even with
Murkowski's name being spelled correctly.
It would seem that the Alaskan republican party isn't all that into
the democratic process if it doesn't go their way.
The process worked like it should. The people have spoken at the ballot
box. What more can the Alaskans and American people ask for?
J
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This is a rich country. We have plenty of money, and if you dont believe
me, ask Haliburton. Theres plenty of money out there; dont fall into the
trap of
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/murkowski-wins-reelection.html?hpid=artslot
Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski wins write-in bid, AP says
The Associated Press has called the Alaska Senate race for Sen. Lisa
Murkowski, a victory that would make her the first senator since 1954
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