On 12/20/06, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> fyi my sleep lab seems to think that ADD symptoms are absolutely a
> symptom of sleep deprivation. The two do correlate, though causation
> is unclear. My psychiatrist disagrees, or possibly doesn't care. He
> just treats the symptoms.
The problem
> Larry,
>
> You might have, but I can tell you this. I sat there and saw this
> manual as you call it, with the test that comes along with it.
Let me reach across my desk and get my copy of it. Yep its called the DSM-IVR.
Published in 2002 by the American Psychiatric Publishers
Nope no tests
>Actually Larry you are wrong again.
No I'm not:
http://www.amazon.com/Diagnostic-Statistical-Disorders-DSM-IV-TR-Revision/dp/0890420254/sr=8-1/qid=1166757478/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1471696-2628911?ie=UTF8&s=books
and for the link challenged
http://www.antiwrap.com/?1109
I think you are confused
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 12:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>Actually Larry you are wrong again.
>
>The
>Actually Larry you are wrong again.
>
>The manual as you put it is for specially trained people in that area, and
>it is up to those people from the results of the test, to diagnose and
>identify what is wrong with someone.
I know, I took 2 semesters on the DSM-IV during grad school. I am an ABD,
>Dana,
>
>Yes it is a test, pencil & paper, IQ and verbal as well as a couple of other
>things.
No its not. Its a description system. There is a wide leeway on the diagnoses
involved - glad I took that course on the DSM-IV in grad school, it turned
out to be more on how to get insurance to pay
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 11:42 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>Well first of all, you need to see one who specialise in that field to be
>tested. And the test is called DSM-IVR, which is then used to treat yo
Mobile: 0404 998 273
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 11:35 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
References please?
While I am not an expert, I have not heard of stuff that reliably links
Asperger'
>Well first of all, you need to see one who specialise in that field to be
>tested. And the test is called DSM-IVR, which is then used to treat you. Now
>this test identifies not that you have one or the other, but identifies
>everything that is needed to cure ones problem.
Remember what the DSM s
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>From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
>
>From what I understand Asperger's is n
::snort:: ok, I have stuff to do
On 12/21/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so what it all boils down to is that you really weren't into
> bi-ology.at the time, you were just bi-curious.
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> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
> > >
> > &
;
> Man that sounds like fun.
>
> I really wish I had gone to school sometimes.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet
Man that sounds like fun.
I really wish I had gone to school sometimes.
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
> I took a programming
I took a programming class second semester my freshman yearmostly just
because I was curious. My intended major was biology.
Our teacher taught us all about the constructs of the C++ language. She
built up a library of the tools from day one, then we practically applied
them. I learned so much
Dana,
Yes it is a test, pencil & paper, IQ and verbal as well as a couple of other
things.
Sounds like your school system is the same as ours. Asperger is also know as
higher functioning Autism, and the person I know as a bit of ADHD, asperger
and Autistic behaviour so he is being treated for 3 c
I don't have any personal experience on Asperger's or autism, though
I've seen it discussed on some of the special-ed lists. That may be
the difference here. So if I understand you, you are saying that this
is an actual test? Paper and pencil, or a set of criteria?
As for people being undiagnosed,
Hmmm,
Yes the DSM-IVR does more than that.
For example, what makes asperger different to Autism is that these people
are still very coherent the difference is that these people have a different
outset than a normal person and the only way to diagnose these conditions
and treat them is with the DS
;
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 1:15 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
> Interesting. What test are we talking about? Cause I have never heard
> of this. Not say
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 1:15 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
Interesting. What test are we talking
sion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613 8676 4223
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Educati
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>From what I understand Asperger'
]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:25 AM
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> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
> >Sure no problem? what are we searching for?
> >
> >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
>
> ADHD and related terms, car
>You might also want to throw in asperger's syndrome as well, it is a
>sometimes labelled as higher functioning autism but is part of the
>ADD/ADHD/AS and autism spectrum.
>
>
>
>Andrew Scott
>Senior Coldfusion Developer
>Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
>www.aegeon.com.au
>Phone: +613 8676 4223
>Mobile: 0404 998
fyi my sleep lab seems to think that ADD symptoms are absolutely a
symptom of sleep deprivation. The two do correlate, though causation
is unclear. My psychiatrist disagrees, or possibly doesn't care. He
just treats the symptoms.
I very much second the sentiment about being diagnosed earlier
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:25 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>Sure no problem? what are we searching for?
>
>On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>&g
>Sure no problem? what are we searching for?
>
>On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
ADHD and related terms, careers, web development etc., but not things like
counseling, etc. I'll have to figure it out more later, too tired to think
properly about it now. I'll be very glad w
>We chewed out D F for hijacking threads...
>
>I tried workarounds (albeit without any councelling) nothing seemed to
>work. I still have my bad days..
>Do you find that your symptoms are worse when you don't get enough sleep?
>
Somewhat. I had not really related them to lack of sleep or tiredne
> Weegs wrote:
> ill smoke those fags on a computer
> and make mad cash in the meantime.
>
You'll smoke their what, where?
Anyway, colleges are famous for NOT teaching programming. CS courses
teach "science" not how to program. They'll tell you they're not a
trade school, they're a college.
Th
Sure no problemÂ… what are we searching for?
On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Time for a scholar.google.com search.
>
> Just did my first swipe at the search. Too many items came back, anyone want
> to help me with g
We chewed out D F for hijacking threads...
I tried workarounds (albeit without any councelling) nothing seemed to
work. I still have my bad days..
Do you find that your symptoms are worse when you don't get enough sleep?
Scott A. Stewart
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(202)-475-8875
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Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily
>multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case
respond to cf-community
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>Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily
>multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case
> >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Time for a scholar.google.com search.
Just did my first swipe at the search. Too many items came back, anyone want to
help me with getting the search terms right to make it a more manageable heap?
thx,
larry
~
>Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily
>multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case it's debilitating.
>Imagine someone has a tv remote control hooked up to your brain, and
>they're constantly changing channels.
>Multitaksing redily lends itself to programmin
> remember this...
>
> http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index.
> cfm?mode=entry&entry=5A7CD313-E081-293E-2A18B3AEBE83DEDD
>
> followed by the fucknut and his comments up with this...
>
> http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index.
> cfm?mode=entry&entry=5F3EA39E-E081-293E-2ADF130579EF4
y
>
>
>
>
>Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>12/20/2006 01:56 PM
>Please respond to cf-community
>
>
>To: CF-Community
> cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD)
>Subject:Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
>
>
>Wonder why (if it's true)?
>
>Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a
>programmer?
>
>Or is it just a big coincidence?
>
>On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
First off I'm not really sure if there's a relationship. I've just noticed that
it seems
Thats what I'm sayin T-man, GED was Good to me :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:13 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
>
> i resemble that comment raymundo!
&g
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Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
No, they are still saying it's a pre-existing condition and refuse to pay
for any treatment, said I should go to the VA. VA says I make too much
money, which I guess means I'm not a combat vet anym
nity
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remember this...
http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=5A7CD313-E081-293E-2A18B3AEBE83DEDD
followed by the fucknut and his comments u
cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD)
Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
i resemble that comment raymundo!
fuckin jerk.
:) hahhaha... adhd? haha... i wish.
800 on my sat's
1.6 gpa in high school
fuck college
ill smoke those fags on a computer
and make mad
on quick. Like a virus!
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
> > > Im
I think were up to about 5 worlds now! I'm gonna have to bone up on
string theory to keep track of this group anymore.
On 12/20/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This two world shit is hard to follow, maybe I have ADHD too.
>
> On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yah, creep eh? wh
Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around
> > though,
> > you're catching on quick. Like a virus!
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: D F [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM
> >
> I think that title is Tony's. Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around though,
> you're catching on quick. Like a virus!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM
> &g
This two world shit is hard to follow, maybe I have ADHD too.
On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yah, creep eh? what are you then the fuckin HOF clown?
>
>
>
> >You are blind to the terrorists
> >
> >Creep.
> >
> >*jerks off in his tighty whiteys*
> >
> >Merry Christmas. Holy Shit.
doctor
soon. It's a PITA, but the wifey is taking good care of me.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
>
> speaking o
I think that title is Tony's. Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around though,
you're catching on quick. Like a virus!
> -Original Message-
> From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject:
Yah, creep eh? what are you then the fuckin HOF clown?
>You are blind to the terrorists
>
>Creep.
>
>*jerks off in his tighty whiteys*
>
>Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol?
>
>On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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art/REAC/HHQ/HUD)
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Now add PTSD and all that goes with it, and you have my normal day :)
Lots of fun.
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ROFLMAO!!! 11
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Now add PTSD and all that goes with it, and you have my normal day :)
Lots of fun.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:34 PM
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>
That's the spirit! Put your back into it!
> -Original Message-
> From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
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> Importance: High
>
> BLAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
OK, now you have my attention...
On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> TITS!!!
>
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BLAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAA
TITS!!!
>You are blind to the terrorists
>
>Creep.
>
>*jerks off in his tighty whiteys*
>
>Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol?
>
>On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
~~
D]>
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Wonder why (if it's true)?
Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to beco
Excellent.
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
> You are blind to the terrorists
>
> Creep.
>
> *jerks off
Me 3
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:56 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
>
> >Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :)
> >
> >Scott A.
You are blind to the terrorists
Creep.
*jerks off in his tighty whiteys*
Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol?
On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't go getting all executivesontheweb on us, Ian. :)
>
>
> >
> > Is there anything more ADHD then a computer
Don't go getting all executivesontheweb on us, Ian. :)
>
> Is there anything more ADHD then a computer? Just a silly suggestion :-)
>
>
>
>
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Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a
programmer?
Is there anything more ADHD then a computer? Just a silly suggestion :-)
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Wonder why (if it's true)?
Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a
programmer?
Or is it just a big coincidence?
On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :)
> >
> >Scott A. Stewart
> >REAC/PASS-IT
> >(202)-475-8
it.
sas
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Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Yeah
>Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :)
>
>Scott A. Stewart
>REAC/PASS-IT
>(202)-475-8875
I told my dissertation committee to take a flying f**k and walked. Best move I
ever made.
Here's an interesting thought, I have no data to back it up, but I'm willing to
bet that there are proportionat
RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
Just like Einstein :)
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> Hey, I barely graduated h
Just like Einstein :)
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:55 PM
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> Hey, I barely graduated high school...
>
> Scott A. St
: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)
I agree, now if I could get the rest of the industry to agree I'd be set
:)
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
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I agree, now if I could get the rest of the industry to agree I'd be set :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
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>
> > tBone wrote
> tBone wrote:
> Why do you assume we're educated?
> I have a GED.
>
Here's something maybe controversial: our educational system sucks.
Most college grads are wholly unprepared to do anything practical and
many have poor grammar and math skills. So what'd they learn?? Not
much. Well I did lea
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