should have asked for a
statewide recount
Sounds like you agree with me on that?
Dana
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From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:52:31 -0400
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You are correct, I was
tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:29 PM
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On the statute...thank you. But doesnt this "entire geographic
jurisdiction" language apply to local elections? Actually, though, it
doesn't matter, because that
ion of the current language at some point too.
Dana
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From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:12:46 -0400
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OK, here is the state law:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K
better chance to get more votes.
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:49 PM
To: CF-Community
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interesting. I have never seen this interpretation. You sure about
that part about the partial recount not being allowed
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
hehe.
I have often said that South San Antonio might was well be in Mexico
:) LOL. For those unfamiliar, that's about what, 175 miles long and 30
miles
Jul 2004 19:39:34 -0400
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To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
When the ballot is not clear you are allowing the ballot to be interpreted
by people who may have an agenda. The laws in the state of Florida only
allow for a full statewide recount, Gore didn
hehe :)
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From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:40:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am sure he thinks so as well. :-)
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he
I am sure he thinks so as well. :-)
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he should have asked for a statewide recount. I agree. I think :)
Dana
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dont realize, Beaumont is an old Louisiana-type town in
the far SE of the state. Amarillo is in the northwest in the panhandle
and and is cattle country.
Dana
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From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:29:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Electoral College
s then the Electors for Governor Bush would have
been
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:49 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
All of the votes were not counted.
If Democrats caused votes to not be counted, that is wrong. If
R
the
Band Plays on.
We will probably see more of this in November if the election is close.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
I remember the Texas gerrymandering :) weren't
he should have asked for a statewide recount. I agree. I think :)
Dana
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From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:22:57 -0400
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Simple, when the standards for
thus the intent of the voters would not be
judged equally.
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:20 PM
To: CF-Community
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how can the intent of the voter not be constitutional? As I recall
there was an issue about
aud?
Dana
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From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:20:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This year the gerrymandering took place in Texas and Colorado - spearheaded by
Representative Ton DeLay, R
This year the gerrymandering took place in Texas and Colorado - spearheaded by
Representative Ton DeLay, R-TX
There is a battle going on already on voter fraud in one of the few remaining
Democratic districts.
I believe we will see much more to come soon.
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Nah, I've never heard of a clean campaign.
No, I mean actually managing the voting properly. Not busing in students from
out of state, no multiple voting, no extending polling times when it looked
like
munity
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
I remember something similar about military votes. Let's assume you
are right and that those votes were Republican, just for the sake of
the argument. It doesn't matter. The issue with Florida as I see it is
this:
All of the votes wer
Andy
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:40 PM
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you mean in terms of a clean campaign? Probably not; it's a big
country. But what does that have to do with whether
From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:46:28 -0500
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ok, wrong term(damn, I am suffering from Bush-idis). How about "funny
business". I believe that one or more of the democraticall
ednesday, July 28, 2004 2:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
Good to tangle with you again
Question: Did the democrats across run a lily clean election? Or, just
focus
on Florida. Wasn't there something about Military ballets, for example.
Andy
Republicans in power down there?
Not in the districts that had the problems.
>
> Dana
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:52:28 -0500
> Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
> To: CF
Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
There was something about military ballots. I'd have to look it up,
but there was something. However, aren't you assuming that those votes
would have been republican? And uh... correct me i
ida court
> to review, it found that their reason for allowing the recounts was not
> Constitutional and that they must issue a ruling that satisfied the
> constitution.
>
>
>
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> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 200
: Electoral College/DNC
Good to tangle with you again
Question: Did the democrats across run a lily clean election? Or, just
focus
on Florida. Wasn't there something about Military ballets, for example.
Andy
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[
licans in power down there?
Dana
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From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:52:28 -0500
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Good to tangle with you again
Question: Did the democrats across run
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> From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:52:28 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> --- Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Didn't
ly 28, 2004 2:27 PM
To: CF-Community
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stop the gerrymandering?
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From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:32:54 -0500
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTE
not
Constitutional and that they must issue a ruling that satisfied the
constitution.
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From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
Negative. Florida law, already established in a previous
stop the gerrymandering?
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From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:32:54 -0500
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am confused. I didn't realize that the Supreme Court changed th
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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--- Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Didn't the Supreme Court give Bush the 2000
> election? The electoral college
> ju
I known. I was just surprised that you passed up such an easy one. ;-)
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:50 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
Hey, I was referring to Mickey Mouse. Jeez can&#
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> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
>
> Dunno about that one, do we really want a Mickey Mouse President?
>
> larry
>
> On Wed, 28 Jul
n the decision
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:14 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
Why is the 2000 Election a hick-up at all, it shows that the laws and
process setup by the Constitution, Congres
You are too kind...
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:05 AM
To: CF-Community
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Dunno about that one, do we really want a Mickey Mouse President?
larry
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004
It's not his fault, he's just drawn that way?
or
Do you mean ANOTHER Mickey Mouse President?
Jerry Johnson
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Dunno about that one, do we really want a Mickey Mouse President?
larry
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
Except that has never been the rules of the game.
If one looks at the EC as a method of equalizing each state's say in their
Federal Government, then it serves a valuable role. It
Dunno about that one, do we really want a Mickey Mouse President?
larry
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:24:16 -0400, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:18 7/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >I think Disney is 100% digital at this point. They don't do any
> >traditional cell animation anymore. It is all
voting practices, and things which are
currently not standard at all. Doing this takes too much power away from the
states, cost billions of dollars.
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From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:34 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
Yes, that is
ons will
occur. It is not good practice to modify sound operating procedures for a one
time event that has passed.
Andy
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:13 AM
To: CF-Community
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I'm co
I am confused. I didn't realize that the Supreme Court changed the vote in
Florida. Didn't they just stop the gerrymandering?
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From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Elector
I read that in a bunch of places during the Comcast buyout bid for Diney.
One pulled quote:
Recognizing the need for improvement, Disney has decided to stop its traditional hand-drawn animation in favor of computer-generated works. In addition, the company has shown its willingness to invest larg
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
That is not a majority; a majority is getting greater than 50% of all votes
cast. Getting more than any other single choice is a plurality.
There was a 500,000 vote difference between Bush and Gore, and Nader got 2.3
million votes, neither Bush nor Gore
At 10:18 7/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>I think Disney is 100% digital at this point. They don't do any
>traditional cell animation anymore. It is all cgi.
>
>Their software is awesome. It should be able to keep up with the trial and
>the following presidency.
>
>The only question becomes who is hi
, July 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
I'm confused. There WAS a majority winner in both elections, wasn't there?
One candidate received more votes than another candidate, right? There's
your president. Perhaps i'm just too simplistic in t
How the Electoral College works:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/ecmenu2.htm
a.. Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S.
Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may
change each decade according to the size of each State's population as
I think Disney is 100% digital at this point. They don't do any traditional cell animation anymore. It is all cgi.
Their software is awesome. It should be able to keep up with the trial and the following presidency.
The only question becomes who is his veep? After Quayle and Gore, Goofy almost lo
From: Nick McClure
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
So what would we do with the 2000 and 1992 Elections?
Would we have a run off?
How would we handle absentee ballots, would only the people who voted the
first time aroun
?
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From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
Oh i know it would never pass.
And when i say a "majority", of course i mean a majority of the counted
votes. If 3 people in the US vote, and 2 voted for Mi
At 08:58 7/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Oh i know it would never pass.
>
>And when i say a "majority", of course i mean a majority of the counted
>votes. If 3 people in the US vote, and 2 voted for Mickey Mouse...he's
>yer prez.
I think Mickey Mouse would be disqualified because he can't produ
July 28, 2004 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
A question; would you still require a majority, even with the popular vote?
In 1992, and in 2000, no candidate had a majority of the popular votes.
Would you base the president on a plurality or a majority?
Oh and on a side note,
I'm pretty sure the Constitution of the United States and the laws in place
at the time of the election gave bush the 2000 election
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From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC
Didn&
--- Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Didn't the Supreme Court give Bush the 2000
> election? The electoral college
> just ratified that decision IMHO.
No. The the Supreme Court upheld the law that teh
Florida Supreme Court tried to ignore.
In the end all the votes were re-counted by
28, 2004 9:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
I guess i dont see any difference. Any future problems would be pretty much
handled the same way. The 500+ voting margin in Florida in 2000 gave Bush
Florida's electoral votes. Those represented a MUCH greater percentage o
Didn't the Supreme Court give Bush the 2000 election? The electoral college
just ratified that decision IMHO.
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From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The electoral college gave Bush the 2000 election. Without it, Gore wins, by
the popular voteand thats just the way it should be.
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Jim I was thinking about it, and before i would be for removing the electoral college.
But heres the problem i keep getting to in my head.
Its the state's job to elect the president, thats not going to change even if they get rid of the electoral college unless
Nah, Florida is getting much better. Oh, wait...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/28/florida.voting.ap/index.html
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From: Bill Wheatley
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC
So heres the problem
Jim I was thinking about it, and before i would be for removing the electoral college.
But heres the problem i keep getting to in my head.
Its the state's job to elect the president, thats not going to change even if they get rid of the electoral college unless they amend the constitution.
So h
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