Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
But finally - that the consequences of throwing out ALL the science and ignoring it are so dire that we HAVE to consider action now, even if part or all of the science is proven wrong later. Which science? On the side of the cult of man made global warming or against? Anyway, if any figure

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
like the way you phrase that. Actually are you qualified to comment even? You refer AGW to a cult. So is a general consensus of the scientific community considered a cult now? What about the current consensus on Gravity, is that a cult? What about General Relativity? Do we have a cult here?

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
like the way you phrase that. Actually are you qualified to comment even? You refer AGW to a cult. So is a general consensus of the scientific community considered a cult now? I've referred to it as a cult for years and, as has been presented repeatedly, there is not a consensus. Far from it.

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No consensus. Then how many qualified PhD level scientists who specialize in the field are calling AGW fraudulent etc. Even that big list that has been cited time and time again has fewer than 100 PhD level scientists are on it. And most of those who are do not specialize in climate research.

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
No consensus. Then how many qualified PhD level scientists who specialize in the field are calling AGW fraudulent etc. Even that big list that has been cited time and time again has fewer than 100 PhD level scientists are on it. And most of those who are do not specialize in climate research.

RE: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Ok... a medical doctor has an underlying degree in science, but I am certainly not going to go to my physician for advice on climatology... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Dana
I am still stuck on how limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment. Amazing the things that people think up. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Ok... a medical doctor has an underlying degree in science, but I am certainly not

RE: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...I am with you on that Dana. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread William Bowen
and Plan 9... Beware Agenda 21 -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: So we should be pumping even MORE greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to counter the coming mini ice age? Nope. Just keep an open mind and don't accept GW as an established fact. It is a theory and the science is

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Dana
exactly On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: So we should be pumping even MORE greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to counter the coming mini ice age? Nope. Just keep

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Sam
Like a broken record. Nobody is saying throw out all the science. They're just saying it is not settled. . On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: - But finally - that the consequences of throwing out ALL the science and ignoring it are so dire that we

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
Actually - you just agreed (in part) with my statements. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Like a broken record. Nobody is saying throw out all the science. They're just saying it is not settled. ..

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Sam
Yeah minus the dire and action now stuff. . On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: Actually - you just agreed (in part) with my statements. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And are you an expert in determining the scientific consensus or again are you just parroting the party line? What do you want for your settled science? Which btw is only a term used by extremists who keep moving the goal posts each time more data is shown to support AGW. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah minus the dire and action now stuff. Then we understand each other on this matter perfectly. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-31 Thread Jerry Barnes
So we should be pumping even MORE greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to counter the coming mini ice age? Nope. Just keep an open mind and don't accept GW as an established fact. It is a theory and the science is NOT in. Question the motives of those on both sides of the issue. J -

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-31 Thread Jerry Barnes
Just a reminder about a post I wrote a year ago. If the dailymail says it, double check with a reputable newspaper. Can you point out some reputable papers? I can't seem to find any. I find some that claim to be reputable. J - Protection of the environment has become the principal tool for

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-31 Thread LRS Scout
Beware Agenda 21 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Just a reminder about a post I wrote a year ago. If the dailymail says it, double check with a reputable newspaper. Can you point out some reputable papers? I can't seem to find any. I find some

RE: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Let me guess...a study funded by the oil industry? -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the

Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again) The supposed ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-29 Thread Vivec
So we should be pumping even MORE greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to counter the coming mini ice age? On 29 January 2012 23:51, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just a reminder about a post I wrote a year ago. If the dailymail says it, double check with a reputable newspaper. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:31391 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Forget global warming -

Re: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-29 Thread Gruss Gott
And here those silly glaciers are caving off chunks the size of connecticut! They've even let themselves melt so much that the northwest passage is open for the first time since ... Ever. Glaciers never consider the real data. On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com