Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
>You're framing a question that doesn't need to be asked. The real >question any company asks is where can deliver the most return to >shareholders? And if the greatest revenue opportunity is in China, >and if having a headquarters there gets that money, then yes. Again we're not talking about

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > 1- Hongkong != Beijing > 2- one Office != moving entire company > You're framing a question that doesn't need to be asked. The real question any company asks is where can deliver the most return to shareholders? And if the greatest revenue opportunity is in China, and if having a

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
Can you stay focused? Why are you talking about Reagan? Chinese capitalism started before Reagan went there. But you just don't want to talk about Barry do you? Do you think Beijing is a far superior place to start a business than anyplace in the US because of the infrastructure? Maybe United Hea

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread sam morris
1- Hongkong != Beijing 2- one Office != moving entire company You're evading the point again. As a large company would you rather set up your headquarters in Beijing because the infrastructure is far better than anyplace in the US? > Here are some people working with $130 billion of those "dup

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Munn
China has created a very clever compromise where people have a decent amount of personal freedom- as long as they don't criticize the government, engage in "non-sanctioned" religious activities, or protest in public. People protest all the time in China, but they get locked up for making trouble-

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is known is that Regan's > show-them-capitalism-and-they-will-change policy has failed. > The only thing capitalism guarantees is that you will maximize your profitabilityit in no way guarantees democracy or freedom

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Yes they have a booming economy and we buy their goods. That doesn't make > them a shining example for the world. Anyone who thinks they are has been > duped. By the Republicans? Because wasn't the big plan with China started by Regan? That by introducing capitalism the Chinese

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Anyone who thinks they are has been duped. > Here are some people working with $130 billion of those "dupes" money: --- The 1,200-attorney Weil, Gotshal & Manges law firm, whose private

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
I think you're confusing exploiting communist slave labor with a nation of freedom and laws by and for the people. While the Chinese are spending billions on railroads and highways they also don't care much about environmental impact or safety. Most highways are too expensive due to all the toll

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Vivec
Ok, well I think most economic analysts would disagree. China's infrastructure has been expanding and developing at a rate that far exceeds what the United States, and most of the 'Developed' countries in the world. The China Market is *the* next market for US goods and services, and there are man

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
Huh? That was a direct answer. Would you prefer? Definitely WRONG! >Nice way to dodge the question. > >2008/8/27 sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/21/cnchina121.xml >> >> Not where I want to set up shop >>

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Vivec
Nice way to dodge the question. 2008/8/27 sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/21/cnchina121.xml > > Not where I want to set up shop > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwar

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/21/cnchina121.xml Not where I want to set up shop >"Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to >us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business, >you're starting to think, 'B

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior > to > us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business, > you're starting to think, 'Beijing looks like a pretty good option.'" >

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Vivec
"Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business, you're starting to think, 'Beijing looks like a pretty good option.'" -BHOjr" Duped? Respond to that statement. Is he right or wrong? 2008/8/27

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
That's why Jr. is going to lose. He keeps dwelling on the America sux message. It doesn't and if he can tell us what he'll do besides make other countries like us I'll listen. What does he say? 1) Close the borders to trade to bring more jobs back to the US. I thought you where into globalization

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=133#FN45 The passage of the 14th Amendment, much like the 13th Amendment, was also along partisan lines. In the House, it passed 138 to 36. Of the 134 Republicans in the House, 128 (96%) voted to provide civil rights to former slaves; of the 3

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Beth Fleischer
> too truestill, a minority may be too much to swallow by itself as > evidenced by my mother-in-laws recent doctor visit. While in the > waiting room, there were some old farts talking about the upcoming > election. One said, "I've been a democrat for 47 years, but I'm not > gonna vot

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Erika wrote: > Wow. That is sad ... sounds like the area I'm currently living in ... > [DRAMA TO FOLLOW] That why I feel like yet again America stands at the crossroads of human progress and can choose to be a leader or to die. I am certain that 500 years from now this election will be a turni

RE: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Billy Cox
rreal that someone born before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor is running for President. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Hillary's speech If she had given speeches like that on th

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Erika L. Walker
Wow. That is sad ... sounds like the area I'm currently living in ... On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > too truestill, a minority may be too much to swallow by itself as > evidenced by my mother-in-laws recent doctor visit. While in the > waiti

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Maureen
That's wrong. Bedford Forrest was not among the 6 men who founded the klan. It was already established before he became aware of it. The political party and masonic affliation of the founding members is unknown. The only known affliation is that they were former Confederate soldiers. On Wed,

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
At least they're not voting for charisma. It's Obama Biden not Osama bin laden :) >there are people who wont vote for him because his NAME sounds too >much like OSAMA's > >yeah. we are in a world where people THAT stupid exist. ~

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
You're right, my bad. It wasn't the Democrat party it was the democrats in the party. Glad I cleared that up. >Wrong. Sometimes the lies are so egregious that I know you're just trolling. > > >> Well it is the party that created the KKK.

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Tony
really? http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/kkk.html h ok they didnt coin it... but a GRAND LEADER and his boys surely did make it up. tw On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also wrong. > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread William Bowen
+1 > Wrong. Sometimes the lies are so egregious that I know you're just trolling. >> Well it is the party that created the KKK. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
>I don't think the Democratic party spun off the KKK, but rather it was >a result of the Civil War. Essentially it was, and is, a modern >American insurgency pretty similar to Iraq. Based on and made up of angry Democrats >Another interesting point is that shows the evolution of the parties. > >

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Maureen
Also wrong. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the masons created the kkk > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:38 PM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well it is the party that created the KKK.

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Maureen
Wrong. Sometimes the lies are so egregious that I know you're just trolling. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:38 AM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well it is the party that created the KKK. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Tony
i just dont think so... i think the country is just truly sick of the shit and want change for the sake of change... i really do. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Maureen
If she had given speeches like that on the campaign trail indeed of resorting to a bunch of negative sound bites, perhaps he would have. Or perhaps she would be the one picking a VP. I don't know about anyone walking away with the election. I suspect it will be very close, and the repugs will tak

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Tony
-Original Message- >> From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Hillary's speech >> >> >> All I could think was "Why didn't Obama pick Hillary as VP

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Tony
the masons created the kkk -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:38 PM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well it is the party that created the KKK. > > >>too truestill, a minority may be too much

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Well it is the party that created the KKK. > I don't think the Democratic party spun off the KKK, but rather it was a result of the Civil War. Essentially it was, and is, a modern American insurgency pretty similar to Iraq. Another interesting point is that shows the evolution of

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread sam morris
Well it is the party that created the KKK. >too truestill, a minority may be too much to swallow by itself as >evidenced by my mother-in-laws recent doctor visit. While in the >waiting room, there were some old farts talking about the upcoming >election. One said, "I've been a democr

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
August 27, 2008 9:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Hillary's speech > > > All I could think was "Why didn't Obama pick Hillary as VP " > > Seems to me the Dems could of walked away with the election. > > On Wed

RE: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Billy Cox
. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Hillary's speech All I could think was "Why didn't Obama pick Hillary as VP " Seems to me the Dems could of walked away with the election. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > I would have reconsidered my Obama vote if he had selected HillaryI > doubt I would have been alone. I probably wouldn't have changed my mind, but > I would have given it serious thought. > > There is risk and reward in selecting anyone. > Same here. And as great as Hillary

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread G Money
I would have reconsidered my Obama vote if he had selected HillaryI doubt I would have been alone. I probably wouldn't have changed my mind, but I would have given it serious thought. There is risk and reward in selecting anyone. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Erika L. Walker
All I could think was "Why didn't Obama pick Hillary as VP " Seems to me the Dems could of walked away with the election. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, what did you think? > > ~

Re: Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the part she cites: > > > Most of all, I ran to stand up for all those who have been invisible > to their government for eight long years. Those are the reasons I ran > for president, and those are the reaso

Hillary's speech

2008-08-27 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
So, what did you think? My wife is a Hillary supporter and had already told me that she would be voting for McCain after Obama's nomination. The speech came on last night. My wife told me she was going to our room to watch something on Tivo since she didn't want to listen to Hillary talk