Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-18 Thread G Money
ebworks.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:13 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrog

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Dana
riginal Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > You just don't accept the primacy of the See of Peter because he would not > let the

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Duane
It was easier for Henry to divorce his wife then to keep beheading them :) -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? You just don't accept the primacy o

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread William Bowen
> And 14% no religion - making non-religious people the third largest > "religious group". +1 w00t! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Deploy Web

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Dana
/sstwebworks > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > actually I have been told pretty much that by fundamentalists.. Here, ev

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > > Let's rewrap the numbers, do the number of Roman Catholics outn

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Stewart
: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:13 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? actually I have been told pretty much that by fundamentalists.. Here, even. screaming at the top of your lungs if the head of the Southern > Baptist Church in America, or the head of the Methodist Chu

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
You just don't accept the primacy of the See of Peter because he would not let the King of England divorce.. >Yes we are :) > >-Original Message- >From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Is

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Dana
actually I have been told pretty much that by fundamentalists.. Here, even. screaming at the top of your lungs if the head of the Southern > Baptist Church in America, or the head of the Methodist Church, or if the > Dalai Lama said it. Why is it OK, for the Pope to say it? ~~

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
No, the Roman Catholics believe he the leader of our church. He is the direct successor to St. Peter, a very flawed human who was still chosen as the leader of the church by Christ. I don't remember anywhere in the Gospels where St. Peter was named the sole representative of God and Christ on

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
The 1066 schism was the result of a dispute over the primacy of the See of Peter (aka the Pope). The Orthodox Churches each had Sees, called Patriarches, who had an apostolic succession to other Apostles, but the See of Peter was to be primary (Upon this rock...) >Very good post. The Pope seem

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
152 >(703) 220-2835 > >http://www.sstwebworks.com >http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > >-Original Message- >From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:38 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
Every religion and sect says that. Live with it. >He leads a large community of faith, but what he, and you are failing to >realize is that saying "my faith is better than your faith, and if you don't >convert to Catholicism you're going to burn" is divisive, it only serves to >alienate and burn

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Stewart
s chosen to burn them. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > finally, there is no "wierd devotion" to the Pope. He is our human leader But don't RCs consider him God's sole and unique representative on Earth? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Let's rewrap the numbers, do the number of Roman Catholics outnumber > all other religions combined? I doubt it. Wouldn't seem like a pretty bad > idea to alienate every other person of faith on the planet that's not > catholic? In the US, 24% of the population is listed as Catholic with 16.4%

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread G Money
You mean every other person of faith who believes that THEY belong to the "one true church"? What's the difference? On 7/17/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's rewrap the numbers, do the number of Roman Catholics outnumber all > other religions combined? I doubt it. Wouldn't se

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread G Money
Very good post. The Pope seems to be such a point of contention between Catholics and others (wasn't the Pope at the center of the original schism in 1066?). But if he was better understood, at least as his role within the church, many of those contentions could be dismissed me thinks. For instanc

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Stewart
Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:07 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? M

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
But how does that negate the fact he is the leader of a city state? Why do other "world leaders" continue to meet with the Pope? If his opinions only effect the few you suggest, why do you care? Obviously his opinion on this was important enough to you for you to comment. >He's not a world l

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
When was the last time that happened? I hasn't been in my lifetime. As for the men, I agree. The current Pope is playing a little too much with the Vatican II reforms. I will also point out that Pope John Paul II made much the same statements during his first year as Pope. He followed them w

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread G Money
7241 Jillspring Ct. > Springfield, Va. 22152 > (703) 220-2835 > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:06 AM > To: CF-Community > Subje

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Stewart
s 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:06 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really thi

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Stewart
Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pop

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
He is a world leader. He is the leader of an independant city state, the Vatican. That is in addition to being the Pope. To state otherwise shows either contempt or ignorance. IIRC, the Vatican is not a UN member and, therefore, is not subject to any UN oversight. If the Pope wanted, he cou

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread G Money
You want arrogance, wait until the Pope speaks "ex cathedra".then he's infallible. I like Catholics, but their weird devotion to the Pope is...well...puzzling. That being said, JP 2 was a saint of a man...just phenomenal. Benny The 16th isn't off to a very rousing start imho. On 7/17/07, Russ

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
And just why is it personal arrogance to restate a 1700 year old church position? > It is also arrogant. Just because it is faith, does not change the > arrogance part. > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-16 Thread Russel Madere
STWebworks >7241 Jillspring Ct. >Springfield, Va. 22152 >(703) 220-2835 > >http://www.sstwebworks.com >http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > >-Original Message- >From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:22 PM >T

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-12 Thread Dana
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Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

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Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-12 Thread Dana
? believe in getting your sinning On 7/11/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i was always raised [not catholic mind you] > never to take communion if there was any thing that you have not first > resolved with the creator. > > thats why i never ever would go to church the first sunday of

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-12 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
ane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > Yes we are :) > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM >

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
i was always raised [not catholic mind you] never to take communion if there was any thing that you have not first resolved with the creator. thats why i never ever would go to church the first sunday of the month. but thats just me. ~~

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread G Money
That's an awful story CHH, and I can't believe your Mom had to go through that. But it's anecdotal, and I don't think it is representative of the majority of Catholic parishes/priests. This is the first time i've EVER heard of that happening, actually. Every religion has it's fringes, it's freaks,

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread Dana
yes, you are not supposed to receive communion unless you are both Catholic and in a state of grace. I have never heard of having to prove these things. But I suppose it's possible! Seems overly controlling to me. But then so does much of Church teaching. On 7/10/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
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RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
umphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:29 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > well, no, they don't ask for your credentials before you take > communion. Or at least they didn't use to. I'll respond to both your

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-11 Thread Duane
I know, I know people that have been refused communion in a Roman Catholic church before. Duane -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > I just

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Maureen
to quote from the article: "Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.." Also known as the Sacred Congregation of the Universal Inquisition. Of course he's that arrogant. He's the Grand Inquisitor. And God said: I will give you truth and

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> well, no, they don't ask for your credentials before you take > communion. Or at least they didn't use to. I'll respond to both your post and Eric's with the story of my own mother who is a devout Catholic. When she came to visit me the first time and went to Mass at our local church she was re

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
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Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
well, no, they don't ask for your credentials before you take communion. Or at least they didn't use to. Dana On 7/10/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just re-read your post and Duane's and had a light bulb moment. The > > word catholic != Catholic. > > In the Apostle's Cr

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I just re-read your post and Duane's and had a light bulb moment. The > word catholic != Catholic. In the Apostle's Creed, "catholic" (little c) is a translation for "universal". Trust me Duane, if you tried to take communion in a Roman Catholic church where the priest didn't know you, there i

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
I just re-read your post and Duane's and had a light bulb moment. The word catholic != Catholic. http://www.aarweb.org/syllabus/syllabi/r/robbins/1JM8Q-PHIL203/ChristianTerms.html we're talking about good eats vs Ma's Good Eats. Dana On 7/10/07, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/10/0

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
church doesn't acknowledge the fact. > > Duane > > > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > Did

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Duane
Catholic church doesn’t acknowledge the fact. Duane -Original Message- From: Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:39 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? Did you bother to read the article, they specifically

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Rick Root
On 7/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So they share the same "If you don't believe exactly like we do, you're > going to hell" mantra with the extreme Christian right wingers. That seems pretty standard for religion, don't you think? Heck, even in our United Methodist Church, w

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
'll take the word of my priest over the Pope any day of the week. > > Duane > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? >

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Casey Dougall
He can say what he wants but, there were Pagans before Christianity and catholicism stepped in... Everyone believed in Christianity in Rome before Catholicism stepped in so wtf... this belongs up there in the stupid column. I don't hold a religious preference. Before earth were many other planets

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Duane
AIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? perhaps Anglicans think they are Catholics. Although my mother was Anglican and she didn't. But ok. A Catholic however knows that you can't be Catholic if you don

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
]> wrote: > Yes we are :) > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > ah... Anglicans are not Catholics :) > > On 7/10/07,

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > Try this one > > http://tinyurl.com/37n83e This pope is an asshole. He&

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think another pickle in the middle will get you booted from most of them... On 7/10/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but who the hell needs another pickle in the middle.. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 &

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
i used to work for some Salisians. good group of guys. i just instructed midi/music/piano & DJ stuff too inner city kids. was a pretty sweet job. the kids really needed Male role models... never did get into catholicism. seems like a neat set of rules & such. but who the hell needs another pickle

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
I find this mildly amusing but not really anything to worry about. If someone is so uncertain about their own faith that this matters to them, they should be considering their own commitment to their faith. It's pretty common for religions to declare all other religions invalid. Faith is a ve

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Duane
Yes we are :) -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? ah... Anglicans are not Catholics :) On 7/10/07, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It may seem lik

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
2152 > > (703) 220-2835 > > > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:30 PM > > To: CF-Community >

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It may seem like a minor point, but not all Catholic sects believe the Pope > speaks for directly God. The Roman Catholic church may believe this but > Anglican Catholic church does not. In the Anglican Catholic church the > Monarchy of England and the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury are head of the >

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
the Monarchy of England > and the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury are head of the church, > neither of whom are presumed to speak for God. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:47 PM > To: CF-C

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread William Bowen
> It may seem like a minor point a minor quibble with your minor point: Anglicans are not Catholics. Probably closest to Catholic in practices, but Protestant nonetheless. , but not all Catholic sects believe the Pope -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would ju

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
| Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:02 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > Maybe > At least there's no

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:17 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > > But no Christian faith is more correct or incorrect than any other, > > the

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
> To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > But no Christian faith is more correct or incorrect than any > other, they all read from the same book. Some have more pomp > and pageantry but it's the same words. > > Pope Benedict has ma

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > umm, you don't understand t

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Duane
, neither of whom are presumed to speak for God. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? Again... just telling you what the belief is. In the Catholic Church, the

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
07 1:35 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > Uh huh.. > > So they share the same "If you don't believe exactly like we > do, you're going to hell" mantra with the extreme Christian > right wingers. >

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I was raised in a very liberal, loose church.. not as liberal and loose as > the Unitarians but still pretty liberal. (Christian Church, Disciples of > Christ). One of the CC/DOC's main tenants was that any man could minister to > any other. This explains it better than I can > http://www.discipl

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? Yep. How often can

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread William Bowen
> Scott, look at it like this, at least the guy isn't as bad as the Imams The first thing that popped into my head was an image of a guy getting hit on the head with a hammer and saying, " at least I'm not getting hit by the really big hammer that guy has over there!" :-\ -- will "If my life w

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C]
| Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > It's not arrogance, that is the fait

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
uh yes she was It's one of the mysteries ;) On 7/10/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > o and hey.. > didnt Joe & mary like kick it after jesus was born?? > i mean, didnt jesus have like 5 bothers/sisters. > > mary was not a virgin after the spirit got his ass out of there. > joseph stepe

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
lspring Ct. > Springfield, Va. 22152 > (703) 220-2835 > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Munez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
ott Stewart > > ColdFusion Developer > > > > SSTWebworks > > 7241 Jillspring Ct. > > Springfield, Va. 22152 > > (703) 220-2835 > > > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > > > > -Original Message- >

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
2007 3:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > But no Christian faith is more correct or incorrect than any other, they all > read from the same book. Some have more pomp and pageantry but > it's the same words. > > Pope Benedict has

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread William Bowen
> Christianity is Christianity, and if this is part of catholicism, I don't > want to to understand it something that about divisiveness, and well... > contempt for those that don't believe the way that they do. "contempt for those that don't believe the way that they do" is not limited to Catholi

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread William Bowen
> Dominus Ima fullas hit Vivec got all the dominoes! Dominic go friskem! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs.

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
o and hey.. didnt Joe & mary like kick it after jesus was born?? i mean, didnt jesus have like 5 bothers/sisters. mary was not a virgin after the spirit got his ass out of there. joseph steped in and planted one for the humans. i mean, he loved her deeply... ~

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Vivec
Yes brother. Of course. The devil has been known to inspire false confidence in his quest for souls. *solemn look* *holds up hand* Dominus Ima fullas hit On 7/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm very confident as to where my soul is going, and I haven't been to > church in year

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> But no Christian faith is more correct or incorrect than any other, they all > read from the same book. Some have more pomp and pageantry but > it's the same words. > > Pope Benedict has made a ridiculous statement that will do absolutely > nothing but create division... unless that's what he

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:56 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? I will pray for your soul that one day yo

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
orks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Dan Munez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? NO. Although I agree with his reasoning, I disagree with his conclus

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Jerry Johnson
It is also arrogant. Just because it is faith, does not change the arrogance part. (Of course, if you've ever looked at the list of titles held by a pope, arrogance is not a disqualification, if you know what I mean) On 7/10/07, Dan Munez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NO. Although I agree with hi

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Vivec
I will pray for your soul that one day you may find salvation brother. On 7/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christianity is Christianity, and if this is part of catholicism, I don't > want to to understand it something that about divisiveness, and well... > contempt for those tha

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
ssage- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? umm, you don't understand the Roman Catholic religion if you can say so. This is a tenant of Roman Catholic faith. The Pope merely resta

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dan Munez
NO. Although I agree with his reasoning, I disagree with his conclusions, as I am not Catholic. but he has every right to believe that everyone else is wrong. Thats the point of having a belief or an opinion. ~| Upgrade to A

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Vivec
umm, you don't understand the Roman Catholic religion if you can say so. This is a tenant of Roman Catholic faith. The Pope merely restated it. There was a softening of this position previously, primarily because of exactly what you mentioned : The divisions it caused etc. But the church never a

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
om/in/sstwebworks > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > It has always been an article of faith that the Catholic faith i

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
-Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? > > It has always been an article of faith that the Catholic faith is the > correct one. Like it or

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? It has always been an article of faith that the Catholic faith is the correct one. Like it or not -- it's not some new hair that Benedict got. It does sounds as though he

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Dana
It has always been an article of faith that the Catholic faith is the correct one. Like it or not -- it's not some new hair that Benedict got. It does sounds as though he will choose to emphasize this more than his predecessors though, and I agree that this is probably not going to be good for dial

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It's not arrogance, that is the faith. > There is one Church,and it is the Roman Catholic church, according to faith. Actually it is religion. What Benedict is doing is going back on Vatican II, which as Pope he can at least make an "executive statement" on. Doesn't do much for Church relation

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
there is 1 church all right. but its not in any brick or mortor on this plain of existance. fnck the pope and the evangs.. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIA

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
ield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant? It's not arrogance, t

Re: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Vivec
It's not arrogance, that is the faith. There is one Church,and it is the Roman Catholic church, according to faith. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http

RE: Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
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Is Pope Benedict really this arrogant?

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Stewart
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