Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > False alarm: > > http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/who-dressed-sar.html > > On 9/5/08, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TPIWWP > > > > Sam wrote: > > > Did you see how much of that rack was sho

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-05 Thread Sam
False alarm: http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/who-dressed-sar.html On 9/5/08, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TPIWWP > > Sam wrote: > > Did you see how much of that rack was showing last night? > > Very unprofessional, but very nice :) > > > > On 8/29/08, Ch

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-05 Thread Scott Stewart
TPIWWP Sam wrote: > Did you see how much of that rack was showing last night? > Very unprofessional, but very nice :) > > On 8/29/08, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack. >> > > ~~~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-05 Thread Sam
Did you see how much of that rack was showing last night? Very unprofessional, but very nice :) On 8/29/08, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 so

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-01 Thread Vivec
We as in the world. You do know that America isn't a planet unto itself...and the choice of leader of Russia, Britain, China, France etc. etc. has an influence and an impact globally right? Do you tend to think that far ahead? 2008/9/1 Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Whats this we shit, you move r

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-09-01 Thread Loathe
Whats this we shit, you move recently? Vivec wrote: > McCain strikes me as a cowboy. > > Shoot first, ask questions later. > > That's NOT what we need right now. > > 2008/8/30 Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> McCain: Yes – Not my ideal choice but far more qualified than all the above. > > ~~~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread denstar
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Adam Churvis wrote: > Couldn't have said it better myself. O.k., I agree that it was pretty well said *claps*, but what I wonder is... is it really "us"? Read stuff like this and tell me we're not getting some help: http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript_di

RE: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Adam Churvis
Couldn't have said it better myself. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > O ... remember I asked you to be honest? > > Would any of us - anyone in the US - look at this person and

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
mmm fer sure, but what do you know when you KNOW what's going on is illegal but people are thumbing their nose at you, hmm? It's not a matter of people not knowing their rights always. In my life their have been all sorts of times when I have just rolled my eyes and moved on because I did not have

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Robert Munn
I'm all for equality, like Bruce I want my daughter to have the same opportunities that the boys her age have. I think education about equal rights is a better vehicle for lasting change that the court system, but there is certainly a place for litigation in specific cases. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
perhaps in time. The issues are still there and still manifest with fairly young people; only way to overcome them is to keep on keeping on :) I was stuck by something John Lewis said in an interview the other day. (He is a civil rights activist who was present for the I have a dream speech.) Someo

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
You are right. There will be some instances where the courts will need to step in. Once that happens, then there will be a need to ensure that there are no negative consequences for women, which probably means more litigation. Eventually it will come to a point where if you are a woman it will

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
yeah let's show those women their place. I don't think that equal pay is the right issue to target in any attempt at litigation reform. Litigation reform may well be needed, but there are cases that are NOT going to be resolved without the courts and you know it. Brown vs Board of Education anyone?

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
Whatever. I am and always have been 110% for equality for women all around the spectrum. I am sure that there are other ways that we can ensure equality in pay for women other than making it easier for people to sue. That is part of the problem with the US right now, everyone is sue happy. If y

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
if it's ok for private enterprise to pay women less then I am not on board, sorry. That's what you call a bread and butter issue :) On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds to me like a typical Republican stance against government > interference in private e

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Robert Munn
Sounds to me like a typical Republican stance against government interference in private enterprise. I never the legislation, so I can't comment on its strengths and weaknesses. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Dana wrote: > "I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of > legisl

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
some of the women who are discriminated against in this country might get uppity and actually sue. We all know that the proper place fora woman is barefoot, pregnant and making 59 cents on the dollar. "I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what'

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
And what was his reason for voting against it? Dana wrote: > I think it's hysterical that the Republicans are concerned abotu > women's rights all of a sudden :) Is that supposed to be the new gay > marriage? People. McCain voted against women being able to sue for > equal pay. I don't for a minut

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Dana
I think it's hysterical that the Republicans are concerned abotu women's rights all of a sudden :) Is that supposed to be the new gay marriage? People. McCain voted against women being able to sue for equal pay. I don't for a minute believe that he comprehends my problems. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well I for one would use Hillary, Sarah or Condi as examples for my daughter on how you can be a mother, wife AND be successful in your career (well, Hillary and Sarah anyway, Condi is not married and does not have kids, but she is very successful none the less and should serve as an example an

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread denstar
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Beth wrote: > >> Its got nothing to do with her looks. Its got everything to do with that >> she's got absolutely no qualifications, no education and no experience. >> Shes lived her entire life in what many i

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Beth In Alaska
- Original Message - From: "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Beth wrote: > >> Its got

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Beth wrote: > Its got nothing to do with her looks. Its got everything to do with that > she's got absolutely no qualifications, no education and no experience. > Shes lived her entire life in what many in the state consider to be > crackerville small town except

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Beth In Alaska
- Original Message - From: "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Gruss wrote: >>> RoMunn w

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Gruss wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: > Would any of us - anyone in the US - look at this person and think > President? No. Why, because she's an attractive woman? Shame on you, I am dead serious. Would you be beating the crap out of Tim Pawlenty like this if he was th

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Vivec
McCain strikes me as a cowboy. Shoot first, ask questions later. That's NOT what we need right now. 2008/8/30 Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > McCain: Yes – Not my ideal choice but far more qualified than all the above. ~| Adobe® Col

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Sam
If you want to go that route lets. Ready to be president: Obama: No - Needs much more experience Biden: No – Will never make a good president Palin: No – At the rate learning a few year as VP would make her ready, maybe McCain: Yes – Not my ideal choice but far more qualified than all the above.

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Sam
That's Hot! :) On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Beth In Alaska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack. > > > Her breastmilk leaking rack? > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Sam
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no experience that's ever been proven to be of any value. So > discussing it has the same value: zero. You can't be past high school and and come out with a statement like that. Can't. I'm kind of embarrassed that a

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Actually, it shows that McCain is staying true to his maverick roots O ... remember I asked you to be honest? Would any of us - anyone in the US - look at this person and think President? No. There's no way in hell - if we're being honest - that you could say that if McCai

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Dana
That's about what I think. I find the nomination rather insulting actually. If I actually thought she's been selected as the best candidate -- but in a context that includes overt plays to disappointed Hillary supporters, we know that thsi is not the case. Dana > I find it hard to imagine that e

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Dana
That's not as strange as it seems. For example, one of the reasosn often cited for the French Revolution is that life had gotten somewhat better for non-aristocrats, and the bougeoisie, all the shop-keepers and tradesmen, were enough past survival issues to actually think abuot what would make the

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Maureen
The formal powers and role of the vice president are limited by the Constitution to becoming President in the event of the death or resignation of the President and acting as the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate. As President of the Senate, the Vice President has two primary duties: to cast a v

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-30 Thread Bruce Sorge
I would like to know what it is exactly that the VP does as well. Gruss Gott wrote: >> Sgt Sorge wrote: >> And look at some of her other issues in no particular order: >> >> > > How about the know-what-a-VP-does issue? Here's what she said 3 weeks ago: > > "But as for that VP talk all the ti

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
> Well, on the plus side: she has no national corps or lobbyists with their > hooks in her (yet), and she has already shown the ability to follow the > law > even when she personally disagrees (which would disqualify her from any > Bush > Administration position), and she has already shown that s

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Beth In Alaska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack. > > > Her breastmilk leaking rack? > meh.. i got 3 kids. ain't like i haven't tasted it before :) -- A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > And look at some of her other issues in no particular order: > > Palin is pro-life , pro-contraception, and a prominent > member of Feminists for Life .^ > <#cite_note-36> While running for Governor of Alaska, Palin supported > the open debate of c

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yeah, I did read that and wondered about the "consulted Alaska's attorney general"so I've been trying to figure out what that meant: I'm definitely not going to run that analysis of my browsing habits now :) http://seaqwa.com/blogs/qnews/archive/2008/08/29/for-sarah-palin-anti-gay-social-

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
For the VP role, i.e. the on-deck batter, she has slightly less government experience, and more executive experience, than Barack Obama, who is in the batter's box for the Democrats. If she is too in-experienced to be VP, then clearly he is too in-experienced to be President. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
> > i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack. Her breastmilk leaking rack? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
> And yet she has more executive experience than the ZERO Obama Biden have > combined. Like what? And how does it relate to international affairs? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
\ > to cast tie votes in the Senate? To represent the united states of america to the world. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
> Why would that be a problem? I am sure that she will have many capable > people on hand to assist, and she does have a husband who I am sure is > there 100%. If anything, she is proving that she can handle both her > professional career as well as motherhood. Just look at her approval > rating in

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
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Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
to cast tie votes in the Senate? On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Beth wrote: > and i'll add given that she has no experience except as mayor of a tiny town > of 8500 and less than two years of being governor of a tiny state, shes > completely unqualified

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Beth In Alaska
> ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it > sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, > doesn't she already have enough on her plate without being the VP of > the world superpower? and i'll add given that she has no experience except as mayor of a t

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
Still grasping at straws? On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Palin has nothing exceptional. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubl

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > And yet she has more executive experience than the ZERO Obama Biden have > combined. > > Your really don't want to go the experience road do you? There's no experience that's ever been proven to be of any value. So discussing it has the same value: zero. What has been proven is t

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
Actually, it shows that McCain is staying true to his maverick roots and actually wants to shake up Washington with a serious outsider pick, someone with a record as a reformer. Did you even see her speak, by the way? She's good, Biden better not underestimate her in their debate. More importantl

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
The transformation is complete. You've morphed into Dana. >:: rolls eyes :: If it helps you have a good weekend ... > >Be honest for just a small minute of your political life: > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most i

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > Bro, give it up, the Democrats are now officially in a world of sh!t. > > > > :: rolls eyes :: If it helps you have a good weekend ... > > Be honest for just a small minute of your political life: > > Pal

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'll see what happens in the debates. > I think it's intriguing that the second most powerful person in the US > may have been picked because of her effect on the Obama campaign. > i'd prefer to think it was because of her rack.

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
And yet she has more executive experience than the ZERO Obama Biden have combined. Your really don't want to go the experience road do you? What are Barry's accomplishments? Has he ever had a full time job? Besides Presidential candidate I mean. Is he a lawyer or a lecturer or a senator? It woul

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Bro, give it up, the Democrats are now officially in a world of sh!t. > :: rolls eyes :: If it helps you have a good weekend ... Be honest for just a small minute of your political life: Palin is a Hail Mary. Winning modern presidential elections has always been the same, bas

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Vivec
We'll see what happens in the debates. I think it's intriguing that the second most powerful person in the US may have been picked because of her effect on the Obama campaign. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most importa

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, on the plus side: she has no national corps or lobbyists with their hooks in her (yet), and she has already shown the ability to follow the law even when she personally disagrees (which would disqualify her from any Bush Administration position), and she has already shown that she will follow

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
Bro, give it up, the Democrats are now officially in a world of sh!t. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Gruss wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Cut-n-paste error? >> Here's the rest: >> >> We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, > > oh, yeah, that part really changes the

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Cut-n-paste error? > Here's the rest: > > We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, oh, yeah, that part really changes the ... well it modifies her ... ok, there's always the ... Let's focus on the talent. Ok. Let's see, she's got a degree in jo

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
>How about the know-what-a-VP-does issue? Here's what she said 3 weeks ago: > >"But as for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you I still can't >answer that question until somebody answers for me: 'What is it >exactly that the VP does everyday?'" Cut-n-paste error? Here's the rest: I'm used to

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sgt Sorge wrote: > And look at some of her other issues in no particular order: > How about the know-what-a-VP-does issue? Here's what she said 3 weeks ago: "But as for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me: 'What is it exactl

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
And look at some of her other issues in no particular order: Palin is pro-life , pro-contraception, and a prominent member of Feminists for Life .^ <#cite_note-36> While running for Governor of Alaska, Palin supported the open debate of creationism alongside evolution in schools; however, sh

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
But then there is the next paragraph, which I am sure you accidentally forgot to post. Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051003.html > > You gotta admit these dudes are hiLARious! > Oo! I've got McCain's Cabinet: * Pauly Shore for Sec Treasury! * Richard Simmons for Sec Defense! * Michael Savage for Sec Health! * Naomi Campbell for Sec State!

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > best. political. practical joke. ever. > Hey, you guys remember this one: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051003.html You gotta admit these dudes are hiLARious! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwar

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sgt Sorge wrote: > I can't tell you why she opposes gay marriage. I have never met her to > ask, but I am sure that the question will come up in the next couple of > months I wonder who McCain will really pick. I hope it's not Pawlenty - I like him and voted for him twice - because he lives jus

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread William Bowen
> doesn't sound like she's really for it nope... she's also a "teach the controversy" creationist... just keeps getting... uh... better. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
form the wikipedia article: Palin complied with an Alaskan state Supreme Court order and signed an implementation of same-sex benefits into law under protest, stating that legal options to avoid doing so had run out doesn't sound like she's really for it On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Bru

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
I can't tell you why she opposes gay marriage. I have never met her to ask, but I am sure that the question will come up in the next couple of months, perhaps even during her debate(s) with Biden. I do know that she is for same sex partners having benefits, and she even introduced state legisla

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
I lean more towards it, but I am still looking into it the creationism/evolution debate. I am in no way a bible thumbing evangelical. I am always open to new ideas. Bruce G Money wrote: > > You subscribe to the Creation story, just out of curiosity? > ~~~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread G Money
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I am a Christian, I don't subscribe to > everything in the bible. You subscribe to the Creation story, just out of curiosity? -- About the long forgotten dock side guarantee How there were no v-day heros in

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread sam morris
>As I said in another thread, this nomination speaks again to the GOP's >lack of respect for women. They are assuming that Hillary's supporters >will cut and run to *anyone* as long as there's a woman to vote for. >Positions on issues apparently have nothing to do with it. > >So they put up an Evan

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> McCain wrote: > distraction ... distraction ... Ah. Here we go: > > http://tinyurl.com/6o6bfg > Alright, alright, I admit it - he had me going. Very funny, very funny. That's good. An election needs a little levity. A little ice breaker. Gotta lighten things up. Palin. HA! Too funny. be

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > I mean ... wha ... holy ... I . . . uh, it's just ... uh > but what if ... I mean how ... a mayor ... as PRESIDENT?? :: breathing into bag :: distraction ... distraction ... Ah. Here we go: http://tinyurl.com/6o6bfg ~~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> z wrote: > ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it > sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, > doesn't she already have enough on her plate without being the VP of > the world superpower? > McCain, if elected, is 72! How about Palin as Presiden

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sgt Sorge wrote: > I have to agree and also I want to say that I am very excited about > this. 0 0 o ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doublecl

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Wow, total dark-horse pick, and there go the Hillary Democrats walking > out the door. > 0 0 0 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread William Bowen
> to me, it all boils down to cherry picking from the bible. Exactly. That's what it always boils down to. > this problem is in no way only specific to Sarah Palin. I find it hard to imagine that even the PUMAs would be so bitter as to vote for this ticket. As I said in another thread, this nom

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
to me, it all boils down to cherry picking from the bible. If you want to live according to that book, live that life. I'm fine with that. Don't make exceptions for yourself and then tell others that they have to live their lives according to this same book without exceptions. this prob

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Apparently Kelly wants an Asian or Hispanic in the race. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True but everything "shouldn't" always be so black and white. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwar

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Kelly
lol very funny! Jerry Johnson wrote: > Apparently Kelly wants an Asian or Hispanic in the race. > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> True but everything "shouldn't" always be so black and white. >> > > > ~~~

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yes, I think it would be great if they would venture out and shake things up tell me though, what does the bible say about a woman's role in the world. As far as I can tell, they're not supposed to be leaders. I highly disagree with that and am glad that they are in places of power. n

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Kelly
True but everything "shouldn't" always be so black and white. Maybe it's time for a "change" eh? :) I'm glad to see someone stepping out of the proverbial box. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > too true, but this is a "conservative" we're talking about. Ya know, > "Traditional Family Values", one f

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
too true, but this is a "conservative" we're talking about. Ya know, "Traditional Family Values", one father, one mother. Father provides for the family. Mother defers to father and manages the family. Sure, I'm talking in stereotypes, but this is the image that the conservative party pu

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
lmao! :) On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > OK, wait for it ... > > John McCain survived five and a half years of torture in Vietnamese > prisons, do you really think the Presidency will kill him? > > ZING! > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Zaphod wrote: >> yep, but you can't

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread J.J. Merrick
And a team of Nannies, maids and chefs :-) On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > uh? come on now. I believe the kid has 2 parents. > > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: >> ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it >> sounds; but given she's got a 4 month

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
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Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
OK, wait for it ... John McCain survived five and a half years of torture in Vietnamese prisons, do you really think the Presidency will kill him? ZING! On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Zaphod wrote: > yep, but you can't argue that there is a very good chance that she'll > take the reins at som

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
So what you are saying is that you want your politicians to just tow the party line? To stay with the status quo? To not venture out of party lines and do what is right rather than what is expected? Hmm. Can't say I agree with that. Bruce Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > yes, if the father were the

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yep, but you can't argue that there is a very good chance that she'll take the reins at some point in this administration. On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:14 AM, G Money wrote: > I bet being a governor is a more demanding job than being VP. -- You see I really have to tell you That it all gets so inten

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Kelly
Good! Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > It really goes against the whole religious conservative viewpoint of a > mom at home for her children though. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yes, if the father were the primary care giver...who knows, maybe in this situation it is. It really goes against the whole religious conservative viewpoint of a mom at home for her children though. On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Loathe wrote: > Would you be saying that if it were the father

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Kelly
uh? come on now. I believe the kid has 2 parents. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it > sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, > doesn't she already have enough on her plate without being the VP of > the world

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just look at her approval > rating in Alaska. She consistently hovers in the 80 to 90 percentile > range. Pretty impressive. She is surely a breath of fresh air for the > Republican party. > You're talking about a populati

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
Why would that be a problem? I am sure that she will have many capable people on hand to assist, and she does have a husband who I am sure is there 100%. If anything, she is proving that she can handle both her professional career as well as motherhood. Just look at her approval rating in Alask

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread G Money
I bet being a governor is a more demanding job than being VP. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it > sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, > doesn't she alread

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Loathe
Would you be saying that if it were the father and not the mother? Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it > sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, > doesn't she already have enough on her plate without being the VP

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
ok , I'm just gonna through this out there no matter how bad it sounds; but given she's got a 4 month old son with downs syndrome, doesn't she already have enough on her plate without being the VP of the world superpower? On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > I have to agree a

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
Sure, that will keep a lot of women away, regardless of anything else. This pick is not aimed at those voters. Instead, the pick is aimed squarely at the "God and Guns" moms in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida that Obama scorned during the primaries. If McCain peels away enough of those women to wi

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, as VP

2008-08-29 Thread Loathe
35 Jerry Johnson wrote: > Isn't she only 44? she isn't eligible, is she? (same requirements as pres, > age 45) > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> I wouldn't bet the farm on it, I think there's enough fundamental >> differences between democrats and

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