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> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
>
> The least I've seen people get the Pkg#2 for is around 22500 on PriusChat.
> I got mine down to 234
erent story here in Phoenix...
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Jeff
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From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
The least I've seen people get the Pkg#2 for is around 22500 on PriusC
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> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:33 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
>
> Jeff.
> how can i get package 2 for 21000?
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROT
grats!
>
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> Jeff
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> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
>
> ok..
> so i am probably going to get the base model.
> my v
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Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
Jeff.
how can i get package 2 for 21000?
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Is this a new one or used? All US models no
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> another dealer via the web for $990. I'll shoot you the details
> separately.
>
> Congrats!
>
> --
> Jeff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:46 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject:
y 03, 2008 7:46 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
ok..
so i am probably going to get the base model.
my vw is too unreliable.
any reason to upgrade to suspension & or rear camera?
21600 is still to expensive in my mind.
gonna test drive a fit & prius
ok..
so i am probably going to get the base model.
my vw is too unreliable.
any reason to upgrade to suspension & or rear camera?
21600 is still to expensive in my mind.
gonna test drive a fit & prius today
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
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> So I'm
> tBone wrote:
> Diesel is till a fuel made from oil no?
>
Diesel provides 2 benefits:
1.) Conservation. You can get 50mpg diesels that provide all the
power a consumer could want.
2.) Conversion. You can make diesel from many different type of oil
including bio-sources like seaweed, but also
Diesel is till a fuel made from oil no?
Gruss Gott wrote:
>> gMoney wrote:
>> That's just not true! I know my economics 101.consumption is NOT what it
>> is. Consumption changes, it rises and falls, it is one of the key natural
>> variables of the free market dynamic.
>>
>
> You're right o
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're right of course, but here's what I mean by that:
>
> Conservation can't help anything when you're conserving a finite
> resource. It just slows the end result.
>
> Much better to find a new solution BEFORE you run out.
> gMoney wrote:
> That's just not true! I know my economics 101.consumption is NOT what it
> is. Consumption changes, it rises and falls, it is one of the key natural
> variables of the free market dynamic.
>
You're right of course, but here's what I mean by that:
Conservation can't help a
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO! Economics 101: supply & demand.
>
> Consumption is what it is. We need energy and eventually supply and
> demand will stabilize; the only question is how much pain we'll endure
> during the transition.
That's just not
> gMoney wrote:
> I don't see how you say that conservation delays defining the root
> causeisn't over consumption one of the root causes
>
NO! Economics 101: supply & demand.
Consumption is what it is. We need energy and eventually supply and
demand will stabilize; the only question
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you're trying to solve the marketing problem of making Americans
> think that "conservation" is cool, then hybrids work. My problem
> there is that "conservation" doesn't solve shit - it just delays
> defining and solve th
> Jeff wrote:
> I know that Gruss has a love affair going with diesel
Well THAT's going a little far ...
But I do like diesel. Why? Because it depends on what problem you're
trying to solve.
If you're trying to solve the problem of US dependence on foreign
petroleum, then diesel is the fastest
I know that Gruss has a love affair going with diesel, but, this car isn't even
available yet in europe, let alone the US. And it will still suffer from the
US issues with diesel being a lot more expensive than regular gasoline thereby
limiting its adoption here. I think it will be great for e
> Zap wrote:
> yeah, but will we ever see it here?
Probably not ;-(
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yeah, but will we ever see it here? Europe has all the cool diesel cars
including the BMW 520D which gets about the same mileage as the Prius.we
get a model or two.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Zap wrote:
> > to sit in, the diesel engine would
> Zap wrote:
> to sit in, the diesel engine would just be burning fuel like any other
> vehicle, while in the hybrid, it doesn't.
>
Here's your answer:
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> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
>
>
>
>
> If you have a no
It's no accident that long-haul vehicles (18-wheelers, locomotives) run on
diesel.
-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later
If you have a no traff
60~65 depending on the speed limit. Most of my "gains" come from
traffic though. Just straight out highway (no traffic) driving will
net me in the upper 40's to low 50's. Once I hit a little bit of
traffic, my mileage starts to skyrocket because of the electric system
kicking in.
If you
what speed are you driving on the highway?
i am tempted.
i do a 100 rt a day as well.
but am trying to figure out how to get a diesel smart car from canada...
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Chevy truck was the same way I think they err on the h
My Chevy truck was the same way I think they err on the high side
to make you feel better.
On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>> Zap wrote:
>> tank 1: 53.3 Shown - 50.33 calculated
>> tank 2: 53.4 shown - 49.04 calculated
>> tank 3: 57.7 shown - 54.25 calculated
>>
>
> You can
> Zap wrote:
> tank 1: 53.3 Shown - 50.33 calculated
> tank 2: 53.4 shown - 49.04 calculated
> tank 3: 57.7 shown - 54.25 calculated
>
You can't argue with the savings, but I do wonder about the shown
values. I've run the same calculations with my friend's Prius and the
differential is greater
So I'm already on my third tank in roughly 20 days. 100 mile round
trips to work will do that to you.
If you're curious, here's the scoop:
tank 1: 53.3 Shown - 50.33 calculated
tank 2: 53.4 shown - 49.04 calculated
tank 3: 57.7 shown - 54.25 calculated
Definitely a gas savings from my 22mpg t
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