Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > Where would China be if we stopped buying thier stuff? > Where would we be? Economically devastated. This genie was let out of the bottle 80 years ago and we can adapt or die; it's simple economic evolution. But the answer to your question is easy: China would slow down their bl

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread William Bowen
> Where would China be if we stopped buying thier stuff? uh... same place *we'd* be if they called their loans? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~|

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Dana
CTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:59 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up > > > > it isn't the case. Part of the citizenship process is a period when > > you CANNOT leave the country. For whatever reason. > >

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
I'm not advocating a neutral trade balance, I'm advocating NO TRADE. Screw the rest of the world. I'm advocating 100% isolationism. Screw the Monroe Doctrine, Screw anything international. Anyway, this won't work for a state as it lacks the appropriate geographic expanse for isolationism to

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> JimmyD wrote: > He's still employed by the Indian company, but he has a long-term > (essentially permanent) contract with our group here. > Sounds like what happened is that he let his stamp lapse and didn't apply for an extension in enough time before the stamp expired. It's too bad, and the s

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> JimmyD wrote: > To me it seems simple: if you legally have a job (and can prove it) then you > should be able to come and go as you please. > Yeah, I totally agree. And, technically, this is the case assuming that one keeps up with their Visa stamp. If they don't, then they can work legally wh

RE: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:59 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up > > it isn't the case. Part of the citizenship process is a period when > you CANNOT le

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Dana
July 17, 2007 10:43 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up > > > > > JimmyD wrote: > > > However his visa does not allow him to return to India for the > > funeral. > > > > Visa stamps are good for 3 years an

RE: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:43 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up > > > JimmyD wrote: > > However his visa does not allow him to return to Indi

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > except for the fact that this whole country was built on > immigration... when did all the xenophobic fncktards forget that? > Try an experiment: lock down the border of, say, Louisana: no cross border workers, only a neutral trade balance, etc. Lock that State down. Where do y

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> JimmyD wrote: > However his visa does not allow him to return to India for the funeral. Visa stamps are good for 3 years and visa usually 6. If your stamp is expired, but you have a valid visa, you can legally work in the USA but you can't get back in without getting that stamp extension (which

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread William Bowen
except for the fact that this whole country was built on immigration... when did all the xenophobic fncktards forget that? you really think life in the US would be better if we closed off the borders and we became like the Russians or the Germans or the French at various times in their histories.

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-17 Thread Russel Madere
Personally I say to just lock down the borders, recall all soldiers overseas, disband the military (or make it the border patrol), abolish the IRS, stop trading with everyone, let gas go to $10 a gallon and let the rest of the world burn while we feed ourselves. There is no need for any immigra

Re: Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-16 Thread Dinner
I know I rant a a lot (just wait for my sobriety checkpoint tirade>:)- Anyways, this is another of my pet peeves. Well, it ties with the rest pretty good, actually. This is how we're "safer" from terrorists. By becoming whatever-phobes. It is just so incredibly frustrating. The whole deal. I

Our Immigration System is Screwed Up

2007-07-16 Thread Jim Davis
I work, as I'm sure some of you do as well, in a large enterprise. We've been doing a lot of outsourcing over the past few years, almost exclusively to a single company in India. Anyway, here's the situation: one of our on-shore contractors recently lost his mother. She died suddenly, unexpec