Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
> Larry, > > You might have, but I can tell you this. I sat there and saw this > manual as you call it, with the test that comes along with it. Let me reach across my desk and get my copy of it. Yep its called the DSM-IVR. Published in 2002 by the American Psychiatric Publishers Nope no tests

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>Actually Larry you are wrong again. No I'm not: http://www.amazon.com/Diagnostic-Statistical-Disorders-DSM-IV-TR-Revision/dp/0890420254/sr=8-1/qid=1166757478/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1471696-2628911?ie=UTF8&s=books and for the link challenged http://www.antiwrap.com/?1109 I think you are confused

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Scott
egeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 12:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Actually Larry you are wrong again. > >The

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>Actually Larry you are wrong again. > >The manual as you put it is for specially trained people in that area, and >it is up to those people from the results of the test, to diagnose and >identify what is wrong with someone. I know, I took 2 semesters on the DSM-IV during grad school. I am an ABD,

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>Dana, > >Yes it is a test, pencil & paper, IQ and verbal as well as a couple of other >things. No its not. Its a description system. There is a wide leeway on the diagnoses involved - glad I took that course on the DSM-IV in grad school, it turned out to be more on how to get insurance to pay

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Scott
- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 11:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Well first of all, you need to see one who specialise in that field to be >tested. And the test is called DSM-IVR, which is then used to treat yo

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Andrew Scott
Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 11:35 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) References please? While I am not an expert, I have not heard of stuff that reliably links Asperger'

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>Well first of all, you need to see one who specialise in that field to be >tested. And the test is called DSM-IVR, which is then used to treat you. Now >this test identifies not that you have one or the other, but identifies >everything that is needed to cure ones problem. Remember what the DSM s

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Larry Lyons
hone: +613 8676 4223 >Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > >-Original Message- >From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > >From what I understand Asperger's is n

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Dana
::snort:: ok, I have stuff to do On 12/21/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so what it all boils down to is that you really weren't into > bi-ology.at the time, you were just bi-curious. ~| Create robust ente

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
hool sometimes. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > > > > &

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread G Money
; > Man that sounds like fun. > > I really wish I had gone to school sometimes. > > > -Original Message- > > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread loathe
Man that sounds like fun. I really wish I had gone to school sometimes. > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > I took a programming

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-21 Thread G Money
I took a programming class second semester my freshman yearmostly just because I was curious. My intended major was biology. Our teacher taught us all about the constructs of the C++ language. She built up a library of the tools from day one, then we practically applied them. I learned so much

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Scott
Dana, Yes it is a test, pencil & paper, IQ and verbal as well as a couple of other things. Sounds like your school system is the same as ours. Asperger is also know as higher functioning Autism, and the person I know as a bit of ADHD, asperger and Autistic behaviour so he is being treated for 3 c

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Dana
I don't have any personal experience on Asperger's or autism, though I've seen it discussed on some of the special-ed lists. That may be the difference here. So if I understand you, you are saying that this is an actual test? Paper and pencil, or a set of criteria? As for people being undiagnosed,

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Scott
Hmmm, Yes the DSM-IVR does more than that. For example, what makes asperger different to Autism is that these people are still very coherent the difference is that these people have a different outset than a normal person and the only way to diagnose these conditions and treat them is with the DS

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Dana
; > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 1:15 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > Interesting. What test are we talking about? Cause I have never heard > of this. Not say

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Scott
Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 1:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) Interesting. What test are we talking

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Dana
sion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Educati

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Scott
Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >From what I understand Asperger'

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Dana
] > Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > >Sure no problem? what are we searching for? > > > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > ADHD and related terms, car

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>You might also want to throw in asperger's syndrome as well, it is a >sometimes labelled as higher functioning autism but is part of the >ADD/ADHD/AS and autism spectrum. > > > >Andrew Scott >Senior Coldfusion Developer >Aegeon Pty. Ltd. >www.aegeon.com.au >Phone: +613 8676 4223 >Mobile: 0404 998

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Scott
8 273 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Sure no problem? what are we searching for? > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >&g

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Sure no problem? what are we searching for? > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ADHD and related terms, careers, web development etc., but not things like counseling, etc. I'll have to figure it out more later, too tired to think properly about it now. I'll be very glad w

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Weegs wrote: > ill smoke those fags on a computer > and make mad cash in the meantime. > You'll smoke their what, where? Anyway, colleges are famous for NOT teaching programming. CS courses teach "science" not how to program. They'll tell you they're not a trade school, they're a college. Th

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Sam
Sure no problemÂ… what are we searching for? On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Time for a scholar.google.com search. > > Just did my first swipe at the search. Too many items came back, anyone want > to help me with g

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily >multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily >multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time for a scholar.google.com search. Just did my first swipe at the search. Too many items came back, anyone want to help me with getting the search terms right to make it a more manageable heap? thx, larry ~

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Mild ADHD is actually beneficial because it allows someone to easily >multitask, when it becomes severe like in my case it's debilitating. >Imagine someone has a tv remote control hooked up to your brain, and >they're constantly changing channels. >Multitaksing redily lends itself to programmin

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> remember this... > > http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index. > cfm?mode=entry&entry=5A7CD313-E081-293E-2A18B3AEBE83DEDD > > followed by the fucknut and his comments up with this... > > http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index. > cfm?mode=entry&entry=5F3EA39E-E081-293E-2ADF130579EF4

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
y > > > > >Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >12/20/2006 01:56 PM >Please respond to cf-community > > >To: CF-Community > cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) >Subject:Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > >

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Wonder why (if it's true)? > >Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a >programmer? > >Or is it just a big coincidence? > >On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> First off I'm not really sure if there's a relationship. I've just noticed that it seems

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Loathe
Thats what I'm sayin T-man, GED was Good to me :) > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > > i resemble that comment raymundo! &g

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) No, they are still saying it's a pre-existing condition and refuse to pay for any treatment, said I should go to the VA. VA says I make too much money, which I guess means I'm not a combat vet anym

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
nity cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) remember this... http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=5A7CD313-E081-293E-2A18B3AEBE83DEDD followed by the fucknut and his comments u

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) i resemble that comment raymundo! fuckin jerk. :) hahhaha... adhd? haha... i wish. 800 on my sat's 1.6 gpa in high school fuck college ill smoke those fags on a computer and make mad

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
on quick. Like a virus! > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > > Im

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I think were up to about 5 worlds now! I'm gonna have to bone up on string theory to keep track of this group anymore. On 12/20/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This two world shit is hard to follow, maybe I have ADHD too. > > On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yah, creep eh? wh

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Tony
Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around > > though, > > you're catching on quick. Like a virus! > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: D F [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM > >

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Tony
> I think that title is Tony's. Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around though, > you're catching on quick. Like a virus! > > > -Original Message- > > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM > &g

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Sam
This two world shit is hard to follow, maybe I have ADHD too. On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yah, creep eh? what are you then the fuckin HOF clown? > > > > >You are blind to the terrorists > > > >Creep. > > > >*jerks off in his tighty whiteys* > > > >Merry Christmas. Holy Shit.

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Loathe
doctor soon. It's a PITA, but the wifey is taking good care of me. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:59 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > > speaking o

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Ray Champagne
I think that title is Tony's. Or possibly Zaphod's. Stick around though, you're catching on quick. Like a virus! > -Original Message- > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject:

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread D F
Yah, creep eh? what are you then the fuckin HOF clown? >You are blind to the terrorists > >Creep. > >*jerks off in his tighty whiteys* > >Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol? > >On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
art/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) Now add PTSD and all that goes with it, and you have my normal day :) Lots of fun. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:34 PM > To

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
ROFLMAO!!! 11 ##| -Original Message- ##| From: Ray Champagne ##| ##| Don't go getting all executivesontheweb on us, Ian. :) ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread loathe
Now add PTSD and all that goes with it, and you have my normal day :) Lots of fun. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > >

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Ray Champagne
That's the spirit! Put your back into it! > -Original Message- > From: D F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > Importance: High > > BLAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
OK, now you have my attention... On 12/20/06, D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > TITS!!! > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread D F
BLAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAA TITS!!! >You are blind to the terrorists > >Creep. > >*jerks off in his tighty whiteys* > >Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol? > >On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ~~

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
D]> 12/20/2006 03:19 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) Wonder why (if it's true)? Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to beco

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread loathe
Excellent. > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > You are blind to the terrorists > > Creep. > > *jerks off

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread loathe
Me 3 > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > >Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :) > > > >Scott A.

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread G Money
You are blind to the terrorists Creep. *jerks off in his tighty whiteys* Merry Christmas. Holy Shit. Where's the tylenol? On 12/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't go getting all executivesontheweb on us, Ian. :) > > > > > > Is there anything more ADHD then a computer

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Ray Champagne
Don't go getting all executivesontheweb on us, Ian. :) > > Is there anything more ADHD then a computer? Just a silly suggestion :-) > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a programmer? Is there anything more ADHD then a computer? Just a silly suggestion :-) -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread G Money
Wonder why (if it's true)? Code jockeying cause ADHD, or ADHD make someone more prone to become a programmer? Or is it just a big coincidence? On 12/20/06, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :) > > > >Scott A. Stewart > >REAC/PASS-IT > >(202)-475-8

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
it. sas Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/20/2006 01:56 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Yeah

Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Yeah and i'm ADHD...just like Einstein :) > >Scott A. Stewart >REAC/PASS-IT >(202)-475-8875 I told my dissertation committee to take a flying f**k and walked. Best move I ever made. Here's an interesting thought, I have no data to back it up, but I'm willing to bet that there are proportionat

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) Just like Einstein :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:55 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > Hey, I barely graduated h

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread loathe
Just like Einstein :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:55 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > Hey, I barely graduated high school... > > Scott A. St

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
Hey, I barely graduated high school... Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 "loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/20/2006 01:28 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: RE

RE: Education (Was: Pet Peeve)

2006-12-20 Thread loathe
I agree, now if I could get the rest of the industry to agree I'd be set :) > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) > > > tBone wrote: > > Why do you assume we're