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(sorry, this is a huge thread and I'm wading through it here and there, so
apologies if this has been asked and answered)
>Just so you know, I have my own ethical questions about where I work and
>what I do. I am a sellout, and
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This is an interesting question. Why shouldn't someone work for next to
nothing if they are willing to?
A minimum wage in America is a 20th century idea, and one that was
sorely fought for and won. The essential logic behind it is that society
ben
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I'm a contractor. I took a tech position at fair market value. I do not
work FOR the government.
That being said, the department of state is the oldest department in the
executive bran
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Sent: 07 January 2004 21:09
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Simon -
I think the argument you were pursuing was that there is a moral right
to expect certain conditions to exist, and that
January 07, 2004 2:54 PM
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> Well I think the most noticeable thing is that the congress no longer
> bothers to declare war, hell the executive branch doesn't really even
check
> with congress anymore, and that is a p
:
: I have a slightly different take on this.
:
: I think we should raise minimum wage to be a livable wage (BARELY), and get
: american people training and give them jobs. They will repay the money the
: program cost by paying taxes and by not sucking the social services system.
: Employers hirin
the secret that makes America great.
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you left out "the pursuit of happiness". I'm not trying to give you a
hard
time
d, KY 41101
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, and the median is the most revealing figure when discussing
corporate salaries. At
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Yes, and the median is the most revealing figure when discussing
corporate salaries. At least, it is the most meani
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I'm curious, how
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Sent: 07 January 2004 18:36
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Simon -
I am talking about the reality of
: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:49 PM
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The mode is the frequently occurring value in a set. The median is the
middle value of the set when they are ordered by rank.
Stephen E. Schuster
PeopleSoft Administrator
2000 Ashland Drive
Ashland, KY 41101
Office
Yeah, but if I couldn't send her there...
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I will remind you that I know where your kid goes to school :)
It's not any
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Average is the total salaries paid divided by the total number of
employees.
What is the median salaray - the one where 50% make more and 50% make
less?
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I wouldn't call it bad schools so much as people unwilling to learn. I
went to school in Rehoboth beach Delaware too the schools there were
fine. I went to school in Salisbury for a couple years, and also in
Baltimore. And then as well in Kent island.
There were the classes I liked and then there
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In the state of Washington the average MS salary is :
Microsoft employees earn an average of $102,980 per year (without stock
options, with stock options it is over 200k)
There are 26,000 Microsoft employees in Washington State ALONE
That was for 2002. I am not sure
esday, January 07, 2004 3:19 PM
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Well, what concerns me is your use of the word 'free' here.
I mean, do you mean free as in without cost or do you mean free as in
absent of restriction on liberties. We have the latter with big
government but
Ignore previous post just follow this link:
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/131739
So it looks like the average is 102,980 w/o stock options
Stephen E. Schuster
PeopleSoft Administrator
2000 Ashland Drive
Ashland, KY 41101
Office Phone 606.920.7447
Cell Phone 606.8
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and where do they
exceed their authority?
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:57 PM
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Article 10: The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohib
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From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:19 PM
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40-60K a year is not considered a low wage in comparison to minimum wage.
That is the average. Though I have rea
, 2004 3:19 PM
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40-60K a year is not considered a low wage in comparison to minimum
wage.
That is the average. Though I have read the book and it is good.
Stephen E. Schuster
PeopleSoft Administrator
2000 Ashland Drive
Ashland, KY 41101
Office Phone
Was there another public school in the area? When I was in MD and in FL
it was this way. You goto the school in the district you live. If you
don't like it you move. I know tons of people who had their parents
drive them to work and use fake addresses to goto other schools but I
can't stand that. I
40-60K a year is not considered a low wage in comparison to minimum wage.
That is the average. Though I have read the book and it is good.
Stephen E. Schuster
PeopleSoft Administrator
2000 Ashland Drive
Ashland, KY 41101
Office Phone 606.920.7447
Cell Phone 606.831.4590
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ess of whether or
not I can afford it. Is that so wrong?
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From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Education was the subject at hand. Would you like me to rant about the
DoD
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:04 PM
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It matters who runs education
3:00 PM
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Do you mind explaining this to me? Perhaps I am not getting it, but it
seems we do well to pay to have services in some cases regardless of
whether or not we use them.
Certainly you are not arguing the welfare system is corrupt, it
represen
: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:43 PM
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I don't care who runs it - I just said it should be FREELY available. I
also said that it would put a huge strain on the govt to privatize them
all... that's because of the cost of offering anyone
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is
nowhere near as prone to failure as the hordes of corporate-giveaway
projects sponsored by the DOD each year.
M
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:51 PM
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It is not now FREELY
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:53 PM
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Article [X.] The power
unity
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It all comes back to what Alexis d'Tocqueville said:
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe
the people with their own money."
That's where we are today. Funny thing that he called it several
hundred
years
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:49 PM
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I don't care who runs it - I just said it should be FREELY available. I
also said that it would put a huge strain on the govt to privatize them
all... that
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An excellent description of what a constitution, however as you know we
differ greatly on our interpretation, specifically the weight that the
tenth
amendment should hold. I think, and histori
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:45 PM
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Not so. English common law is the ethical foundation of our l
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> I'm a contractor. I
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It is the philosophical and ethical foundation for our laws. It is more
important than the laws themselves.
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>but I think that every citizen who pays taxes has a right to expect the
government to protect them from any c
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It is the philosophical and ethical foundation for our laws. It is more
important than the laws themselves.
-Kevin
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Subject: Re: More Breaking News
I did a little sample here at the office (10 people in this Dept.), so
far all 10 said if they had the choice they would be millionaires.
marlon
Schuster, Steven wrote:
>Honestly, would you rather your child go to public or private school?
>
>I did
>How about paying men more than women? Is that acceptable as a
>determiniation between the employer and the employee?
Joke from a UK sitcom with a chauvanist bartender as the boss
"Of course I believe in paying women as much as men - they just have to
put in the extra hours"
I'll get my coat...
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That's the Declaration of Independence. It has no legal signifigance nor
is it a legitimate source of authority. At best, it is a historical
document.
Look at the Bill of Rights is you want to see what yo
ne 606.831.4590
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>Heald, Tim wrote:
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>>Also don't get me wrong, I didn't
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"WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
> M
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> "WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
> equal,
>
I am not supposed to work more than 40 hours a week. When I feel the need
to I simply write 8 on my sheet and do what I need to do. This is basically
volunteer work or a donation of my time. It's what it takes to do a job
right.
--
Timothy Heald
Web Portfolio Manager
Overseas Security Advis
g they are not willing to
personally stand up for. Conversely, they get what other people impose
on them when they fail to act.
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you say you
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From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:38 PM
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So...
Stephen E. Schuster
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Honestly, would you rather your child go to public or private school?
I did a little sample here at the office (15 people in this Dept.), so far
all 15 said if they had the choice they would send them to
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"WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that
among these are Life, Liberty and the
Teachers at private schools are paid even less than those at public
schools.
If youre a good teacher, where you gonna go?
Point is, in a good neighborhood, theres no guarantee that a private school
would be any better than a public one!
I realize that 'good neighborhood' qualification is
Raymond Camden wrote:
>
>I never said we should allow children to work. In all the examples I gave, I
>mentioned life style choices and adults. I certainly do not want to see the
>return of child labor. Also, I'm not against minimum wage either. I was
>speaking specifically to your example as I fe
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> Simon -
>
> I am talking about the reality of the situation, you are dealing with
> ideal notions.
>
> The g
being
good or bad. It was simply an issue of youthful arrogance and apathy.
-Kevin
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o pay someone? What's next, they gonna tell you and I how
much to pay our kids for allowance?
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>If the same company offers 4.95 per ho
ese
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>Subjec
So...
Stephen E. Schuster
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Office Phone 606.920.7447
Cell Phone 606.831.4590
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nuary 07, 2004 6:03 AM
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If a company is willing to pay their CEO that much, then someone will take
the job.
If the same company offers 4.95 per hour for shovelling shit, and no one
wants to do it then they have to raise the wage, right? Now if someone say
willing to
personally stand up for. Conversely, they get what other people impose
on them when they fail to act.
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>
>
> I'm a contractor. I took a tech position at fair market value. I do
not
> work FOR the government.
>
>
Nah badly run schools suck whether gov't run or not.
I was fortune to goto a public school that was EXCELLENT. And there are
excellent public schools.
There's more to a child's hatred for learning then simple bureaucracy
--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
eDiets.com, Inc.
(OTCBB: EDET)
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>People rise to the level of their abilities. Why is it my burden to support
>them in a manner better than they can provide for themselves?
Because some people's lack of ability prevent them from supporting themselves.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:02 AM
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I think two main things have led us through inflation and rising costs.
1. Coming off of the gold standard, thanx Nixon.
2. Minimum wage.
Why in a free market economy should the government
programs except ones that help people get back on their feet.
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>We have 10.5 million illegal workers in the United States right now," said
US Chambe
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Try an experiment. Start calling up private schools in
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I'm not a U.S. H
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>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Your question is being disingenuous. Are the schools equal in all aspects,
>do they take all children
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Your question is being disingenuous. Are the schools equal in all aspects,
do they take all children, those with behavior /emotional problems, those
with learning disabilities, and what about
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 Januar
> In both of those cases, the people both have a sufficient
> amount of money to allow them to freely choose their lifestyle.
>
> Abject poverty removes freedom to choose. It's not a choice
> of not buying the more expensive car or eating at home. It's
> a choice of eating or dying, and eating
, January 07, 2004 12:01 PM
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I think Erika had a picture of that just recently.
> As for cats and dogs... when that happens I'll be looking for the
weather
> report in hell. ;)
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> > Say you're applying for a job. You have a family of 5 and
> > you give the minimum figure that your family can subsi
I think Erika had a picture of that just recently.
Oh, and there's snow here.
-Kevin
> As for cats and dogs... when that happens I'll be looking for the weather
> report in hell. ;)
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From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:01 AM
To: CF-Community
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Honestly, would you rather your
Ohh, Cmon, let the free market system decided everything. Who needs child
labor laws anyway!
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:27 AM
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Tim, you're talking about pe
sts. That dialogue promises to be a very sad one,
given the shaky citizenship status on the part of many migrant workers.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:25 AM
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Err, no one is forcing both spouses to work. The point is,
> if someone
> >elses spouse works then maybe you have to as well.
> >
> >As for cats and dogs... when that happens I'll be looking for the
> >weather report in hell. ;)
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> >-rc
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> >
> Yes, and then
Raymond Camden wrote:
>>Exactly. That's my point. Is this the way you want to see
>>society go.
>>Husband and wife have to work to keep things afloat (happens
>>a lot already). Big communes popping up to defer costs.
>>Children eventually need to go to work because wages keep
>>getting b
That's the whole purpose of government - to create laws that regulate the interactions between people.
- Matt Small
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From: Simon Horwith
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: More Breaking News
I'm not sure
>
> Exactly. That's my point. Is this the way you want to see
> society go.
> Husband and wife have to work to keep things afloat (happens
> a lot already). Big communes popping up to defer costs.
> Children eventually need to go to work because wages keep
> getting bid lower and lower.
uary 2004 16:02
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Heald, Tim wrote:
>Good and Evil are not part of this equation. Do you think this is a moral
>question?
>
>
>
>
I'm not sure where I'm referring to good and evil??
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From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 January 2004 15:49
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>but the government has a responsibility to step-in and draw the line
somewhe
Exactly. That's my point. Is this the way you want to see society go.
Husband and wife have to work to keep things afloat (happens a lot
already). Big communes popping up to defer costs. Children eventually
need to go to work because wages keep getting bid lower and lower. Cats
and dogs s
. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 10:20 AM 1/7/2004, you wrote:
>While I know that government research, mainly defense based, is in
large
>part responsible for great technological advances, this
> But in my example, you're only asking for what your family
> can subsist on. Nothing extra, just enough to keep you from
> starving.
Ok, but the other family has made a decision to work with a large set of
people. Is that wrong? Taking a simpler example, its like a case where both
the husban
>
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>
>
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>Stephen E. Schuster
>PeopleSoft Administrator
>2000 Ashland Drive
>Ashland, KY 41101
>
>
>Office Phone 606.920.7447
>Cell Phone 606.831.4590
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: So you are for Monopolies, Racism and discrimination?
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But in my example, you're only asking for what your family can subsist
on. Nothing extra, just enough to keep you from starving.
The minimum wage only addresses that lower end. I'm not sure that
minimum wage ea
But in my example, you're only asking for what your family can subsist
on. Nothing extra, just enough to keep you from starving.
The minimum wage only addresses that lower end. I'm not sure that
minimum wage earners would be buying expensive cars and going out to eat
very much.
marlon
Raym
KY 41101
>
>
>Office Phone 606.920.7447
>Cell Phone 606.831.4590
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>From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:45 AM
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>Heald, Tim wrote:
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>
&
I figured it all out.
The government hires ½ of the population and pays them a salary.
That ½ of the populations job is to watch the other 1.2 of the population
and report "law violations" to Big Brother.
Problem solved...
Oh yeah, we shoot all violators.
Eventually you leave or fol
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. Reality dictates that we do things like mandate minimum wages because it holds society to higher standards than it would be otherwise.
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From: Larry C. Lyons
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:56 AM
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At 10:20 AM 1/7/2004,
> Say you're applying for a job. You have a family of 5 and
> you give the minimum figure that your family can subsist on.
>
> Someone else comes along, and since their culture encourages
> whole family units, up to 20 people, to live together and
> share expenses they can undercut you by half
Heald, Tim wrote:
>Good and Evil are not part of this equation. Do you think this is a moral
>question?
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I'm not sure where I'm referring to good and evil??
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Say you're applying for a job. You have a family of 5 and you give the
minimum figure that your family can subsist on.
Someone else comes along, and since their culture encourages whole
family unit
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:45 AM
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Heald, Tim wrote:
>Also don't get me wrong, I didn't say I am against
At 10:20 AM 1/7/2004, you wrote:
>While I know that government research, mainly defense based, is in large
>part responsible for great technological advances, this is not necessarily
>always the case. Xerox, IBM and Microsoft, all private companies, had a lot
>to do with getting us where we are to
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Say you're applying for a job. You have a family of 5 and you give the
minimum figure that your family can subsist on.
Someone else comes along, and since their culture encourages whole
family units, up to 20 people, to live together and
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