BTW...this woman as a 80 something year old woman from Portland that
traveled to Chicago to protest...she rocks!
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk t
ithut the
context of what really happened, misinformation was spread.
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
There are no "incorrect fa
I never do
.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> apply a basic turning test on it. if it passes they may be human. If
> it fails, its probably Sam.
>
> j/k Sam don't get too offended.
>
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u apparently are eliza...
> That's creates a problem b/c now I know not who I am.
>
> Formerly known as eliza.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:26 PM
> To: cf-community
> Su
y 23, 2012 4:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
I've met Larry, and Dana - they are real people.
-Eliza
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons
wrote:
> all your base are belong to us
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:14
That's the beauty of being a libertarian, you can pick any radical
view and treat it as your own.
.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Not nearly.
>
> We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of
> government. All I have done is change my opinion on inter
Here here
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:35 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
Not nearly.
We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of gover
I'm seen both before. Good read though.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
Without getting too academic here, you m
Not nearly.
We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of
government. All I have done is change my opinion on intervention and
foreign affairs.
If anything it shows that I can have an open mind, and change my opinion
based on objective reality, not blindly parrot a party line
Said the guy that now agrees with everything Larry, Dana and Eric say
:P
.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Well Sam's here too.
>
> bwahahahahaha
>
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act... he did not in fact throw the rock.
>
> Wow...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
>
>
> There are no &q
I've met Larry, and Dana - they are real people.
-Eliza
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> all your base are belong to us
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pierre Demester
> wrote:
> >
> > rigg. what a way to divert. Congrats. I'm not even sure
> if I
>
e of the
> simple little fact... he did not in fact throw the rock.
>
> Wow...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
> I keep getting these messages about the text being to long - so I cut them
> off .sorry
>
> "You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't
> think you read the preceding thread at all."
>
That's not a question, bu
mail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> The answer is Yes. In a round-about way but it's still Yes.
To what ques
2:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
There are no "incorrect facts". If it is incorrect, it is either a lie, a
misconception, spin or disinformation - not a fact.
A photo is also not a "fact". It is a photo. And y
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> The answer is Yes. In a round-about way but it's still Yes.
To what question? You answered a non-question post?
-Cameron
...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
>
>
> You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point
ge-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't think
you read the preceding thread at all.
-
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> There are no "incorrect facts". If it is incorrect, it is either a
> lie, a misconception, spin or disinformation - not a fact.
>
> A photo is also not a "fact". It is a photo. And you cannot
> determine a fact from it unless you are aware o
There are no "incorrect facts". If it is incorrect, it is either a
lie, a misconception, spin or disinformation - not a fact.
A photo is also not a "fact". It is a photo. And you cannot
determine a fact from it unless you are aware of the context, and know
with certainty that it has not been d
You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't
think you read the preceding thread at all.
-Cameron
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Have you seen an occupy protest chant "we are funded by here>"? What does tha
I sure did - thank you :)
-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Pierre Demester
wrote:
>
> Stop b
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
>
> Stop bad-mouthing my Kenyan conspiracy emails.
>
Did you get the check i sent you?
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t; I see things you don't.
>> >
>> > It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
>>
Maybe perhaps... you are aware of incorrect facts ?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
How is that not true? F
How is that not true? For an expert, you seem to be not very aware of who
is funding them.
-Original Message-
From: Pierre Demester [mailto:pie...@demester.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:00 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the p
Sounds like it.
blarg lets make noise about party politics and ignore the downfall of our
nation blarg
LOOUUDD!!
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Or maybe it just makes him a paid lackey of the mainstream media.
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > not
>> > - I photograph for several news agencies.
>> >
>> > I see things you don't.
>> >
>> > It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
The Democrats are a "large news organization"?
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Demester
wrote:
>
> Yes - I a freelance for a large news organization.
>
> No matter what you called it - Freedo
My typing gets really bad when I am behind schedule.
-Original Message-
From: Pierre Demester [mailto:pie...@demester.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:19 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
Yes - I a freelance for a large
The Democrats are a "large news organization"?
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Demester wrote:
>
> Yes - I a freelance for a large news organization.
>
> No matter what you called it - Freedom Works, Glenn Beck, George Soros, Van
> Jones, etc etc blah blah blah are not news organization
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
oh you're freelance? And no Googles were harmed in that bit of research :)
it's called identifying a domain in an email address. I looked at
demester.com. If there's more out there I didn't look at it.
On Wed,
hmm. And I have the tweets. Both may only be partial truths. But I gotta
take a rain check on the rest of this discussion, client breathing down my
neck.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pierre Demester wrote:
>
> My computer is really slow. Have way to many windows open.
>
> "I don't believe t
doesn't who it's for. Organization pay me to show up with a
> camera. What I see is what I photograph.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:51 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occ
My computer is really slow. Have way to many windows open.
"I don't believe that. I believe it started as a grass roots movement and
even held to the roots a little longer than the occupy movement. This is
mainly due to it's middle class structure. More money and infrastructure
from the star
Or maybe it just makes him a paid lackey of the mainstream media.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> not questioning your expertise, just questioning your expertise ;) 88,000
> photographs? For who? Of what? Maybe the answers to that make you an expert
> on OWS, but let's see what
#x27;s for. Organization pay me to show up with a
camera. What I see is what I photograph.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:51 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
not q
"The Tea Party has always been grassroots."
I don't believe that. I believe it started as a grass roots movement and
even held to the roots a little longer than the occupy movement. This is
mainly due to it's middle class structure. More money and infrastructure
from the start. However, the
"The Tea party started out as a grass roots organization until it was taken
over by Dick Armey, Fox, the Koch brothes, and friends. "
This is not true... but whatever.
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"It does appear to be dishonest claiming to be a grassroots organization yet
getting most of your funding and organization from either very rich
benefactors or special interest groups, like Freedom Works."
My employer is not Freedom Works or George Soros or Van Jones. Though you
will find my imag
which I've done for 35
> > > years...
> > > > - I photograph for several news agencies.
> > > >
> > > > I see things you don't.
> > > >
> > > > It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
rt OWS - do it. Get involved instead reading emails.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:50 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
>
>
ral news agencies.
> > >
> > > I see things you don't.
> > >
> > > It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
>
- I photograph for several news agencies.
> >
> > I see things you don't.
> >
> > It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly
-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
It does appear to be dishonest claiming to be a grassroots organization yet
getting most of your funding and organization from either very rich
benefactors or special interest groups, like Freedom Works.
On Wed, M
How can they not be aware? It has been publicized in the media who is
giving to the tea party.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:44 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the p
y movement. That has been well publicized in the news.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:24 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM,
-community
Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
OWS was never grassroots.
It was started by socialist minded people.
If you believe for a second they are or were grassroots
- you are seriously lost in the media spew.
That statement might rouse a few feathers
- If not,
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:59 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
"They need warm bodies, and aren't particularly careful about who they are
or how well aligned their beliefs are."
They also need money and logistical support.
It does appear to be dishonest claiming to be a grassroots
organization yet getting most of your funding and organization from
either very rich benefactors or special interest groups, like Freedom
Works.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:34
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> very true. if a group is receiving most of their funding from a well
> funded special interest group or very wealthy benefactors, like the
> Koch brothers, then that completely distorts the intended message. It
> becomes astroturf in the e
very true. if a group is receiving most of their funding from a well
funded special interest group or very wealthy benefactors, like the
Koch brothers, then that completely distorts the intended message. It
becomes astroturf in the eyes of the public. No matter how meritorious
the message, its inv
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> you tend to notice when they are in your face twice a day for a couple
> of weeks. At least with OWS they picked a different part of the
> district to occupy.
Yes, like you, I do tend to take note of things I directly observe.
However, t
you tend to notice when they are in your face twice a day for a couple
of weeks. At least with OWS they picked a different part of the
district to occupy.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> I was interested
[mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:50 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
you could also follow what your right. Your own experience isn't everything.
Others here also have valid experiences.
One thing I did not
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> I was interested in the groups right after the initial 2009 protests
> over thanksgiving of that year. those organizations were closely
> involved since the beginning.
It's possible. I haven't paid that much attention to that aspect of i
I was interested in the groups right after the initial 2009 protests
over thanksgiving of that year. those organizations were closely
involved since the beginning.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> Except t
't.
>
> It's amazing some people "think they know" everything.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:23 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Except that the tea party's roots also include large well funded
> groups like various groups funded by the Koch brothers and Karl
> Rove's Crossroads America etc. While I may not like OWS at least its
> not funded by very rich interests.
e grassroots
>> - you are seriously lost in the media spew.
>>
>> That statement might rouse a few feathers
>> - If not, this one might
>>
>> The Tea Party has always been grassroots.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Messa
Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:23 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
The tea baggers I've seen were anything but grassroots. Unless astroturf is
grassroots
might rouse a few feathers
> - If not, this one might
>
> The Tea Party has always been grassroots.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:08 AM
> To: cf-community
> S
m]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:08 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
>
>
> "really? not seeing unions over here."
>
> They might not be advertising, considering the implications.
>
> Anyway, gues
.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:08 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
"really? not seeing unions over here."
They might not be advertising, considering the implic
"really? not seeing unions over here."
They might not be advertising, considering the implications.
Anyway, guess which union rented office space for Occupy DC.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Politicians are people who, when
"They need warm bodies, and aren't particularly careful about who they are
or how well aligned their beliefs are."
They also need money and logistical support. Someone has to feed the
crowds, provide the sound systems and stages, pay for literature and print
it, and so on. With the occupy crowd
really? not seeing unions over here. Possibly true where you are though I
dunno. Over here the problem is black bloc and/or instigators. I am not
defending occupy atlanta for the same reason -- occupy politics more than
most is local
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:20 AM, GMoney wrote:
>
> On Tue, Ma
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:20 AM, GMoney wrote:
> That's really unfortunate, actually. No matter what you thought of the
> original, grassroots message of the early occupy movement, they should have
> been allowed to voice their message of protest in a"pure" manner, for
> lack of a better ter
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street."
>
> I'd say that they are all a joke now. The occupy movement started as a
> nice grass roots effort and has been compromised now, particularly by the
> unions.
"The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street."
I'd say that they are all a joke now. The occupy movement started as a
nice grass roots effort and has been compromised now, particularly by the
unions. It seems to be the American way.
J
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Ninety percent of politici
bwahahahahaha
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Demester >wrote:
>
> > The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
>
>
> Hell, they are a joke compared to a kid throwing a tantrum in a grocery
> st
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Demester wrote:
> The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
Hell, they are a joke compared to a kid throwing a tantrum in a grocery
store.
-Cameron
~~
The Occupy Atlanta group is a joke compared to the ones near Wall Street.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:39 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police
Yeah - I should
Yeah - I should have taken a pic. I'll see if it's still up later today if
I remember.
They put up a bunch of other signs too, most of them half destroyed by
moisture...
-Cameron
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, PT wrote:
> Heh. You should grab one and scan it.
>
> Talking to the police, a
Heh. You should grab one and scan it.
Talking to the police, as in forming some kind of relationship is a good
thing to do. Other times, talking to the police is an ignorant thing to
do. If the police are asking about witness type stuff, it is probably
OK and a public service to tel what yo
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