On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> If there's one law that always hold true it's that unsustainable things
> cannot be sustained.
LOL!
"How much longer can this go on?"
"It's unsustainable"
"In general, or... like, it /is/ going on right now, neh?"
"Well, yeah, but, like, no
Judah McAuley wrote:
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> Debt interest is not the same thing as Medicare which is not the same
> thing as Social Security. They are three totally different problems
> with totally different solutions and Social Security hardly counts as
> even a pressing problem.
>
>
Well, we all have our own ac
G Money wrote:
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> This post pretty much echoes his first post on this list many years
> agobut of course the date of doom was much closer to 2011 back then.
> Now
> that it's 2011, the date of doom has been pushed back to 2025. When 2025
> comes along, and America is still humming along, im
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By
> 2025 US entitlements and debt interest will exceed our entire revenue.
> That's not much more than a decade away.
>
> The bottom line is that we're broke.
>
> The cur
percentage of the budget that goes to paying just interest on our debt, but
it is a pretty good sized chunk.
Eric
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Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were
> usually run by religious groups and other non-profits
>
>
It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By
2025 US
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> Eric Roberts wrote:
>
>>
>> Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were usually
>> run
>> by religious groups and other non-profits
>>
>>
> It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By
> 2025
Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were usually
> run
> by religious groups and other non-profits
>
>
It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By
2025 US entitlements and debt interest will exceed our entire revenue.
: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch
Cost and profiteering is what got us into this mess. Health care has always
been private. It wasn't until the hospitals because profit centers for
corporations that healthcare costs became unmanageable.
I will fully confess to being biased on this t
Cost and profiteering is what got us into this mess. Health care has
always been private. It wasn't until the hospitals because profit
centers for corporations that healthcare costs became unmanageable.
I will fully confess to being biased on this topic, as I once again
have to have heart surge
Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I agree that the consolidation of health insurance companies has led
> to fewer choices and that the combined companies wield an unfair
> amount of influence over providers and do everything in their power to
> discourage competition, reform and meaningful change in heal
I didn't see exclusion...so yeah...you are right on that.
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Eric Ro
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> Privatizing healthcare is what got us into this mess. Insurance companies
> caused healthcare costs to rise because they weren't paying what docs wanted
> them to pay, so they raised prices. People can't afford insurance on their
> own or
t it does allow small
business owners to get in group plans to cover themselves and their
employees.
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Well, there's 2
Well, there's 2 components of the healthcare debate:
(A.) Escalating costs.
(B.) The finance mechanism.
"single payer" is a finance mechanism which, if you don't control escalating
costs is relevant. Said differently, if I owe my doctor $1M for medical
treatment it doesn't matter if he sends t
more
interested in making sure the insurance companies were able to make a buck.
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 17:52
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Subject: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch
Eric Roberts wrote:
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> "I
And I expect any kind of stupid comment from you. If it's stupid, it's damn
near a guarantee ole' sammycode said it.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Sam wrote:
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> I expect those kind of stupid comments from you.
> But unlike you, I would rather solve the problem than be the problem.
>
>
> .
I expect those kind of stupid comments from you.
But unlike you, I would rather solve the problem than be the problem.
.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Medic wrote:
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>>
>> Do you still get health benefits after you retire or does it end with
>> employment like the rest of us?
>>
>
> Sounds
>
> Do you still get health benefits after you retire or does it end with
> employment like the rest of us?
>
Sounds like someone's been drinking the hateraide.
> I'm paying just as much and getting much less.
>
Perhaps you should learn to make better deals instead of hating on people
who are
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Ian Skinner wrote:
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> Yes, I did.
I don't think you did.
> Failed again. My salary is higher then all those around me in the same
> position.
Must be the associate in the title.
> I was hired above minimum, meaning I started in the middle of the salary
> ra
Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> "I got to thinking: What if the Republicans in Washington had fled the
> country when the Democrats were ramming their health care bill through
> Congress? Seems like a brilliant tactic now."
>
> Single Payer healthcare?
>
The Blue Dogs and the centrists would've had to h
On 2/24/2011 3:02 PM, Sam wrote:
> Also, did you calculate your pension for the amount of years you plan
> on living?
>
Yes, I did.
> Because your salary is unexplainably low. I'm sure the people around
> you make double that. Sorry to be the one to point that out.
Failed again. My salary is
Here's the video of what Rachel Maddow said...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/
BTW...can't confirm this yet, but I heard Shep Smith got fired for not
towing the Fox line. I am looking for confirmation of this...
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Ian Skinner wrote:
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> Might be relevant if I was a FEDERAL employee. Nice try with the apple
> and orange addition. The last time I calculated my pay with benefits it
> was ~75k. Not bad but but still 25% short of six figures.
Um, are you trying to use an ane
On 2/24/2011 1:59 PM, Sam wrote:
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm
>
> These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and
> other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008
> vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Burea
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm
These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and
other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008
vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic
Analysis.
$57,596.00
+$40
"I got to thinking: What if the Republicans in Washington had fled the
country when the Democrats were ramming their health care bill through
Congress? Seems like a brilliant tactic now."
Single Payer healthcare?
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On 2/24/2011 1:29 PM, Sam wrote:
> "You earn $50,000 a year, but people that work in your state
> government earn $100,000 a year, and you're paying for it. Where's the
> justice?"
Yeah every state worker earns six figure salaries and nobody in the
private sector does.
http://www.sacbee.com/sta
"I'm really starting to wonder if Obama's ideological hero was Karl
Marx or Groucho Marx."
"Where are all the polls about what's going on in Wisconsin? Isn't the
media interested in who the public is supporting there? Or are they
not able to get the results they want, even with all their
oversamp
Fascinating isn't it?
I like to play along to make him happy.
.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
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> Why you guys always have to have a pee-pee contest?
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:31 AM, G Money wrote:
>> >
>> > On
24, 2011 08:19
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Subject: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> And what is the real Walker?
> Stand his ground and don't cave at the first sign of pressure?
> He thought about using the Dem tactic of putting pl
Why you guys always have to have a pee-pee contest?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Sam wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:31 AM, G Money wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Sam wrote:
> > The crystallization of the right's anti-union feelings and actions.
> That's
> > inter
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:31 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Sam wrote:
> The crystallization of the right's anti-union feelings and actions. That's
> interesting.
I call that common sense.
>> That's fascinating.
>>
>
> I said you were fascinating, not the prank call
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Sam wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:10 AM, G Money wrote:
> >
>
> > Not muchother than the obvious parts I disagree with.
>
> Nothing worth mentioning.
>
> > Was an
> > interesting insight into the intimate thoughts and motives of a right
> wing
>
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:10 AM, G Money wrote:
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> Not muchother than the obvious parts I disagree with.
Nothing worth mentioning.
> Was an
> interesting insight into the intimate thoughts and motives of a right wing
> governor
Nothing again.
> so I found it very interesting, a
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> So tell me, what did you find wrong with Walkers comments?
> Take your time looking over Huffpo or Kos to get the answer.
> I'll wait.
>
>
Not muchother than the obvious parts I disagree with. Was an
interesting insight into the intimate th
So tell me, what did you find wrong with Walkers comments?
Take your time looking over Huffpo or Kos to get the answer.
I'll wait.
.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM, G Money wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> Congrats G Money, you are an undisputedly
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> Congrats G Money, you are an undisputedly fascinating tool.
>
I never claimed otherwise.
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A fascinating tool has no idea how it's being used. That's what's
fascinating about it.
.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> Congrats G Money, you are an undisputedly fascinating tool.
>
>
>
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Ord
Congrats G Money, you are an undisputedly fascinating tool.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> And the left thinks i'm a fascinating tool of the right.
>
>
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Of course not, they love you.
But if it makes you feel better about yourself, keep on thinking it.
.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM, G Money wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> And you sir are a fascinating tool of the left...even though you don't
>> realize it.
>
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> And you sir are a fascinating tool of the left...even though you don't
> realize it.
>
> Carry on the good work.
>
And the left thinks i'm a fascinating tool of the right.
Affirmation!
~~~
And you sir are a fascinating tool of the left...even though you don't
realize it.
Carry on the good work.
.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:18 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> And what is the real Walker?
>> Stand his ground and don't cave at the first sig
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> And what is the real Walker?
> Stand his ground and don't cave at the first sign of pressure?
> He thought about using the Dem tactic of putting plants in the crowd
> but decided against it?
> Twenty minutes of being lead by sandbag journalism and
And what is the real Walker?
Stand his ground and don't cave at the first sign of pressure?
He thought about using the Dem tactic of putting plants in the crowd
but decided against it?
Twenty minutes of being lead by sandbag journalism and they got nothing?
Pretty sad that it even made the news.
That would be "oxycontin alert" or "viagra alert" or "bullshit alert"...
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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 22:33
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I
Nope..Bobble-heads don't exist in my world.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> Is that a sideways reference to Rush Limbaugh?
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
>>
>> Oxymoron alert.
~~~
Is that a sideways reference to Rush Limbaugh?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Oxymoron alert.
>
>
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Oxymoron alert.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Ray Champagne wrote:
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> I like that the real Walker was found out, but is this ethical journalism?
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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 20:29
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch
I like that the real Walker was found out, but is this ethical journalism?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Gruss Gott wrote
LMAO! Best comment in months LOL!
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> And with that question the internet cracked in half.
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Ray Champagne
> wrote:
>
> > but is this ethical journalism?
> >
>
~~
And with that question the internet cracked in half.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Ray Champagne wrote:
>
> but is this ethical journalism?
>
>
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I like that the real Walker was found out, but is this ethical journalism?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> This is awesome:
>
> MADISON, Wis. On a prank call that quickly spread across the
> Internet, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker was duped into discussing his
> strategy
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