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Hah - well I tried to make it about beer after all! On Feb 4, 2012, at 6:04 PM, "Erika L. Rich" wrote: > > yeah yeah yeah. ruin my fun. > I'm telling you, programmers are losing their sense of humor these days > :P > > > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > >>

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yeah yeah yeah. ruin my fun. I'm telling you, programmers are losing their sense of humor these days :P On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > > Ahhh. Those with the most ice stored up in freezers wins. Gotcha.

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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > Ahhh. Those with the most ice stored up in freezers wins. Gotcha. > The problem is a little less local than that. But feel free to fill your freezer - the ice is good for keeping beer cold. -Cameron ...

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Ahhh. Those with the most ice stored up in freezers wins. Gotcha. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > > It was in response to everyone in general. I'm all for slowing things > down > > if we can, but I'm just cu

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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > It was in response to everyone in general. I'm all for slowing things down > if we can, but I'm just curious if this is something that's going to come > to a head before or after I die. > Ahh. I'm not sure I expect a single huge event to

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It was in response to everyone in general. I'm all for slowing things down if we can, but I'm just curious if this is something that's going to come to a head before or after I die. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I can't tell who you're responding to, but I don't

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I guess now I have to play. Canada Mexico Aruba Cayman Wales England Ireland Luxembourg France Italy Germany On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I suspect that if he ever did it would be a negative number. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >> LOL! I

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I suspect that if he ever did it would be a negative number. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > LOL! It only becomes odd if you don't answer hahaha > > On 28 January 2012 12:17, Sam wrote: > >> >> Why? >> Seems like a very odd question. >> >> . >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:46

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LOL! It only becomes odd if you don't answer hahaha On 28 January 2012 12:17, Sam wrote: > > Why? > Seems like a very odd question. > > . > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > > Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business, > if > > it wasn't from ai

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Why? Seems like a very odd question. . On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business, if > it wasn't from airport to meeting and back? ~| Order the Ado

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You are too funny. In such a sad way. . On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Dana wrote: > > yup ;) did you see what happened when I tried to explain "neo-liberal"? I > think I was talking to someone else, but he was part of the utter > incomprehension ;) ~

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Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business, if it wasn't from airport to meeting and back? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?

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Sam, having you call me a hater would be an insult if it were not so funny... On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Sam wrote: > > Ignorance is bliss. > But I didn't say we were the happiest, how can we be with haters like > Larry and Dana :) > > . > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Casey Dougal

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to the individual, it's not really the size of the economy that matters. Per-capita income and standard of living probably affect daily life much more. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:14 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > the Canadian economy is d

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yup ;) did you see what happened when I tried to explain "neo-liberal"? I think I was talking to someone else, but he was part of the utter incomprehension ;) On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > > My position depends entirely on the issue - and the facts behind the > issue, not th

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you don't get it, Sam. This *is* the same old song and dance. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > Same ole song and dance. You just don't see it. > You're are as left wing as Larry and Dana > > If it helps, Larry thinks he's in the middle. > > . > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

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See? You're a stopped clock screaming for movement. On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Sam wrote: > > That is the problem. You don't care about the facts. Someone told you > we act now or die and they tell there friends they made it up to scare > fools. Now you realize you're the fool he was ref

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > So then you must be blissed out most of the time. No, I love the USA, but most of the things I love are world wide anyway. Snowboarding is world wide in amazing locations, Europe is king for Drum & Bass / Jungle along with Germany a close

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So then you must be blissed out most of the time. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Sam wrote: > > Ignorance is bliss. > But I didn't say we were the happiest, how can we be with haters like > Larry and Dana :) > > . > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website > Solutions

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Ignorance is bliss. But I didn't say we were the happiest, how can we be with haters like Larry and Dana :) . On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Sam wrote: > >> The US itself is the greatest country eva! >> And

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Sam wrote: > The US itself is the greatest country eva! > And don;t forget that! > Looks like Sam needs to travel a bit more... On this top 10 we come in at 17 http://www.financialjesus.com/how-to-get-rich/top-10-happiest-countries/ And this list we rank #4 h

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such childish jingoism. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Sam wrote: > > The US itself is the greatest country eva! > And don;t forget that! > > . > > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> More successful? In what way pray tell? >> >> By any metric the Canadian Cons

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Why not, we already supply over half your energy. Now is the time to squeeze if you ask me. Besides there are other countries, like China and India that are willing to pay through the nose for the oil. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:14 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Larry C.

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uhmm.. Gel, we do, but the rest of the world seems to think that we owe them something, we don't On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Vivec wrote: > > The rest of the world is hoping and praying Obama gets a second term and > none of the republicans get into power. > > I know Americans don't give a

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The US itself is the greatest country eva! And don;t forget that! . On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > More successful? In what way pray tell? > > By any metric the Canadian Conservative party is doing much better > than the US republicans. They have been in power muc

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > the Canadian economy is doing much beter than the US It is? Well...isn't that special. At this rate, Canada's economy may some day grow to 10% of the US! Go Beavers! ~~~

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publican stance and he >> comes across as a very mild RINO. And that is typical of the rest of >> the world. >> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:51 PM >>> To: cf-comm

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riginal Message- >> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:51 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook >> >> >> Aren't folks supposed to become more conservative as they mature? >>

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We don't. We're the greatest country in the world because we ignore your advice. :P What you and your other countries are hoping for is our decline and that will happen if we continue on the European path. Unfortunately, the Russians and the Chinese will not be so kind if we decline. . On Fri

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The rest of the world is hoping and praying Obama gets a second term and none of the republicans get into power. I know Americans don't give a damn about the rest of the world, but I'm just saying. informal surveys suggest that the rest of the world thinks Republicans as displayed during these G

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as a very mild RINO. And that is typical of the rest of the world. > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:51 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook > > > Aren't folks supposed to bec

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Your probably too smart, or something, to see the irony in your response. . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > > My position depends entirely on the issue - and the facts behind the > issue, not the nonsense and spin that seem to define your stance on > almost everything.  You ar

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Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook Aren't folks supposed to become more conservative as they mature? You're like a little Benjamin Button. . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The middle ground for Canada. Before moving to the US I was a member > of the

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My position depends entirely on the issue - and the facts behind the issue, not the nonsense and spin that seem to define your stance on almost everything. You are all about labeling people, but you have no real idea what our positions are because you put anyone who disagrees with you or the pund

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Aren't folks supposed to become more conservative as they mature? You're like a little Benjamin Button. . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The middle ground for Canada. Before moving to the US I was a member > of the Conservative Party of Canada and was a moderate cons

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The middle ground for Canada. Before moving to the US I was a member of the Conservative Party of Canada and was a moderate conservative for Canada. I suspect that given US politics, being a moderate Canadian conservative means being a extreme left wing radical for the US. Heaven help you Sam if y

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*snark* LOL -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook Anything you've posted since you joined the list. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Sam wrote: > > Exam

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Sam saying someone doesn't care about the facts LOL...that is ripe... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook That is the problem. You don't care about the facts. So

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Same ole song and dance. You just don't see it. You're are as left wing as Larry and Dana If it helps, Larry thinks he's in the middle. . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Maureen wrote: > > You can't say it about me and the left wing because it isn't true. I > am as hard on them when they lie

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You can't say it about me and the left wing because it isn't true. I am as hard on them when they lie as I am the right wing. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Sam wrote: > > If I said that about you and the left wing you would jump into your > canned song and dance. > > So I won't :) ~

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If I said that about you and the left wing you would jump into your canned song and dance. So I won't :) . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Anything you've posted since you joined the list. > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Examples please? >> >>

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Anything you've posted since you joined the list. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Sam wrote: > > Examples please? > > . > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Why should he admit he has been duped?  You've fallen for every lie >> the right wing has ever told, and you've nev

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Examples please? . On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Why should he admit he has been duped?  You've fallen for every lie > the right wing has ever told, and you've never admitted once that you > were duped.

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Why should he admit he has been duped? You've fallen for every lie the right wing has ever told, and you've never admitted once that you were duped. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Sam wrote: > > Frankly I find it boring. Admit you've been duped, or not, and move > on. Don't try to re-frame t

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otherwise known as the bug on the windshield scenario... On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Sam wrote: > > That is the problem. You don't care about the facts. Someone told you > we act now or die and they tell there friends they made it up to scare > fools. Now you realize you're the fool he wa

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That is the problem. You don't care about the facts. Someone told you we act now or die and they tell there friends they made it up to scare fools. Now you realize you're the fool he was referring to so you change the scope of the discussion to what should we do if it were real. Frankly I find it

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I continue to not understand the data debate; visually we can see enough. Sam keeps saying he favors collective action, and that he's posted all about it, but I've never seen a single recommendation for collective action from him. Further, we continue with lots of data posts; who cares? We're

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what she said On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Read the thread. Didn't see anything that wasn't tainted by either > the funding behind the group posting it or the absolute insanity of > the claimant. > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > I'll let you fin

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No, it's a site hosted on Google. Which you know, unless you're more ignorant today than normal. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Sam wrote: > > Did you see this link: > > https://sites.google.com/site/globalwarmingquestions/climategate-2 > > It's google :P ~~~

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Did you see this link: https://sites.google.com/site/globalwarmingquestions/climategate-2 It's google :P ; On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Read the thread.  Didn't see anything that wasn't tainted by either > the funding behind the group posting it or the absolute insanit

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Read the thread. Didn't see anything that wasn't tainted by either the funding behind the group posting it or the absolute insanity of the claimant. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Sam wrote: > > I'll let you finish reading the thread. > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Maureen wrote: >>

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I'll let you finish reading the thread. . On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Do you have any links that aren't paid for by the industries what > would profit from continuing to cut down trees and pollute the > environment? > ~~

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Do you have any links that aren't paid for by the industries what would profit from continuing to cut down trees and pollute the environment? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sam wrote: > > http://www.ncasi.org/publications/Detail.aspx?id=3025 > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Vivec wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> there isn't really a mutual desire to share information but really just >> one to argue. > > > I completely disagree. > I see what you did there. Well played, Sir. Judah ~

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It suddenly got quite here. Did I leave out this one? 0207.txt: Ray Bradley expresses his doubts about his own paper with Mann: " But there are real questions to be asked of the paleo reconstruction...things fall apart in recent decades... This makes criticisms of the "antis" difficult to respon

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Facts just don't seem to faze this lot. I guess I'll have to rely on the Duper's own words. Please tell me you feel the fool after reading these or I'll have to give up hope. . https://sites.google.com/site/globalwarmingquestions/climategate-2 Or this: 3373.txt: Ray Bradley: " Furthermore, th

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and other research institutes, and encourages external researchers to publish their work as appropriate in peer-reviewed journals. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:47 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Watch the Earth Cook http://www

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Medic wrote: > > there isn't really a mutual desire to share information but really just > > one to argue. > > I completely disagree. Taken straight from the liberal playbook. Damn hippie. -Cameron ... ~

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> > there isn't really a mutual desire to share information but really just > one to argue. I completely disagree. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?ta

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I was wondering something of the kind myself. You can show Sam facts, or you can not bother. Both have the same effect, but the latter allow you to get something else done. Shrug. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > why does everyone on this list waste their time trying to ge

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otherwise known as the bug-on-the-windshield scenario On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > In other words you have a bias for inaction: > > you see something unprecedented in human recorded observation but you > choose not to act until the danger is overwhelmingly proven.

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My first guess is they made a study to fit their predefined results. Sounds too stupid to look into. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Take s3x: There's a Cal study that depicts motivation in, say, political > candidates who oppose legal marijuana use vs those who favor

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I've told a dozen times already. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > So what is it you're recommending exactly? > > If I understand, youre saying "gather more data", but collectively create no > pre-emotive opposing force; is that right? > ~~~

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The two great lenses to observe human behavior are money and danger; everyone has some different level of action based on a different level of input. There's a great model describing human behavior as the sum of individual "apps" all looking for dominance - our personalities are thus a descript

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So what is it you're recommending exactly? If I understand, youre saying "gather more data", but collectively create no pre-emotive opposing force; is that right? On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > There's rational thinking and problem solving and there's the sky is > falling ment

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Put a cat somewhere in the video and watch the $$ roll in from Youtube lol ^_^ On 24 January 2012 19:44, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > As it is a matter of superstitious belief then, yes I would agree, it is > much easier teaching the ferrets new tricks. Some time or other i'll have > to post a co

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As it is a matter of superstitious belief then, yes I would agree, it is much easier teaching the ferrets new tricks. Some time or other i'll have to post a couple of videos of them performing a few... On Tuesday, January 24, 2012, Ras Tafari wrote: > > why does everyone on this list waste thei

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Wow, so you're sharing information but I'm just arguing? I'm using science you are using a gut feeling. whatever. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I tend to step in from time to time to make a point, but then am reminded > that there isn't really a mutual desire

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Were just bantering about old arguments. They are convinced everyone's forgotten the global warming was proven a fraud, renamed, and still a fraud. Al Gore is an idiot and his docudrama was stupid and false. Did you notice how the scope keeps changing from direct correlation to I have a feeling t

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word. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > why does everyone on this list waste their time trying to get sam to > agree to something he firmly doesnt believe in?? > > just wondering? > > larry i think you'd have more luck with your ferrets. > > im not saying either side is right

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I tend to step in from time to time to make a point, but then am reminded that there isn't really a mutual desire to share information but really just one to argue. That's usually when I vanish from the thread again. -Cameron On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > why does every

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why does everyone on this list waste their time trying to get sam to agree to something he firmly doesnt believe in?? just wondering? larry i think you'd have more luck with your ferrets. im not saying either side is right or wrong, i couldn't care less. i really couldn't. but it's amazing to

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And they used to farm in Greenland. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its not just the ice melting, there are a lot of other indicators as > well, time of year when new growth first starts has been progressively > earlier over the last decades. Bird and animal migrat

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There's rational thinking and problem solving and there's the sky is falling mentality. Guess which one you are. Again, none of us deniers are saying to do nothing. We're saying don't act out of panic. Gather your thoughts and work responsibly. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Gruss Gott wro

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Look at any graph that you think shows a correlation. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > If you're referring to the graph I sent, that's not the Andrill data > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology no

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Its not just the ice melting, there are a lot of other indicators as well, time of year when new growth first starts has been progressively earlier over the last decades. Bird and animal migrations from south to north has also started earlier. Or look at the ranges for certain species of animals t

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With our eyes we can see record levels of ice melt. With our thermometers we can see 10 of the 11 hottest recorded years in the last decade. So either you look at that and say, yeah, as a collective we should be acting or you say, no, as a collective we should not act. You are clearly saying

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If you're referring to the graph I sent, that's not the Andrill data On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> To my knowledge nobody has questioned the Andrill data or analysis which is >> circa 2010 and based on 13,000,000 year

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That's pretty cool. Don't wear you foil hat while doing this folks. Some researchers have investigated possible physical or geophysical explanations for alleged dowsing abilities. One study concluded that dowsers "respond" to a 60 Hz electromagnetic field, but this response does not occur if the

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He also claims to have paranormal abilities to find water using a dowsing rod. Just sayin... -Cameron On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Sam wrote: > Some opinions have more weight then others: > > Nils-Axel Mörner was head of paleogeophysics and geodynamics at > Stockholm University (1991-2005

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Some opinions have more weight then others: Nils-Axel Mörner was head of paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University (1991-2005), president of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999-2003), leader of the Maldives sea level project (2000-11), chairman of t

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opinion piece, not a journal article or a report from a reputable source. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html > > . > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM, L

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Most real scientists? Love the No True Scotsman fallacy. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Sam wrote: > > Not you too? > You have time, most real scientists say at least a million years. > > . > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: >> >> So what's the bottom line. Is the e

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > To my knowledge nobody has questioned the Andrill data or analysis which is > circa 2010 and based on 13,000,000 years of climate data. > > It shows 2 key things across those 13 million years: > > 1.) a direct correlation between atmospheric

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You guys will try anything to get cap-n-trade going. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > > http://www.skepticalscience.com/Earths-five-mass-extinction-events.html > > What Veron 2008 found > was

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What about fake facts? While you say I'm in the do nothing camp, I have driven clean and efficient cars for decades while you have not. I also support improving our factories rather than closing them all and letting China do the manufacturing with dirty factories. See, I'm the real doer. You're t

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The hockey stick showed the temps flat until the last few decades. The revised version shows that the Roman period was just as hot and the Medieval period was hotter. Now it's just the normal cycle. . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Interesting. > > This disputes the hockey s

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To my knowledge nobody has questioned the Andrill data or analysis which is circa 2010 and based on 13,000,000 years of climate data. It shows 2 key things across those 13 million years: 1.) a direct correlation between atmospheric CO2 and global temp 2.) atmospheric CO2 twice as high as was e

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Whenever you get a group of humans together to make a decision based on > incomplete or unknowable facts you always get 2 general groups: > > * do nothing > * do something > Most likely we're already too late and we'll be headed into our 6th

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Whenever you get a group of humans together to make a decision based on incomplete or unknowable facts you always get 2 general groups: * do nothing * do something This is most visual in investing, starting a new business, etc. An example of an action-extremist would be Steve jobs. In this c

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Interesting. This disputes the hockey stick style graph. It doesn't say anything for the last ten years as it stops at 2000. We also need to take into account what these studies were trying to show: "The results of this study are relevant to the question of whether the MWP and LIA were real or

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you're expecting him to provide supporting evidence? > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Vivec wrote: >

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Did you read it: Due to the overview aspect of this study, and systematic and value uncertainties in the involved models, this analysis appropriately considered sea level rise estimates from the IPCC reports as eustatic occurrences, in other words, as uniform sea level rise estimates, rather than

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http://www.ncasi.org/publications/Detail.aspx?id=3025 . On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Links? > > On 24 January 2012 13:24, Sam wrote: > >> >> Not fraud, an honest mistake by an honest scientist ;) >> >> But the graph has been changed and the new one shows that the last >>

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Factually that is false - sea levels are already rising as a result of unprecedented ice melt that is accelerating. You can simply look at Greenland, Alaska, or Antarctica to see that. Or the northwest passage. You can watch it happen in time lapse here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/e

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Impossible to say since: 1.) climatology is nascent - we don't know what interacts with what. E.g., we know ice is melting at record levels and the rate is increasing beyond any forecasted levels. That releases a lot of methane which is a GHG and accelerates GW. 2.) since we can't predict h

Re: Watch the Earth Cook

you're expecting him to provide supporting evidence? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Links? > > On 24 January 2012 13:24, Sam wrote: > >> >> Not fraud, an honest mistake by an honest scientist ;) >> >> But the graph has been changed and the new one shows that the last >> deca

Re: Watch the Earth Cook

most of the comments I made was from a report by ICF for the department of transportation - Effects of Sea-level Rise on the National Transportation Infrastructure. In it, the report noted the 18 inch to 2 foot rise in sea levels on the east coast. Some of the maps and data tables show very signif

Re: Watch the Earth Cook

I do. It's because they are morons. But nice job changing the scope. All you're so called facts are wrong so now you're going with the hunch and believe or your stupid. Fact is the earth is not the warmest in the last 1000 years but CO2 is the highest. If the CO2 is delayed why did the temperatu

Re: Watch the Earth Cook

Links? On 24 January 2012 13:24, Sam wrote: > > Not fraud, an honest mistake by an honest scientist ;) > > But the graph has been changed and the new one shows that the last > decade was NOT the warmest in the last 1000 years. > > ~~

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