Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Just as an update, using a PDF form you can create an action in a button that uses http to  submit either the fdf data, an xml document or the full PDF to a specific location. Alternatively you can use the equivalent of a JS mailto to submit the document as an attachment to an email from the user's

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The subset of _javascript_ that pdf forms supports allow for a setup similar to a js mailto:. I'll forward an example when I'm at work tomorrow. But basically what it does is it opens the user's email client and attaches a pdf, fdf or xml file to the email. The user still has to click the send but

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Ian Skinner
My understanding of PDF forms is that they are just like any other web form except that instead of being presented as HTML they are PDF. So when you have people "save" a web form, you wouldn't have them save the HTML file on a server. You have them submit the data that gets saved in a database or

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Ian Skinner
Ian, they are not forms currently. I do have an assistant who knows how to create PDF forms, though, so that part I can have her do. So you are saying that a good starting point would be to convert all the PDFs into forms? I'd love to hear how you handled this challenge. This would defiantly

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Candace Cottrell
I think this is what is going to have to happen. Thanks for all the responses. I'll let you all know how it turns out :) Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org "There is no righ

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I just talked to someone who does PDF forms and she said it should also be possible to have the "submit" button in the form set to save the pdf and send it as an attachment in an email. So that might be another option. -Kevin On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 12:22:33 -0700, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Ian Skinner
I wish there was just some way they could fill out the PDF form and have it print to a file on the server or print to a networked computer. If you have a pdf form that should work just fine.  A user should be able to fill it out and print to any printer to which their computer has permission to

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
pshaw! larry On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:43:04 -0500, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're obviously not being sensitive to Mike D's concerns about > inappropriate language! > > :-) > > -Kevin > > On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:09:24 -0400, Candace Cottrell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I s

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
You're obviously not being sensitive to Mike D's concerns about inappropriate language! :-) -Kevin On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:09:24 -0400, Candace Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I say "malarkey"!! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Don

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
So she's back to Crystal Reports... :-) - Matt Small   _   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:23 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Saving PDFs Gah. Just using Flash on a web page means that I get calls from people asking me to

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Gah. Just using Flash on a web page means that I get calls from people asking me to make their plugins work. -Kevin On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:05:30 -0400, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I'm with your network manager.  In my experience, once you > install something on someone else's

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Ben Doom
Actually, I'm with your network manager.  In my experience, once you install something on someone else's system, you magically become responsible for it.  Not, mind you, because you really are, but because you are now associated with it. --Ben Candace Cottrell wrote: > No doubt :) > > There's

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
n we had a remote graphic designer who needed to print things in our local office for us.     _   From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:13 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Saving PDFs Thanks Matt... You tell those A-holes!!! :) I guess m

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Candace Cottrell
at CF does work with it - I'm unsure of how it functions though. - Matt Small   _   From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Saving PDFs Matt, when you say "get a reporting sysytem", do you mean buy

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Candace Cottrell
No doubt :) There's an HP solution out there that allows an end user to print to a network printer after they install a client piece. The issue is that the network manager believes that if we ask the doctors' offices to install that, then we will be supporting their machines. I say "malarkey"!!

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-09 Thread Candace Cottrell
Ian, they are not forms currently. I do have an assistant who knows how to create PDF forms, though, so that part I can have her do. So you are saying that a good starting point would be to convert all the PDFs into forms? I'd love to hear how you handled this challenge. Thanks!!! Candace K. Co

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Ian Skinner
A very good solution except for the ONE month deadline!!! :-0 Ian Larry C. Lyons wrote: > You know there's another solution we all have neglected to mention, > > Blackstone. > > :/ > > larry [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You know there's another solution we all have neglected to mention, Blackstone. :/ larry On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:17:23 -0400, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having gone back and read the entire thread, my first question to you would be are the pdf's already forms?  I kind of implied th

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Ian Skinner
Having gone back and read the entire thread, my first question to you would be are the pdf's already forms?  I kind of implied that them might be when you said you don't know "why the doctors don't fill them out, print them and then fax them." If you don't have to go through the trouble of creatin

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Matthew Small
andace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Saving PDFs Matt, when you say "get a reporting sysytem", do you mean buying somehting like Crystal? To give you an idea of what I am working with, we have a bunch of referra

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
ROFLMAO He wants me to do that part so he can run his blasted batch file. "I've seen it done," he says. What he may not realize is that the place where he saw it may have had 4 developers working on it for a year. And I'm supposed to do it in a month. Whateva cowboy!!! Things that make

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Sounds like he's volunteered to figure it out for you! :-D -Kevin On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:32:09 -0400, Candace Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The network guy here seems to think there is some way to submit a PDF form and have it save as a .pdf with the data intact and a unique name applied t

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
of an expense, > she could save the data, then write a CF page that will take the data and > generate an HTML page using CSS that will place everything exactly where it > should be and will print out perfectly as well. > > - Matt Small > >   _ > > From: Kevin Graem

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
vin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Saving PDFs > > Far be it from me to say you're doing it wrong, but...um...uh...I > think you're doing it wrong. > > My understanding of PDF forms i

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Regardless there's going to be quite a lot of work involved. To create the fdf forms you'll have to go through each and every pdf and put in the form fields. Its about as much work as creating the forms in HTML Using a combination of CSS, HTML and CF you can get the printed form to look very much l

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
Larry, the issue is that there are so many forms and they all require different data. Do you think it's still easier to build all of the current forms as HTML/CF forms rather than messing with the PDF/FDF/Batch file stuff? Do you think that it's possible to get the printed version to look exactly

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Candice, Why not use HTML forms and save the data. Then use CSS media=print to make the results printable. That way you can save the data and print it without having to go through all sorts of hoops with either HTMLDoc or Adobe's fdf. larry On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:08:25 -0400, Candace Cottrell <[

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
Matt, when you say "get a reporting sysytem", do you mean buying somehting like Crystal? To give you an idea of what I am working with, we have a bunch of referral forms, allwhich require different data: http://www.childrensdayton.org/Phys/faxReferral.htm Right now they're just normal PDFs that t

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Matthew Small
Small   _   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Saving PDFs Far be it from me to say you're doing it wrong, but...um...uh...I think you're doing it wrong. My understanding of PDF forms is that they ar

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Far be it from me to say you're doing it wrong, but...um...uh...I think you're doing it wrong. My understanding of PDF forms is that they are just like any other web form except that instead of being presented as HTML they are PDF. So when you have people "save" a web form, you wouldn't have them

RE: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Matthew Small
"Formatting is crucial" Why not just save the data and get a reporting system that prints the reports out correctly?  It will save resources and money in the long run if you do it correctly now. - Matt Small [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Setting

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Candice, Why go to all that work? Using something like HTMLDoc and CF_Html2Pdf3, you can save the files to where you want them to go and that's it. Anyhow I sent you some material on it, hope it helps. larry On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:14:18 -0400, Candace Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, t

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
Well, they want to be able to save the file to the server (Novell, so file servers and home drives are mapped), run a batch process that automatically takes all the docs in a folder and prints them. Formatting is crucial. I thought of using cffile to upload, but that would require the doctor to sa

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
That'd be great Larry. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time." >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Candice, In a word yes. I've done this with PDF forms in a recently finished project. It just sends it via normal http conntection If you want, I can forward you some tutorials that Tony Weeg sent me. larry On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:54:38 -0400, Candace Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello

Re: Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Are you wanting them to save the actual PDF file to the server or just save the form data? I haven't done much with PDF forms, but I think they send their information via normal HTTP connections. So if they are connected enough to fill out a form as a web page, then they should be able to send the

Saving PDFs

2004-09-08 Thread Candace Cottrell
Hello all! Is there a way for an end user not connected to your company network to save a PDF form to your server after it's been filled out? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.