"That's great, but I don't think FDR was talking about unions in
private industry.and it would appear that Reagan agrees with FDR's
contempt for a strike in the public sector, since he fired the controllers
in 81."
You are correct sir.
J
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My experience in getting money for Tuskegee has ta
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> As a counter-point to the letter from FDR, I'll go ahead an link you
> to two speeches by Ronald Reagan highlighting his support of Unions
> and, more specifically, Collective Bargaining.
>
> Here is Reagan's speech to the United Brotherh
As a counter-point to the letter from FDR, I'll go ahead an link you
to two speeches by Ronald Reagan highlighting his support of Unions
and, more specifically, Collective Bargaining.
Here is Reagan's speech to the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and
Joiners: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/in
"The original intent was to make a profit by targeting the liberal base
the same way Fox targets the conservative base, . . ."
I don't doubt it, but CNN was around for years before Fox. I believe Fox
came out to be the anti-CNN and it worked. In spades.
". . . but CNN and MSNBC have not been
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> Organizations like CNN and MSNBC have made no effort to stray from their
> format, regardless of profit concerns. The only explanation is that they
> believe something is more important than profit.
>
> The only question is: "What is the
In fact viewership of al Jazeera is going up in the United States
because its real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like
youre getting real news around the clock instead of a million
commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads and the
kind of stuff that we do on our
Of course there is an agenda in news, else CNN and MSNBC would make changes
in order to siphon viewers from Fox. Instead, they stick with the same
format or content with a different wrapper (ie, a new host).
It is standard operating procedure in media to mimic what is successful.
When a media o
We won the tet-offensive yet Cronkite reported back that we lost the
war and so we did.
.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Medic wrote:
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> That may be, but you have to admit the last 20 years are a whole new plateau
> in op/ed propaganda.
>
>
>
~
That may be, but you have to admit the last 20 years are a whole new plateau
in op/ed propaganda.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Nope. Google "Yellow Journalism". It's been around as long as
> language. Those who control the "news" control the ideology, and it
> has alw
Nope. Google "Yellow Journalism". It's been around as long as
language. Those who control the "news" control the ideology, and it
has always been necessary to listen with discernment.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> Remember when the news used to be facts about stuff that hap
Till some morons got into positions of power and started saying that 'facts
are relative' and what's considered wrong by western standards might well be
totally acceptable by someone else.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> Remember when the news used to be facts about stuff that
Right. Only now are they actually covering something close to 'real' news
about these places and that's mainly because everyone else is. Usually the
news is ignoring or glossing over the problems in those countries. I just
saw a puff piece about Syria that said nothing about their despotic
governm
Remember when the news used to be facts about stuff that happened?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Eric Roberts
> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.whoownsthenews.com/
> >
> http://blogs.salon.com/0001337/stories/2002/12/05/theConservativeMedia.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> http://www.whoownsthenews.com/
> http://blogs.salon.com/0001337/stories/2002/12/05/theConservativeMedia.html
> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/talk_radio.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias
> http://www.scribd.com/d
Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> funded funded as is NPB. I would call NPB more independent that liberal or
> conservative.
>
> Fox
> Wall Street Journal
>
Assuming I agreed with you, your point would still be irrelevant because
people can choose whatever "media" they want.
It's interesting that lefti
Robert Munn wrote:
>
> Our current system is in the process of self-destructing, pushed along
> perhaps by economic warfare from abroad as well as at home.
>
I read somewhere that in the 1950s the highest paid workers were doctors and
707 pilots; in other words, our society put a high value on
ivebias.html
Follow the money...
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 16:19
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> The media was pretty focused on Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya s
Gruss - it seems you have been gone too long.
You see, Eric lives in a world of absolutes - some of the best
examples of this are from threads you may have missed, such as:
Only teachers are qualified to teach our children - The Great
Homeschooling debate (he had a few other great generalization
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
>
> > We need a new mechanism to bring equality back to wage distribution, but
> it
> > ain't gonna be unions so we should just let them die so we can get on
> with
> > it.
>
> I'm more interested in the outcome than the mechanism. I don't t
I know this is anecdotal, at best, but I think that it is a pretty
good example of the reality of some unions (as I have heard similar
stories about other unions).
Shortly after I left the company I started as a web developer (and the
same company where I spent 14 years as a paramedic) the employ
Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> The media was pretty focused on Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya since things
> started up in Tunisia. I wasn't referring to media outlets outside of the
> US. You look at who owns and runs them Michael and it is ultra right
> conservatives.
>
>
That seems like a counter-intui
That's interesting, Robert, thank you, I had not seen that before. I
don't entirely agree with the letter but it is an interesting
historical and philosophical item.
Thanks,
Judah
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> Here is a link to the letter:
>
> http://www.presidency.ucs
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
> I agree with union proponents that unions guaranteed the middle class a
> living wage and that had positive effects for all of us but, like any
> institution, they grew out of all proportion with what they actually did.
>
> Outcome-wise, unions
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:37
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
Really? The same media who has been blind to all of the suffering in Egypt,
Tunisia, Libya, and all of the other Arab countries currently undergoing
revolution? It's
Robert Munn wrote:
>
> The function of the media, like everything else in the United States,
> revolves around money.
>
Pretty much on all counts.
First, "the media" doesn't really seem to exist anymore, at least for me. I
have podcasts, vodcasts, and rss feeds that I get most of my content f
Here is a link to the letter:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
> FDR said it best in a letter to the head of the National Federation of
> Federal Employees:
>
> My dear Mr. Steward:
>
> As I am unable to accept your kind
FDR said it best in a letter to the head of the National Federation of
Federal Employees:
My dear Mr. Steward:
As I am unable to accept your kind invitation to be present on the occasion
of the Twentieth Jubilee Convention of the National Federation of Federal
Employees, I am taking this method
The function of the media, like everything else in the United States,
revolves around money. Forget about politics, this is big business. How many
books did Jon Stewart pimp on his show last year? He just pimped Don
Rumsfeld's new book - that should tell you everything you need to know about
the r
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
>
> Whatever their benefits in the private sector, unions were never meant for
> the public sector. It is a travesty that collective bargaining was ever
> allowed, and now the states are paying for it.
What makes you say that unions were never
Whatever their benefits in the private sector, unions were never meant for
the public sector. It is a travesty that collective bargaining was ever
allowed, and now the states are paying for it.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:55 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> That pretty much sums it up for me.
>
>
>
> On W
Really? The same media who has been blind to all of the suffering in
Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and all of the other Arab countries currently
undergoing revolution? It's like these countries did not exist till now. At
least their problems didn't.
I think you're limiting your perception to the few (bu
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> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:29
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
> >
> >
> > I don't know, I've seen the Wisconsin story on all the ou
rch 02, 2011 08:40
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
>
>
> You sound as insane as the guy in the link you posted.
>
> So, now ALL media has a conservative bias? Do you have any idea how
> ridiculous that sounds?
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:20 A
een is them talking about
> is the death of unions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:29
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
>
>
> I don't know, I&#
:39
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
Who owns them isn't the same as who runs them. Look at who the editors are
look at the personal bias of the reporters both left and right.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.co
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From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:40
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
You sound as insane as the guy in the link you posted.
So, now ALL media has a conservative bias? Do you have any idea how
ridiculous that
esday, March 02, 2011 08:29
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
>
>
> I don't know, I've seen the Wisconsin story on all the outlets I follow,
> liberal and conservative.
>
> I think the author's bias (and Eric's) is obvious in th
LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:29
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
I don't know, I've seen the Wisconsin story on all the outlets I follow,
liberal and conservative.
I think the author's bias (and Eric'
t; of liberals.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:26
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
>
>
> To me, this thread is not about unions, its about one person'
tt...it certainly isn't a bunch
> of liberals.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:26
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
>
>
> To me, this thread is not
Look at who runs the media and owns them Scott...it certainly isn't a bunch
of liberals.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 08:26
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This pretty much sums it up...
To me, this thread is not
I don't know, I've seen the Wisconsin story on all the outlets I follow,
liberal and conservative.
I think the author's bias (and Eric's) is obvious in this instance.
As to dj kc im at a loss
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> To me, this thread is not about unions, its ab
To me, this thread is not about unions, its about one person's
perception of how the media is handling a situation involving unions.
A subtle, but important distinction.
I find it funny (in a sad, pathetic way) that when conservatives say
the media has a liberal bias they quickly discounted/discr
wow, see what unions do to people
wheres the plur?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Wow...only the 2nd reply to this thread and you started the insults
> already.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Casey Dougall
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Scott Str
Wow...only the 2nd reply to this thread and you started the insults already.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Casey Dougall
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>
>> To me, it sounds as if his tin foil hat is on a bit too tight.
>>
>>
>
> I'll take a tin foil hat over
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> To me, it sounds as if his tin foil hat is on a bit too tight.
>
>
I'll take a tin foil hat over your dunce cap anyday.
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To me, it sounds as if his tin foil hat is on a bit too tight.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> http://www.truth-out.org/the-liberal-media-strikes-again68115
>
>
>
>
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