Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
"I'm Rick Perry, Mofo!" http://www.ksat.com/news/4638422/detail.html --- On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:17 PM, Marlon Moyer scribed: --- > > Rick Perry isn't right leaning enough for the Republicans. Afterall, > he started out as a Democrat. Plus, he's crossing some of the > Republicans down her

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-23 Thread Marlon Moyer
It's funny, because McCain and Perry are probably two Republicans I wouldn't mind seeing in the oval office. On 6/22/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, he has the same problem as McCain- can't make the right wing happy. And > I don't really see the Republicans picking another Texa

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Robert Munn
Yeah, he has the same problem as McCain- can't make the right wing happy. And I don't really see the Republicans picking another Texan for '08. Still, there just are not a whole lot of legitimate looking contenders at this point. >Rick Perry isn't right leaning enough for the Republicans. Afte

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread William Bowen
Oh sh!t, everybody step back for the lightning! :-P On 6/22/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree! > > On 6/22/05, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Given the way this country subsidizes gas prices, it probably would be > > best if gas were allowed to climb to what it is in the rest of the > >

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > Given the way this country subsidizes gas prices, it probably would be > best if gas were allowed to climb to what it is in the rest of the > world. > But those prices are taxes not market forces. ~| Find out ho

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I forgot, you're always right and everyone else is a mindless clone. > Just don't let it happen again. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffus

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2005-06-22 Thread Sam
I agree! On 6/22/05, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Given the way this country subsidizes gas prices, it probably would be > best if gas were allowed to climb to what it is in the rest of the > world. > > larry ~| Discover CFTicket -

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given the way this country subsidizes gas prices, it probably would be best if gas were allowed to climb to what it is in the rest of the world. larry On 6/22/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Matt this thread has completely wasted my afternoon :) keep up > the fight...oh and R

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Adam Haskell
Thanks Matt this thread has completely wasted my afternoon :) keep up the fight...oh and Rising gas prices are needed in america we pay a rediculously low ammount for fuel...I'm glad its up I hope it goes higher. Adam H On 6/22/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot, you're always right an

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
I forgot, you're always right and everyone else is a mindless clone. On 6/22/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > I think they need 60 Republicans for that. > > > > They need 60 clones for that. Just Republicans won't do it - Sen > Voinovich proved that.

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I think they need 60 Republicans for that. > They need 60 clones for that. Just Republicans won't do it - Sen Voinovich proved that. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficien

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
I think they need 60 Republicans for that. On 6/22/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > The Republicans OWN the Congress and presidency! They shouldn't need > the Dems for *anything*. The fact that the President can't get a UN > ambassador appointed shows how foolish his decisions are. >

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2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Or a President that has tough choices, like imigration and Social > Security. Also remember when Clinton was Pres the Republicans worked > with him even before they won control. The Dems on the other hand > refuse to cross part lines even as a minority. > The Republicans OWN the Co

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
Or a President that has tough choices, like imigration and Social Security. Also remember when Clinton was Pres the Republicans worked with him even before they won control. The Dems on the other hand refuse to cross part lines even as a minority. On 6/22/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Brian wrote: >

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
Because the Dems brought out 12% more voters using Soros and Moore while Bush increased his voters 20% and won more Governors, Senators and Congressman. In other words the Dems pulled out all the stops to replace Bush and not only did he win but his but most Dems lost including Daschle. On 6/22/0

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > But relatively speaking, that's higher than a lot of presidents. 60% is a > high turnout for a US presidential election. > Polls go up and down, but what they reflect in this case is a mediocre to poor President. Which is why prominent conservatives from the Reagan-Bush era have

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
Or if a French-like loser doesn't win and hand your country over to the UN. On 6/22/05, G wrote: > You only "win", as a voter in an election, if your candidate successfully > carries out the mandate you intended with your votes. ~~

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I don't think you're following along :) > I'm following, I was just commenting on the use of "we're" in your reply as if you have anything to do with Mr. Bush or his allies. If you think you do then Mr. Bush simply duped you into voting for him. It's kind of like a robbery victim

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
When less than a third of the population supports the person by voting for him, how is that a mandate. Over 60 or 70% is a mandate, 30.6% is a tepid approval by a minority. American Idol got a better response than that. larry On 6/22/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But relatively speaking, tha

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
But relatively speaking, that's higher than a lot of presidents. 60% is a high turnout for a US presidential election. >I found it very ironic that he was claiming a mandate, when his vote > was barely 51%. Given that only 60% of the eligible population voted, > he had a mandate of around 30%. >

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I found it very ironic that he was claiming a mandate, when his vote was barely 51%. Given that only 60% of the eligible population voted, he had a mandate of around 30%. larry On 6/22/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bush won with over 50% of the popular vote. His current approval rating is >

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
Bush won with over 50% of the popular vote. His current approval rating is well below 50%. I wonder if there are currently some Bush voters debating whether they actually "won" or not. You only "win", as a voter in an election, if your candidate successfully carries out the mandate you intended

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
I don't think you're following along :) Larry was talking about "rabid pro shrub types", which I think he means anyone that voted against Kerry. Anyway, people that keep voting Republican and getting the candidate they selected are winners as opposed to those whose candidates lose. This in no way

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > As long as you keep thinking we're idiots we'll keep winning. Remember the old saying, "if you have to ask you can't afford it?" That's kind of like Feynman's quote about quantum physics: "If you say you understand quantum mechanics, you don't." Which is like my quote about polit

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course given that the republican congress at the time prevented the president to intervene had nothing to do with it. Unlike the current Iraq conflict where the same party controlled the executive and legislative branches. Now its Iraq, the Dar Fur region, western Africa, Haiti, just to name

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Kevin Graeme
Not mean enough. On 6/22/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a riddle for you :) > If the Dems are so smart why do they keep losing? ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for d

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Marlon Moyer
Rick Perry isn't right leaning enough for the Republicans. Afterall, he started out as a Democrat. Plus, he's crossing some of the Republicans down here in Texas. On 6/22/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frist would be a disaster as a candidate. One thing the article by Brooks > hig

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread SStewart
Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 01:09 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: W usurps the throne Importance: Low Frist would be a disaster as a candidate. One thing the article by Brooks highlights is that Senators have a very bad tra

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
I don't see the shift to the right. Many on the right thing W is too Liberal, not defending the borders and excessive spending. The Red States Right Wing is more of a "Don't force Gay culture on me with" revolt rather than a true Right-wing movement. The Gay movement was too aggressive too quickly

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Robert Munn
Frist would be a disaster as a candidate. One thing the article by Brooks highlights is that Senators have a very bad track record of late when running for President. So who to call on? No one in the House has the standing, IMO, to make a serious run. Republican Governors? Arnold can't run. Je

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
He's considered too Liberal. He openly supports partial birth abortion, which is a big negative for the right wing. He also indorsed Cuomo over Pataki and has close ties to Liberals. He's also not a good public speaker, too ruff around the edges. His true quality is he takes no shit and gets things

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
Part of it is due to Dem ineptness, but i also think there has been a genuine shift to the right among the US population in recent years. Put the two together, and you've got a GOP stronghold. I wouldn't strut around too much thoughDem's won't remain in disarray for long, and shifts in any

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Sam
Here's a riddle for you :) If the Dems are so smart why do they keep losing? The Presidency, Congress Senate and Governors. As long as you keep thinking we're idiots we'll keep winning. Hehehehe Some people just can't learn :) At the rate the Dems are going they won't be a major party in 2012 and i

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread William Bowen
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Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread loathe
and the kids in mena. Somalia Kosovo what was his aids name that 'killed' himself? Loathe C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: >>Remember when Clinton lied no one died. > > > Except for those poor folks in the asprin factory. > > Hatton > > ~~

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> SStewart wrote: > And Frist is way more conservative so I'm sure he'll get the nod from the > Rich, White > "Christian Right" . > Mr. Frist shouldn't and hopefully will never get the nomination. Nobody has said it better than David Brooks: June 19, 2005 What Makes Bill Frist Run? By DAVID B

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Kevin Graeme
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Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
He still has to get through the nomination process. That's where the party faithful rule. Typically what happens is that (depending on the party) the more sucessful primary candidates are more reactionary/radical than the mainstream. This reflects who votes in the primaries. The typical voter in th

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
Perhaps, but then it that all rides on how the public perceives him. Guiliani might not get the repub nomination for the reasons you stated. But the average american isn't going to bristle at these "improprieties" quite as much, and he remains an extremely popular (sympathetic?) figure from Sept

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
McCain has already stated that what happened to him in South Caroline in 2000 will not happen again. So if Frist wants to follow the same route mapped out for Bush by Reid and the Christian Coalition, he will be making a very big mistake. larry On 6/22/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not sure of that. Guiliani has too much baggage for the republican right wing christian fundimentalists - in his last 2 years as mayor of NYC he went through a very messy divorce while living with his now current wife. There are also some accusations of some quite shady deals he was involved in

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread SStewart
Fax: (703) 834-5527 -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:28 am To: CF-Community Subject: Re: W usurps the throne Importance: Low Unfortunately its the special interest groups that are pouring money into the parties. Eliminate

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
Has Guiliani decided not to run? He'd probably have the best chance at keeping the GOP in the white house, though I truly believe our next prez is a democrat. > Unfortunately its the special interest groups that are pouring money > into the parties. Eliminate the need to cater to the SIG's for >

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
> 704-973-1045 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:09 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: W usurps the throne > > How about McCain/Clinton vs Cheney/Ashcroft. &g

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Much less than the estimated 15,000 civilians in Iraq so far. On 6/22/05, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember when Clinton lied no one died. > > Except for those poor folks in the asprin factory. > > Hatton > > ~~

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread SStewart
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2005-06-22 Thread SStewart
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RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
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RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:57 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: W usurps the throne > > W's a pretty good politician, but he'd be absolutely no match for the grand > champion of polit

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread SStewart
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Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:57 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: W usurps the throne > > W's a pretty good politician, but he'd be absolutely no match for the grand > champion of politics a

re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matthew Small wrote: > > So, who agrees with me that we should completely eliminate the Constitution > and appoint W as the new King of the World Empire? Why would you want to eliminate it when you can just ignore it? Jochem ~|

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Remember when Clinton lied no one died. Except for those poor folks in the asprin factory. Hatton ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/vi

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Jim Davis
> >> So, who agrees with me that we should completely eliminate the > > Constitution > >> and appoint W as the new King of the World Empire? > >> "A girl of ancient name will marry a man of noble birth and together they will rule our world... and their son will rule the universe." So... the only

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
Along with the rabid anti-bush zombies, i'd say a nice large percentage of the population is ahead of the game in the labotomy department. Bush, more than any other figure I've seen in my (relatively short) lifetime, has the ability to invoke such passion in people as to have it overshadow thei

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
? Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: W usurps the throne W's a pretty good politician, but he

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
all > Web Developer > American City Business Journals > 704-973-1045 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:49 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: W usurps the thron

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think it would require mass lobotomies. Mind you given how some rabid pro shrub types act, they're already ahead of the game, with complete brain removals. larry On 6/22/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's really slow today. > > > > So, who agrees with me that we should compl

Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread G
> Matthew Small > Web Developer > American City Business Journals > 704-973-1045 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:49 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: W usur

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
, June 22, 2005 10:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: W usurps the throne Absofuckinlutely! Booyah! Along those lines I fully support the bill introduced in the House to revoke the 22nd Amendment. On 6/22/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's really slow today. >

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2005-06-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Kevin Graeme
Absofuckinlutely! Booyah! Along those lines I fully support the bill introduced in the House to revoke the 22nd Amendment. On 6/22/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's really slow today. > > > > So, who agrees with me that we should completely eliminate the Constitution > and a

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
Maybe I missed the press release. Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:45 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: W usurps the throne

RE: W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Dawson, Michael
Do you mean that hasn't already happened? M!ke -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: W usurps the throne It's really slow today. So, who agrees with me that we should completely

W usurps the throne

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew Small
It's really slow today. So, who agrees with me that we should completely eliminate the Constitution and appoint W as the new King of the World Empire? Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~