People call me stubborn, but I refuse to listen to them.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, GMoney wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Medic wrote:
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> > I've never debated that Jobs did some thing that had a large impact on a
> > lot
> > of people. So I guess we're in agreement the
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I've never debated that Jobs did some thing that had a large impact on a
> lot
> of people. So I guess we're in agreement then.
>
>
We usually are, we're just too stupid/stubborn to realize it :)
We probably just have a slightly different take o
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:23 PM, GMoney wrote:
> Steve Jobs was the greatest person who ever lived.
>
> (thread revived :)
>
Stop it or I will threaten you with a pantless hug too.
-Cameron
...
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>
> You mean my Jobs=Someone who did some things that had a large impact on a
> lot of people stance?
>
I've never debated that Jobs did some thing that had a large impact on a lot
of people. So I guess we're in agreement then.
~~~
Steve Jobs was the greatest person who ever lived.
(thread revived :)
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> Note to self: I think I just invented a whole new way to kill threads.
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> Nice...
>
> -Cameron
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> > B
Note to self: I think I just invented a whole new way to kill threads.
Nice...
-Cameron
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
> BAAHH
>
> elle macpherson
> elle macpherson
> elle macpherson
BAAHH
elle macpherson
elle macpherson
elle macpherson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Medic wrote:
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>> I'm in.
>>
>> Do I need to be wearing pants?
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>
> It depends on which way you are facing during the h
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Medic wrote:
> I'm in.
>
> Do I need to be wearing pants?
It depends on which way you are facing during the hug.
Ewww
-Cameron
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in this case, probably so.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I'm in.
>
> Do I need to be wearing pants?
>
>
> Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Anthony Weeg wrote:
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>>
>> iHug time boys ... it will change the world ... one warm and fuzzy at a
>> time :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone..
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Medic wrote:
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> >
> > *sigh*
> >
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> I was just thinking the same thing.
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> > Spoken like someone who's never read any of my posts on this listso
> > i'll
> > just let it go.
> >
>
> I've read a shit-ton of your posts. I was rather surprised by your stanc
I'm in.
Do I need to be wearing pants?
Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Anthony Weeg wrote:
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> iHug time boys ... it will change the world ... one warm and fuzzy at a
> time :)
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> Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.
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> On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Medic wrote:
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> >
> >>
> >> Meh. Whatevs.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Anthony Weeg wrote:
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> iHug time boys ... it will change the world ... one warm and fuzzy at a
> time :)
>
Yup.
-Cameron
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Yeah, but will it change a diaper?
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Weeg wrote:
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> iHug time boys ... it will change the world ... one warm and fuzzy at a time
> :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.
>
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iHug time boys ... it will change the world ... one warm and fuzzy at a time :)
Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.
On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Medic wrote:
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>> Meh. Whatevs. Not important.
>>
>
> I find it kind of important. You're zeroing in my single use of the word
> sheeple, cla
>
> Meh. Whatevs. Not important.
>
I find it kind of important. You're zeroing in my single use of the word
sheeple, classifying me as being a person that's negative to the greatest
possible degree, then replying with "meh" when I take exception to your
classification.
~~~
>
> *sigh*
>
I was just thinking the same thing.
> Spoken like someone who's never read any of my posts on this listso
> i'll
> just let it go.
>
I've read a shit-ton of your posts. I was rather surprised by your stance on
this whole Jobs=God thing in fact.
Nice.
>
Indeed. A great PDA.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Medic wrote:
> I guess. I wouldn't call it "uber-negativity" though, to be able to
> identify
> band-wagoners. Negativity, perhaps. Realism is probably more accurate.
>
Meh. Whatevs. Not important.
-Cameron
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
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> Here's some examples. Columbus changed the world. Einstein changed the
> world. 9/11 changed the world.
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> Interesting that you identify yourself as one of the sheeple. I was
> actually referring to the extreme fanbois who regard Jobs a
I guess. I wouldn't call it "uber-negativity" though, to be able to identify
band-wagoners. Negativity, perhaps. Realism is probably more accurate.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Medic wrote:
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> > I see. I either think Jobs is a
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I see. I either think Jobs is a God, or I'm a hater.
No, I just see terms like "sheeple" and "tea bagger" as being really filled
with an intent of hate and uber-negativity.
Sure, I have my moments too, but I'm kinda over all that right now.
-C
I see. I either think Jobs is a God, or I'm a hater.
I bet you were gutted to find that black mock turtle necks are on back
order.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Medic wrote:
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> > I don't dislike Jobs or Apple. I just don't th
Here's some examples. Columbus changed the world. Einstein changed the world.
9/11 changed the world.
Interesting that you identify yourself as one of the sheeple. I was actually
referring to the extreme fanbois who regard Jobs as a God-like figure. I wasn't
referring to you at all. I guess th
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> ok, just checking.
>
> and you dislike them and wish you had a Droid and a PC laptop?
I had an iPhone, replaced it with an Android device. There has not
been one instance where I have regretted that decision. Not a single
thing the iPhone o
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Medic wrote:
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> I love the iPhone. The MBP I'm indifferent towards and only actually have
> it
> because I'm a director in a marketing agency and that's what my role
> demands.
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> I don't dislike Jobs or Apple. I just don't think Steve Jobs changed the
> world
he changed the geek world...
did he change the world for people in the sahara desert, nope.
but his work and his vision has changed my life... for sure!
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I love the iPhone. The MBP I'm indifferent towards and only actually have it
> because I'm
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Medic wrote:
> I don't dislike Jobs or Apple. I just don't think Steve Jobs changed the
> world and so many sheeple seem to be saying in the wake of his death.
Hate is bad for you.
-Cameron
...
~~
I love the iPhone. The MBP I'm indifferent towards and only actually have it
because I'm a director in a marketing agency and that's what my role
demands.
I don't dislike Jobs or Apple. I just don't think Steve Jobs changed the
world and so many sheeple seem to be saying in the wake of his death.
ok, just checking.
and you dislike them and wish you had a Droid and a PC laptop?
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Medic wrote:
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> I have an iPhone 4 and a MBP.
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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>> yo dj medic
>>
>> do you, or have you... had an iphone? macbookpr
I have an iPhone 4 and a MBP.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> yo dj medic
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> do you, or have you... had an iphone? macbookpro? ipod?
>
> just wondering.
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Medic wrote:
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> > You're jumping to conclusions. Show me where I've said:
yo dj medic
do you, or have you... had an iphone? macbookpro? ipod?
just wondering.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Medic wrote:
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> You're jumping to conclusions. Show me where I've said:
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> a) I'm not impressed with Steve Jobs' accomplishments
> b) That I don't recognize the impact his wo
Perhaps you all should define what "world" means to each of you - then you
might come to better terms with what some of you are saying to each other
:)
There's quite a difference in the definition of "world" for many people.
Did Jobs make a difference and/or change the :
Fashion world? maybe, i
You're jumping to conclusions. Show me where I've said:
a) I'm not impressed with Steve Jobs' accomplishments
b) That I don't recognize the impact his work has had on the world [of
technology]
That's a far cry from "Steve Jobs has changed the world." He's played a part
in changing personal compu
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Medic wrote:
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> You can most certainly make an impact on something without changing it.
>
> You really think Steve Jobs changed the world then G?
>
Of course he did...it's not even a question that bears asking. If you can't
be impressed with the accomplishments
See...that is not the case for me. For what I use my computers for,
neither really 'just works' (they just require different kinds of
coddling) and neither really does things much better than the other.
So, in my opinion, Macs are not worth the extra money since the
experience is the same.
Hell t
What matters to me is individual cases...more precisely, my individual
cases. My experience has shown me that Macs are not worth the extra
money, nor have they been more reliable. If I bought a Honda that
turned out to be a lemon, or even required more maintenance than other
cars I have owned, odd
Another generalized comment. One of the reasons why we chose Macs for
HCRI was that they simply worked, and did not get in the way of the
person trying to do that work. That's the same reason why I use CF
rather than PHP for instance.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> You
You are arguing individual cases rather than numbers. Year after year,
the Mac lineup are rated the most reliable systems well beyond Dell
and other PC brands. Case studies are interesting but they do not tell
much other than the individual experience.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Scott Stroz
I never said he convinced everyone.
There are people I know who I believe would line up outside an Apple
store overnight to buy horse manure if Steve Jobs packaged it up
pretty and called it iShit. You obviously are not one of those people,
but that does not mean they do not exist.
I use both Wi
I remember picking up my first Apple II computer at the store. It didn't
even have a hard drive. I had been working with computers of various sorts
for several years, including a Zilog Z-80, so the concept of a micro
computer was not alien to me. But the Apple was just so cool and I loved it
im
I see an age divide in how IT people perceive Apple:
My over 50 geek friends, in general, love apple.
All under 30 love apple or at least see it as a viable product even they have
an android.
My 35-50 IT friends split about 60% for, 40% against. Those against have a
chip on their shoulder an
He didn't convince me of anything. He made a nice, reliable product and I
bought them. The idea that buying a product constitutes brainwashing is
laughable. I've owned a lot of Fords and several Hondas for the same reason
- they provide something I need - in this case, transportation, and they
As for his arrogance, I can sum up how I got that in one sentence:
"You're holding it wrong" - which was Jobs' reply to people who
complained about dropped calls and antenna problems with the iPhone 4.
My MacBook Pro has been very reliable. However, it has not been more
reliable than any other co
It's time again to throw the religion label at the atheists :)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/apple-is-a-new-religion-and-steve-jobs-was-its-high-priest/2011/10/07/gIQAjYlgTL_story_1.html
.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> I would disagree. Snake oil salesmen sell
I would disagree. Snake oil salesmen sell products that don't work. One of
the main reasons I buy Apple products is that they are reliable. They do
what they are designed to and do it well. If other computer manufacturers
want to emulate Jobs, that quality is what they should strive for.
I'm s
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> I wasn't aware how closely you'd worked with him over the years.
>
> Anyway Tyler pretty much says it right in his summary here:
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> http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-died-today/
What exactly does he say? That he is a fanboy?
I will a
I wasn't aware how closely you'd worked with him over the years.
Anyway Tyler pretty much says it right in his summary here:
http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-died-today/
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> The only lives he truly changed were those of Apple shareholde
The only lives he truly changed were those of Apple shareholders.
He was more of a cult leader than anything else.
Lastly, the fact that the man died of cancer does not negate the fact
that he was a douche bag.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> 1.) brought technology to the
He had an impact in all those industries, sure. He was part of creating a
new paradigm. So along with IBM, Xerox, Bill Gates, James Cameron and dozens
of others. He didn't change the world, and none of this was single handed.
Wise up indeed.
He surely was a great business man and a wonderful mark
1.) brought technology to the average person en masse, single-handedly
inventing the consumer electronics industry
2.) brought "it should be easy" to all consumer design as a core principle
3.) changed the advertising industry
4.) changed the movie industry
5.) changed the music industry
6.)
s a friend said earlier today; "Ten years ago we still had Bob Hope, Johnny
Cash and Steve Jobs with us - now we have no jobs, no cash, and no hope."
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Medic wrote:
> You really think Steve Jobs changed the world then G?
Depends, were they the first ones with the patents or did they buy them?
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You can most certainly make an impact on something without changing it.
You really think Steve Jobs changed the world then G?
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM, GMoney wrote:
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> how so?
>
> in order to "impact" something, you have to affect change in itdont
> you?
> If you didn't affec
how so?
in order to "impact" something, you have to affect change in itdont you?
If you didn't affect change in somethngyou didn't "impact" it.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I didn't deny he had an impact on the world. I said I don't think it's
> right
> to say
geeez folks...i hate apple more than anyone, hate macs, hate iphones,can do
without the whole damn thing..but even i recognize the innovative genius
behind Steve jobs...to argue anything else just makes ya look silly.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Casey Dougall <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.
I didn't deny he had an impact on the world. I said I don't think it's right
to say he "changed" the world.
Two very different things.
To deny that is either trollbait, or ignorance, or both.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Medic w
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Cars existed before Ford as well. For that matter North America
> existed before Columbus.
>
> the point is that Jobs made it available to people not just a small elite.
>
That's questionable, gadgets like iPhone, iPads as elitist product
No, he made it a fashion must have.
And for that he was a master.
He's was more of a great marketer than innovator.
Even the original Apples, he gave them to schools for free so
graduates would buy them.
Didn't work but it was a damn good try.
.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons w
Cars existed before Ford as well. For that matter North America
existed before Columbus.
the point is that Jobs made it available to people not just a small elite.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Sam wrote:
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> MP3 players existed long before the ipod and the only thing creative
> about the iph
Spoken like a true fanboy.
Don't hate.
.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Medic wrote:
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>> I know I'm not part of the popular crowd by asking this... but other than
>> make some cool hardware what did Jobs really do to "change the
MP3 players existed long before the ipod and the only thing creative
about the iphone was the touch screen. I can still do without that,
hate touching the screen and then putting it up to my ear.
.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:51 PM, PT wrote:
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> The Sony Walkman was more innovative than the iPod
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Maureen wrote:
> You seem to forgot the original Apple computer, which was much more
> significant the iPod or iPhone.
NeXT, Pixar, Windows.
Had a hand in all of the above, and much much more.
-Cameron
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Medic wrote:
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> I know I'm not part of the popular crowd by asking this... but other than
> make some cool hardware what did Jobs really do to "change the world?"
>
I would compare him perhaps to Henry Ford as far as the scope of change and
helping to define an i
That's a nice story, and I'm sure it's make a big impact on the people with
the stutter, but it's a far cry from changing the world. And wouldn't you
give more credit to the people who actually did the research on that
project?
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> What did
The Sony Walkman was more innovative than the iPod and had more of a
cultural impact in its day. I don't think the iPod and iPhone will
contribute to all that much in the long run. Those are products that
had to exist sooner or later. Jobs & Co. just did them first, wrapped
them in a pretty
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> I cannot say about the entire world, but for the world of these people
> the Mac certainly changed their world for the better.
>
To each our own, I personally believe Panasonic Technics 1200 turntable is
more revolutionary then any apple p
What did he do tho change the world?
Consider this. After I finished my master's degree I was awarded a
fellowship to develop a computer based version of a stuttering therapy
system. Because of an Apple grant, we were given 25 Mac Pluses (OK I'm
dating myself here), a couple of Mac II servers and
First he got everyone to repurchase music they already owned.
Then he got half the world to pay the phone companies for 24/7
internet to cover us when we're not at work or home. Now a large
portion is paying another round of internet fees for iPad because
sometime a phone is too small and a lapto
For my part (and I'm not a huge Steve Jobs fan), I'd say it boils down
to two things:
1. He did an amazing job demonstrating that people can enact change
and turn a vision into reality through force of will.
2. The Apple Human Interface Guidelines.
Number two is more far reaching, I think. Job
You seem to forgot the original Apple computer, which was much more
significant the iPod or iPhone.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Medic wrote:
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> I know I'm not part of the popular crowd by asking this... but other than
> make some cool hardware what did Jobs really do to "change the world?
I know I'm not part of the popular crowd by asking this... but other than
make some cool hardware what did Jobs really do to "change the world?"
Everyone keeps saying he changed the way we live, but I don't see it. Maybe
for super dedicated fanbois, but for the average Joe? What did it do? You
hav
C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
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> http://xkcd.com/961/
>
> As obscure as it is, once I "got it" I thought it was a beautiful thing.
>
Very cool. The guy did so much to change so many things for the
better and was such an innovator ... and died before his time you can
see how religion gets started
It's very cool indeed.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
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> http://xkcd.com/961/
>
> As obscure as it is, once I "got it" I thought it was a beautiful thing.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> No trees were killed in the send
http://xkcd.com/961/
As obscure as it is, once I "got it" I thought it was a beautiful thing.
Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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