It has to do with Mach-II blowing all other frameworks away. That is,
except Java Server Faces and Struts.
Glad you cleared that up. ;)
-Matt
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Excuse me? MM is providing a handful of pre-built
gateways to begin with, much less having a consistent
interface provided by MM which allows others who are
Java knowledgeable to create, package and distribute
additional gateways. At which point, yes, it is a very
valid argument. The end
I am new to JMS, so be gentle :)
Wouldn't it be practical to use a cfmessage tag to set up a listener...
something like:
cfmessage
mode=SetListner
MessageType=queue or topic
MessageName= QueueName or TopicName
Component=path to CFC
Method=Function to invoke
/
Couldn't this be used to
At 01:46 PM 8/18/2004, you wrote:
It has to do with Mach-II blowing all other frameworks away. That is,
except Java Server Faces and Struts.
Glad you cleared that up. ;)
I'm sorry...I just can't help myself. As I was typing the above response, I could see a red-faced FuseBoxer knee-deep in a
SELECT TO_CHAR(t.startdate,'hh24:mi:ss') AS starttime,
TO_CHAR(t.finishdate,'hh24:mi:ss') AS finishtime, LPAD(taskid,5),
startdate, finishdate
FROM TASK t
WHERE
TO_DATE('08/21/2004','mm/dd/') = TRUNC(t.startdate)
AND TO_DATE('08/21/2004','mm/dd/') = TRUNC(t.finishdate)
AND
Nothing wrong with Fusebox. Nothing wrong with any framework or
methodology... Whatever works for ya.
Michael T. Tangorre
I'm sorry...I just can't help myself. As I was typing the
above response, I could see a red-faced FuseBoxer knee-deep
in a nested circuit just blowing a gasket at the
That would mean the app server would have to poll the message queue and then
invoke a CFC as needed, which could certainly work. However, then you would
still need some other application to respond to 3rd party events and put
them on the queue. At that point, if seems easier just to have a gateway
Didn't realize it was in that context... but okay -- since I read the
other one where you quoted the context you were speaking within
specifically -- the _minor_ revision then is -- if you don't like the
way the pre-built gateways work, buy or use one someone else has
built, which is still a
Sorry if this has been discussed but I'm finding that in the following CFSELECT code, the selected=8 parameter has no bearing on the default pulldown that's selected when the page is visited.It appears to basically be broken and a useless parameter.Have others seen this? Or is this a pilot error?
Why? They're all fine frameworks. No gasket-blowing in sight (unless
one considers your random irrational generalizations as blowing a
gasket).
- Original Message -
From: Alexander Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:53:19 -0400
Subject: RE: BLACKSTONE: Software
I have a table that I transferred from Access to SQL and had a field
setup as auto number. Now I am getting an error message when I try to
submit new info to the table in SQL.
Here's the error:
ODBC Error Code = 23000 (Integrity constraint violation)
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL
I know why you are getting the results you are getting but I do not have enough information regarding your data to provide a solution yet.
If you add t.paidthru in your group by clause then it will get multiple entries (a cross-join), but if you leave it out you will get invalid group by errors.
I don't use CFSELECT, but when using a regular HTML Select box, the selected keyword would go on the option tag:
select name=SelectBox
option value=1 selected Option 1 is selected
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From: CF Coder2
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject:
Hmmm...the answer to that is unclear, and depends on your perspective and
what features you need most. If you rely heavily on Flash integration, then
my guess is the ColdFusion will always be a better choice than BlueDragon.
On the other hand, if you're looking for ASP.NET integration (for
SQL Server manages auto-incremented fields differently than Access does. I believe you have to go into SQL Server Enterprise Manager and modify that field in the table so that SQL Server knows it is an autonumber field.
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From: Donna French
To: CF-Talk
Sent:
On Aug 18, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
This brings me to the event gateway, which is supposed to liberate
CFML from
HTTP. Sure there are tons of reasons why you would want to have a
CFML-based
web application integrate with protocols other than HTTP. I have
integrated
CFML-based
To state the obvious, I would urge caution on pre-judging Blackstone before it's released.What has been talked about is just the surface of this release.
Regards,
Damon
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This is from the documentation
attributes: selected(Optional) -A list of option values to preselect
in the selection list. This attribute applies only if list items are
generated from a query. The cfform preservedata attribute value can
override this value.
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From: CF
To further that, I have no inside knowledge about Blackstone and my
perspective is completely based on public information. While all this is
purely speculation at this point it should at least give something for
Macromedia to think about, which in the end should benefit us all.
-Matt
I read 3 different books on CFSELECT and none of them had this little tid-bit about it applying only when items are generated from a query.
Thanks for the info Qasim!!That is the answer I needed.
cfcoder2
This is from the documentation
attributes: selected(Optional) -A list of option values to
That is a fair argument, but I think it is too early to tell whether
the event gateway will provide this consistency.
In that case, isn't it too early to be having this discussion? Or at least,
to expect it to be a meaningful discussion?
Again, the framework it provides could be great, but
I wasn't clear:
I didn't mean to replace the event gateway with a cfmessage tag.
Rather, use a cf tag construct to setup a listener- processor
relationship that the event gateway uses.
This would not change the way the event gateway interface JMS.
It just allow the user define the interface
In that case, isn't it too early to be having this discussion? Or at
least,
to expect it to be a meaningful discussion?
Not at all! This is the perfect time to air concerns regarding Blackstone as
it allows Macromedia time to address them before the product ships if they
choose to. They may
NDA reminder here for anyone under NDA.
Thanks
In that case, isn't it too early to be having this discussion? Or at
Not at all! This is the perfect time to air concerns regarding Blackstone as
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On Aug 18, 2004, at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To state the obvious, I would urge caution on pre-judging Blackstone
before it's released. What has been talked about is just the surface
of this release.
Well, the autumnal equinox is Sept 22-23, so Fall 2004 is
I have read articles much like this before.With the other log I am
currently outputting, I am using JVMSTAT right now to watch garbage
collection and see if I see any similarities.Is there anything else
you or someone else knows of that I should be looking for???
-Original Message-
I know why you are getting the results you are getting but I do not have enough information regarding your data to provide a solution yet.
If you add t.paidthru in your group by clause then it will get multiple entries (a cross-join), but if you leave it out you will get invalid
group by
Hi Marc,
>From the transaction table, I need the the most recent (highest number)
transactionID, the paidThru field (which may not always be the latest date,
see example snip in previous message), and if you need the memberID (which
corresponds to the memberID in the membershipList table).
Thanks for everyone's help on this.With some intense googling and some
off-list help, I have found the following to be exactly what I was looking
for.With some tweaks, it is going to be wicked sweet!
http://tutorial34.easycfm.com/
Ray
http://www.crystalvision.org
At 01:45 PM 8/18/2004, you
Ray
That looks pretty good.
My only comment is: if you have large log files, you may not be able to
read them into a variable with cffile.
If that is the case, you could easily implement a line reader with
cfobject
That's what I had to do (with help) to read my iTunes song library.
This was
Peter,the Old Generation garbage collection was over 500mb.I have a
screen shot and logs with a stack trace dump, but I don't know what to
do from here.Will you take a look or can you tell me who can help???
As soon as I restart the service, via command prompt right now so that I
can watch gc, the
You are missing the context of the thread though.
Maybe I am. I don't think so, but it's always possible. :) This thread has
been very long, and, as most mailing list conversations go, it's covered
quite a bit of territory.
The original statement was as follows.
Which itself was a reply to
I remember your posts back a few weeks ago discussing this, but I didn't
have any reason to keep up with the thread, as I have never used cfobject,
but right now things are slow and I am tackling things that have been on
the back burner here (hence this low-priority project), so if you don't
Ray, here's the line reader that Joe Rinehart suggested (with a slight
mod).
Enjoy!
Dick
Hey Joe
Your No Class Reader Works Great!
much faster than the other! (almost as fast as a cffile read of
the
entire file).
I simplified the EOF test so I could use a While loop.
Thanks
Dick
Here's
Christian Watt wrote:
Peter,the Old Generation garbage collection was over 500mb.I have a
screen shot and logs with a stack trace dump, but I don't know what to
do from here.Will you take a look or can you tell me who can help???
As soon as I restart the service, via command prompt right now
Just wanted to say thanks - changed the field in Enterprise Manager.
Thank you!!!
Donna French
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From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Access SQL Question
SQL Server manages auto-incremented fields
This should work.. I hope
Lets get away from the idea of an aggregate and just use a subquery then
SELECT m.memberID, m.firstname, m.lastname,
t.transactionID as maxTransactionID,
t.paidthru as paidthru
FROM members m
INNER JOIN trans t ON m.memberID = t.memberID
WHERE transactionID = (SELECT
Not at all! This is the perfect time to air concerns regarding
Blackstone as it allows Macromedia time to address them before the
product ships if they choose to. They may have already addressed the
issue or they may not have thought of it. Better to be safe and discuss
it now.
I don't
I have a table that I transferred from Access to SQL and had a field
setup as auto number. Now I am getting an error message when I try to
submit new info to the table in SQL.
Yes You will need to go into SQL enterprise manager and make the col that was auto number in access to Identityyou
Is there a way in access where you can delete all the child of a
parent e.g. if I am deleting a record which a children and
children(s) may or may not have child. Here is db schema
id,name,parent
1,test1,0
2,test2,0
3,test3,1
4,test4,3
any help is appreciated
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Anyone know the trick to get utf-8 data stored in a database to display properly in cf-5?
I can display text in kanji and all the other languages fine, and can store them properly in the mysql database. When I display the data from the database in cf, they are displayed as squares.
I have seen
Marc,
YES! - that worked - thank you thank you many times for helping me.
mARK
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From: Marc Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Query problem
This should work.. I hope
Lets get away from the idea of an aggregate and
Marc,
YES! - that worked - thank you thank you many times for helping me.
mARK
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From: Marc Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Query problem
This should work.. I hope
Lets get away from the idea of an aggregate and
It appears that the SIZE attribute (with value = 2) is required for the preSelected option to work for the CFSELECT tag.
Sorry if this has been discussed but I'm finding that in the following
CFSELECT code, the selected=8 parameter has no bearing on the
default pulldown that's selected when
you want ti invoke a CFM or
CFC directly. from outside CFMX without theindirection/overhead of
listening for and triggering an event.
What would much more intersting IMHO would be the contrary:
Invoke external functions from CF just like if it was a CF function.
Yes, there are CFXs, but having
Hi -
Trying the most basic cfx tag to see if i can get one working.
When I try to compile the .java file (copied from ) i get the following errors:
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Hi -
Trying the most basic cfx tag to see if i can get one working.
When I try to compile the .java file (copied from ) i get the following errors
MyHelloColdFusion.java [11:1] package com.allaire.cfx does not exist
import com.allaire.cfx.* ;
^
MyHelloColdFusion.java [13:1] cannot resolve symbol
Joe,
Attach the code and the error message please.
rish
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From: joe velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfx_MyHelloColdFusion
Hi -
Trying the most basic cfx tag to see if i can get one working.
When I try to
Joe,
It appears as though you the cfx.jar is not in your class path.This JAR
contains all of the interface classes that the ColdFusion Server uses to
connect to your Java CFX.
For CFMX this can be located in the lib subdirectory of your server
installation.
For CF 5 you can locate this in the
see this message again .. for some reason the entire message was removed. i added a bunch of dashes to help make it easier to read. i've removed them so i hope reading the errors/code isn't too difficult for you. thanks.
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So, I have a question after playing around with this (wow is it much faster
than the easycfm way!):
I read up a little on cfscript, is it really true that there is no way to
use SQL queries inside a cfscript block?I am VERY new to cfscript, but I
thought that there was a way that has been
Trying the most basic cfx tag to see if i can get one working.
When I try to compile the .java file (copied from ) i get the following
errors
MyHelloColdFusion.java [11:1] package com.allaire.cfx does not exist
import com.allaire.cfx.* ;
You will need to add cfx.jar to your classpath, I
ok - let me play w/ the env. vars...
i also get similar errors (same w/o text from Sun One Studio) compling from the command line as: javac -classpath CFusionMX\lib\cfx.jar c:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\WEB-INF\classes\MyHelloColdFusion.java
joe
Joe,
It appears as though you the cfx.jar is not in your
holy crap!!! the compiling is fixed.
i tried this at the command line:
javac -classpath CFusionMX\lib\cfx.jar c:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\WEB-INF\classes\MyHelloColdFusion.java
when it should be
javac -classpath c:\CFusionMX\lib\cfx.jar c:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\WEB-INF\classes\MyHelloColdFusion.java
i
Try adding useUnicode=truecharacterEncoding=UTF8 to the connection
string field on the datasource's advanced settings page.I don't know
if CF5 has such a thing though, so you might not be able to.
cheers,
barneyb
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:37:46 -0400, dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone
In this Fusebox Conference interview Hal Helms interviews Steve Nelson on Fusedocs.
But first some news.
- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/
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* Only 30 days left before the conference!
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joe velez wrote:
When I try to compile the .java file (copied from ) i get the
following errors
MyHelloColdFusion.java [11:1] package com.allaire.cfx does not exist
you need to add cfx.jar to your classpath when you compile, eg:
javac -classpath c:\CFusionMX\lib\cfx.jar
Hi Gonz,
Thanks for your tip. Was struggling with this. Debugging would show on one website and not another. I tried your tip below and it works beautifully.
Dharmesh
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From: Gonzo Rock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:
I'm trying to use the Find and Replace feature of Dreamweaver using Regular Expressions.Either I'm doing something wrong or DW is totally brain dead when it comes to trying to use RE for this purpose.If this is the wrong forum, politely tell me where to go.
I'm trying to find take a list of words
How secure is a web form built with CF that (when submitted) INSERTS the data into a database with respect to someone hacking and accessing data from that database?Is it possible for an expert to place SQL code into text fields that will extract data in any way?
How can I guerantee that this
Use cfqueryparam...
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Thank Joe Rinehart -- he created the code.
As to executing a query within cfscript
Know you can't --- but you can fudge it
create a function (or CFC that issues the query based on a string
passed toit.The string contains the SQL statements).
within the script tag invoke the function which
I know this is true of HS+, so I assume it of Dreamweaver:
First, $ represents end of file, not end of line, so use whatever
literal linebreak your system or setup uses.
Second, backreferences are done using backslashes instead of dollar
signs, so use \1 instead of $1.
Finally, the regex you
...all i want is a normal bar graph with the bars different colors.. is that too much to ask ???
can you not use colorlist in type=bar?
http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/cfchart/?
this example is no help... its broke ... sigh
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cfqueryparam
On Aug 18, 2004, at 2:40 PM, CF Coder2 wrote:
How secure is a web form built with CF that (when submitted) INSERTS
the data into a database with respect to someone hacking and accessing
data from that database? Is it possible for an expert to place SQL
code into text fields
I will try that tomorrow - time to bust into a few 'adult beverages'
tonight.My wife and I bought our first house today...
Thanks (and thanks to Joe too),
Ray
At 05:44 PM 8/18/04, you wrote:
Thank Joe Rinehart -- he created the code.
As to executing a query within cfscript
Know you can't ---
I know this is true of HS+, so I assume it of Dreamweaver:
First, $ represents end of file, not end of line, so use whatever
literal linebreak your system or setup uses.
That's odd since the Help built in to DW states $ is end of line
Second, backreferences are done using backslashes instead of
Dear list,
Is there any way to CFUPDATE without using a form?I'd like to pass
the data as variables in the URL.
TIA,
CK.
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So is that adequate? What other best practices are there to ensure nothing can happen?
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Copy the data from the url scope to the form scope first:
cfset structAppend(form, url)
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From: Chris Kavanagh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2004 9:54 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFUPDATE-ing without a form?
Dear list,
Is there any way to CFUPDATE without using a
CFUPDATE expects the variables that it will be using to be in the form
scope. Just hand set the variables to that scope:
CFSET form.name=michael
CFUPDATE will treat name as if it came in on a form and make use of it.
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From: Chris Kavanagh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August
has anyone used the cfx_odbc tag before? i have the dll, but cant find how to use it. i know there is an ACTION parameter, and believe CREATE and DELETE are possible values. please provide a simple example if u can. thanks
it should be like
cfx_odbc action=''
..im also interested in a
CFQUERYPARAM will protect your database from SQL injection attacks.
If you need other things (such as XSS protection), then you'll have to
add some more code, usually as part of your validation code.
cheers,
barneyb
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:58:08 -0400, CF Coder2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK...
-get the values for each bar
-make some 1 pixel coloured GIFs
-alternate bar colours
-use a set thickness for each bar (by using the width attribute of the image tag to show the bar)
-use the values you calculated for each bar to stretch the pixel image to the appropriate height (using
Wow.Many, many thanks to Michael and Matthew and their very quick
responses!
Best,
CK.
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So is that adequate?
yes.You are invulnerable to sql injection if you use it on all of
your inputs.As in from-the-planet-Krypton invulnerable.
What other best practices are there to ensure nothing can happen?
Unplug your web server from the internet and turn it off.
No, seriously, there is
Is this what you want?
DELETE
FROMmyTable
WHEREparent = 3
Or do you want to be able to recursively delete descendents (i.e. children,
cgrandchildren.) at all levels?
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From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2004 8:32 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Access
Where can I learn about XSS protection?I'm sure google can give me zillions of references but if you can recommend one or two that would be great.
CFQUERYPARAM will protect your database from SQL injection attacks.
If you need other things (such as XSS protection), then you'll have
to
add
See Matt's post.; )I don't know of any place offhand to get more info.
Depending on your application, XSS may or may not be a concern.It
usually is, but the magnitude of the problem varies widely, from a
couple fields on one form, to every field on every form.And don't
discount URL fields either,
FWIW, my 6.1 version of DW sometimes can't even find plain text words
I know are right there on the page. If I close and re-open it, I can
find those same words. I chalk it up to an annoying bug. Bottom line:
you might try another editor to test your regex in as well.
-
Regards,
Bob
My apologies -- this will give you their total session time.To work
out if they've been inactive for more than 15 minutes you'll have to do
a time check comparing the last active timestamp and the current time
using now().
Hi Tim,
Thanks.I ran your script and sure enough, right now, it says
Thanks Matt and the others!
This was helpful.
I'm not sure what the point of wrapping vars in HTMLEditFormat.The Ref Man is almost useless in stating it's value...returns an HTML-escaped string...so?Why does that help.I'll have to think on that.
I'll have to read up on XSS though.Haven't a clue
LOL
tony u can speak 4 me anytime, gives me more time to go fishin!
cfset goodFlyFishingDay = weather EQ rain AND clouds EQ overcast AND season NEQ winter
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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:Wed, 18 Aug
XSS is cross site scripting, which is where a malicious user injects
some code that will be displayed on your site (and consequently
assumed to come from you by your users).Comments on blogs are an
example.If I drop a SCRIPT tag into a blog comment that launches a
popup window to porn site X,
Thanks, Barney! Now it makes sense!
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Most of us on the CF Engineering QA teams are planning on heading to New Orleans Nov 1-4.
We view this as one of our most important events of the year, as the ability to talk to, mingle, make decisions and hear from you our customers is critical to our success.
And of course, there are some
Dear list,
I'm sure there is a simple answer to this basic question.Sorry for
being such a noob: I'm working on my first application!I hope to
become a useful member of the CF community one day.But first you will
have to put up with my stupid questions for a while.
Stupid question the second:
what else would be sweet is auto queryparams ;)
oh yeah a select all option on the damn extention manager
they also should buy out MM exporter too build that into their products too
and.. make a cf_smile tag 4 matt ;) (run in java of course)
-- Original Message
I've recently revisited some form validation issues, and once again it's driving me batty. Here is what I have so far...
here's the main part of the form from dsp_register.cfm
at the top I set a default value for variables.msg and form fields
cfparam name=form.team_name default=
cfparam
OK umm... no lol
no really, i've made plnty of polls just that way horizontal and vertical...
her has to be cfchart since they have the ability to change the graph type bar, line, pie etc..
i've got it all working now it was the seriesplacement attribute. i set that to cluster and voila
try this on for size
SELECT name=project
CFOUTPUT query=get_projects
OPTION value=#ID#cfif ID is get_details.ID selected/cfif#projectname#/OPTION
/CFOUTPUT
/SELECT
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From: Chris Kavanagh
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:33 PM
Subject: setting a default
oh, well i guess that was an earlier problem but either way its fixed as well as the original :) still need to adjust the depth though if at all possible
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From: Ewok
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: CFCHART Macromedia page broke
OK
Dear Ewok,
Thank you, you're a genius.I was just fumbling around the edges of
that solution, but my way involved all kinds of CFSETs and stuff: using
the scope is much more elegant.
My first app is working quite nicely but I bet the code is flabby.I
will probably look back on it and cringe
You have to put some logic within the ouput tags that looks something
line this
CFOUTPUT query=get_projects
OPTION#projectname# ciif ID EQ acertainvalue
SELECTED/cfif/OPTION
/CFOUTPUT
On Aug 18, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Ewok wrote:
try this on for size
SELECT name=project
CFOUTPUT
we all cringe at our first app(s) .. or atleast I hope WE do : )
glad to help and good luck!
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From: Chris Kavanagh
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:05 PM
Subject: SOLVED: setting a default value in my SELECT tag
Dear Ewok,
Thank you, you're a
what else would be sweet is auto queryparams ;)
oh yeah a select all option on the damn extention
manager
they also should buy out MM exporter too build that into
their products too
and.. make a cf_smile tag 4 matt ;) (run in
java of course)
Ha! ... You scoff, but the onTap
nice. i see you added blackstone event gateways as a session with
jordahl.good stuff.
also, great app to manage the schedule.much better than the old way
to manage the schedule:choices to replace with, good idea!
tw
--
tony
Tony Weeg
human.
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
blog:
All,
I'm trying to help out a family member who is not at all Web savvy. They
need to put together a Web site and I don't mind helping them set it up
(I'm even donating the server space... aren't I nice?), but I don't want
to deal with the many minor updates they're almost certainly going to
Jake-
You might try http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/
I use it in my application, and acutally customized the Insert Hyperlink and Insert Image features (www.unrivaledwebhosting.com/demo/admin/ l: demo P: demo if you care to glance)
The above link is free and easy to implement.
LOL
tony u can speak 4 me anytime, gives me more time to go
fishin!
cfset goodFlyFishingDay = weather EQ rain AND clouds EQ
overcast AND season NEQ winter
Syntax is a bit odd... not sure it will work that way, try this:
cfset overcast = ran clouds
cfif weather eq overcast and season neq
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