> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> And yes, the argument is there for cost savings, etc. but the first
time
> you find yourself spending 2 days trying to make something work across
> browsers using only XHTML and CSS when you could have performed the
sam
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on
> the browser and version? How many?
Nope. I have one CSS file for screen display (and another for printing)
that is designed for IE 5.5 and Firefox. If
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> How about that CherryOS for Mac Emulation!
I don't know - how about it?
How about that CherryOS for Mac Emulation!
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Merrill [mailto:
Worthy of some consideration - thanks!
Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2005 19:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
On
in the next few months...
and you know what a sleek, sinewy Tiger will do when he sees a cow
walk by (if he doesn't die of hunger/boredom first...
... just outrun him :)
Dick
>
>
> From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
ubject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:10 PM, dave wrote:
> dick, how is it coming with the new lil mac mp3 player/drive and
> running cfm on?
>
>
Dave
If the new mac mp3 player you refer to is the iPod shuffle, then great!
shuffle is a memor
On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>
> I actually think that the Mini look very nice - but in my case it
> would be
> exclusively for testing Safari. I'm personally very happy with my
> Windows
> PCs so I just wouldn't be using it for much else.
Prolly doesn't make much sense for you,
On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:10 PM, dave wrote:
> dick, how is it coming with the new lil mac mp3 player/drive and
> running cfm on?
>
>
Dave
If the new mac mp3 player you refer to is the iPod shuffle, then great!
shuffle is a memory stick in 2 sizes:
1/2 Gig: $99
1Gig: $150
I am told that's very
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> On Feb 6, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>
>
> Jim
uary 06, 2005 4:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
On Feb 6, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>
> To peak your technical interest, OS X comes with most open-source
> programming/scripting languages (plus some) pre-installed -- it's all
&
On Feb 6, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>
> To peak your technical interest, OS X comes with most open-source
> programming/scripting languages (plus some) pre-installed -- it's all
> right there.
>
>
I can't believe I typed peak instead of pique (earlier on the BD list I
typed PUBIC i
On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Jim Davis wrote:
> Not so much for me. That $500 dollar machine is really barebones: you
> need
> to add things (like a monitor, keyboard and such) and it still requires
> dedicated space (us apartment dwellers have space at a premium).
>
> That doesn't even consider
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:55 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:56 AM, Cutter wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
;
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we
> had
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:09 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> Thanks Jim, comments below.
>
> Dave Merrill
>
> > > - W
On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:56 AM, Cutter wrote:
>>
>>> - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Personally, no. I use Virtual PC for PC and Linux and trust to the
>> graces
>> of friends for Macs (since I can't see spending the money and
>> dedicating the
>> space for one
I agree, but there are a few issues.
- Tables are not good for section 508 compliance, or any other situation
where html markup ideally has meaning, i.e., isn't just a layout artifact.
- CSS positioning makes layout much more separate from content, which is
important if there are designers who ar
Thanks Jim, comments below.
Dave Merrill
> > - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js
> > capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions?
>
> The JavaScript and DHTML guides at MSDN.microsoft.com are pretty good and
> inform you of which features
Jim Davis wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:42 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>>
>>Specifically...
>>
>>- Do
Same here... I've lurked around some CSS-related newsgroups and even
some of the die-hard CSS fans still use tables for layout and dress it
up with CSS.
I NEVER put in a hack. NEVER! I have never needed anything that bad to
use a hack.
M!ke
>So I'm very careful with CSS, not to get into having
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>
> Specifically...
>
> - Do you serve different style sheets or pages dep
Thanks for the breakdown Jochem.
It seems like folks aren't paying a lot of attention to macs. Here around
Boston, some biotech companies need mixed platform support, including macs.
Not a lot of linux/unix, at least on the desktop where the browsers live.
Ironically, I used to be a mac-only guy,
Dave Merrill wrote:
>
> - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and
> version? How many?
No. But I might serve additional ones for certain browsers (IE).
> - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually
> help your pages be more univ
My two cents...
I develop with Firefox and its validator extension, then fiddle with this and
that for IE.
Everyone should use Firefox for their browsing and I recommend it to most of my
clients.
Side note: I also like Thunderbird for email. It's proven to be preety nifty so
far for me.
Wi
>>- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the
browser and
>>version? How many?
Sometimes, you have to. Mozilla sticks closer to the standard and IE has some
oddities for which you must find workarounds.
>>- Are you coding to W3C standards?
If you need some nice functiona
Current windows versions only?
Dave Merrill
> I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and
> NetScape.
> Thats the only ones I deal with honestly.
>
>
> Dave Merrill wrote:
>
> >I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only
> browser we had
> >to
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
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From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 February 2005 13:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Ultimately, he's mostly correct, but to be fair, not entire
time
-Original Message-
From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
It should be noted that Martin's actually talking about getting strong
enough with CSS to understand when y
u call in now, you'll also get this
great knife that can cut through aluminum cans--and more. Simply put,
it's just not all the way there, but getting another person on board
always helps.
Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
rom: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we
had
to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent
IE
can't comment on how they
display in the other browsers for the reason stated above
-Original Message-
From: ColdFusion Developer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
I do all devel
I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and
NetScape.
Thats the only ones I deal with honestly.
Dave Merrill wrote:
>I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had
>to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent
I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had
to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's
oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm
wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking
ab
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