Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on the
Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and myself
did not want to force them to register.
Some argue that they
them register or don't make them register
Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on
the Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and
myself did not want to
Ask for the info, just don't tell them they are registering!
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
Ok guys, I just read in m
Teens (and alot of online shoppers) do not like you to store anything about
them (even though common sense dictates they'll have to always repeat the
reg info for every purchaseand you could store it without their
knowledge anyway).
So if you think you'll cheese off your main market...I'd v
earch on it - it can't be all
bad...
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how te
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:53:28 -0700, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You could take a paypal approach and ask after the checkout is complete "do
> you want to save this information so you won't have to enter it again?"
I do something similar to that. The checkout form is a simple
1-screener wi
Entering information because it is needed to complete an order is no burden
on the purchaser. Asking them to enter it before they even have decided to
order is. My experience is that you turn off potential buyers and if they
enter any info at all, it is all junk.
My recommendation is not to le
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:53:28 -0700, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tend to gravitate to the way amazon.com does
> ecommerce. They've spent millions doing research on it - it can't be all
> bad...
I disagree pretty strongly with that. I've watched too many ecommerce
sites die on the vine and
The custoemr is holding money out to you. all you have to do is reach
out and take it.
If you walk into a store, pick out a product and walk to the cash
register, can you ever remember a time when the clerk handed you the
money back and asked you for your username and password?
To me, the purpos
Not all websites are to make sales. Not all websites should or do have shopping
carts.
Some websites are for building marketing lists.
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
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To me, the purpose of a web site is not to build a marketing list.
I
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
The custoemr is holding money out to you. all you have to do is reach
out and take it.
If you walk into a store, pick out a product and walk to the
We could debate it all day long...but if it ain't usable you ain't makin the
sale!!
It's a little known secret...seems to have been missed by huge swaths of
programmers...it's called "common sense" ;-)
Sometimes it's tough to pull back and really think something
through...especially when you'r
> But to this day, Radio Shack, and many others,
> still ask for at least your zip code before
> ringing up a sale. And every time I get a
> haircut, one of the simplest services, I am
> asked to provide my telephone number so they
> can track me.
Does their ability to track you provide you with
Also we need to remember there is stuff like the Google Toolbar that will
auto fill registration forms for ya...perhaps the average user hasn't come
that far yetbut it will effect the usefulness of the "user account" in
future
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Services Consultant
WorkCover Corporation
p: 08 8233 2548
m: 0418 806 166
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.workcover.com
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 7:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or
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Subject: RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
Research shows that if you require people to register to use your site
60% turn away.
If you are going to require them to register then there needs to be some
value add e.g. non-registered users can view the sit
Correct. I have no problem entering personal info in order to get Market
Reports, Consulting reports, etc. Although I did lie for my Yahoo account
and others whom ask too much too early. There is a quid pro quo -- value for
value. That is not the case on a shopping web-site.
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telephone number so they can
track me.
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From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
The custoemr is holding money out to you. all you have
TECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
> Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do
> NOT want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my
>
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:28:38 -0700, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On one of my sites, registration allows you to track your orders more
> easily. You can login to see if the order has been filled or shipped.
> Sure, you could do that other ways.
send them a link with their order con
I've always thought, "Remove ALL obstacles". Registering is an obstacle in my
mind. You are setting up a hurdle in front of the customer. Why do that? Why
not remove all hurdles?
If I want to browse, toy with the idea of buying a product from a site that
makes me register, when I click checkou
They've spent millions doing research on it - it can't be all
>bad...
I know I wouldn't like to run a 2.39 billion dollar deficit with *my* site. So
they sold millions of Harry Potter books to help out in 2004, overall Amazon
still wouldn't be considered a success. Maybe even THEY have areas of
If I wanted to give personal information, I could just purchase online AND
get it cheaper!
Just some random thoughts...
- Calvin
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From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 5:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: E-commerce - Make them register or
> overall Amazon still wouldn't be considered a success.
Dismissing the business decisions which account for Amazon's deficit, which
are way off topic and not necessarily a sign of an unhealthy or unsuccessful
business, Amazon is quite successful when it comes to the principles of
ecommerce. They
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From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The custoemr is holding money out to you. all you have to do is reach
> out and take it.
>
> If you walk into a store, pick out a product and walk to the cash
> register, can you ever remember a time when the clerk handed y
ssage -
From: "Will Tomlinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 20:45
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
> Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do
NOT want to regi
the way amazon.com does
> ecommerce. They've spent millions doing research on it - it can't be all
> bad...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: E-com
the buzzword I like today - "process centric IT".
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From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 23:17
Subject: Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register
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