>>thoughts? complaints? bitches? moans?
I'll second this.
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Hey All,
So it's pretty clear that many members on this list use SPAM filters.
I am able to white list domains and specific addresses.
Would it be too much trouble for others to white list houseoffusion.com so that
subject lines don't get screwed up (i.e SPAM-LOW being added to the subject for
I am using this too now.. I had bought a Spam filter for Outlook Express
but Tbird is doing
as good a job as the commericial one!
A little getting used to at first but I'm liking it.
Dave
>>Another method of attack is using an email client that has junk mail
>>
>>
>filters built into it. I
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Subject: RE: OT: Spam Filters
Lesson learned:
Always catch your errors in javascript! try/catch/throw and onerror are
your friends -- not only in cf, but also on the client.
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|-Original Message-
|From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 13:25
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: OT: Spam Filters
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|Thanks Hugo ... I almost thought there must be a bug or something...
|that seems crazy... they're cutting out a large percenta
Thanks Hugo ... I almost thought there must be a bug or something...
that seems crazy... they're cutting out a large percentage of potential
users
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT:
: http://www.grida.no
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|-Original Message-
|From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:23
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: OT: Spam Filters
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|I do not see any download link on that page
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Spam Filters
Tim Laureska wrote:
>It looks like they took the download Thuderbird link off the mozilla
site as of 5:40 AM EST
>
>
???
http://www.mozill
Tim Laureska wrote:
>It looks like they took the download Thuderbird link off the mozilla site as
>of 5:40 AM EST
>
>
???
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
Still there for me.
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Special thanks to the CF Commun
It looks like they took the download Thuderbird link off the mozilla
site as of 5:40 AM EST
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Spam Filters
>Another method of attack
>Another method of attack is using an email client that has junk mail filters
>built into it. I use Mozilla's Thunderbird email client, which has junk mail
>filters that, once trained, filter out spam amazingly well.
>
>
Complete aside - but just thought I'd mention that Thunderbird v1 has
bee
Donna French wrote:
>Sorry for the OT post, but I'm hoping someone has setup a great
>filtering system or list of keywords to filter by that won't mind
>sharing them.
>
>We use CrystalTech hosting and the spam filters are working fine, but
>the people within the company are driving me nuts asking
Sorry for the OT post, but I'm hoping someone has setup a great
filtering system or list of keywords to filter by that won't mind
sharing them.
We use CrystalTech hosting and the spam filters are working fine, but
the people within the company are driving me nuts asking when they
will see a consid
If anybody interested and is using Outlook, check SpamBayes
This uses a Bayesian algorithm to filter and after some training is quite
accurate, and its free and open source :)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/
install not bad, would say still requires a technical minded individual, but
i
Send me the headers off list and I'll help out. You can get the headers by
selecting properties on the message. You'll see one line that says received:.
Those are the headers.
> Im trying to figure out the source for these spam emails, has anyone else
> on this list received this e-mail?
>
> Than
Im trying to figure out the source for these spam emails, has anyone else
on this list received this e-mail?
Thanks,
CC
This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please
delete without
FYI, there was a discussion on SpamArrest sending spams to people in this
same manner (harvesting emails from folks doing the responder thing to be
able to email an SA customer) on the WWWAC list (NY new media list) in
recent hours. You guys aren't the only ones.
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Dave -
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From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: OT: spam...
Lee Fuller wrote:
> Did you also get back a message from them stating that it's a spammer who's
> pretending to be them? I did, and they have an announcement about it now.
> Seems someone who was "caught" by them is simply getting even.
It is pretty hard to verify that claim without the full head
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From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Did you also get back a message from them stating that it's a spammer who's
>pretending to be them? I did, and they have an announcement about it now.
>Seems someone who was "caught" by them is
Ah... well, that makes more sense. It's a pretty believable message though.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: spam...
Did you also get back a message from them stating that i
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| Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:34 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: OT: spam...
|
|
| From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >Seems a bit ironic to me that I'm getting
| >spammed by the anti-spam police.
|
| Yeah, I went to their websit
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Seems a bit ironic to me that I'm getting
>spammed by the anti-spam police.
Yeah, I went to their website (without using the affiliate link provided in the
e-mail) and filled out their contact form (without giving them my e-mail address) and
co
Ok, not serious in any way, but doesn't this message constitute
unsolicited email (i.e. "spam"). Seems a bit ironic to me that I'm getting
spammed by the anti-spam police. It's rather like informing the FCC about
naughty telemarketers and having them try to sell you long distance service
.
-
It is so funny to see this discussion keep cropping up. The whole
blacklisting of open relays is a very touchy issue. I agree that there is
little excuse for running an open relay in today's world (though some argue
that it is their right... I think this was an issue in MIT vs. MAPS). I
will no
Ditto
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Exactly my point
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h..voluntarily breaking the law you meanthe predecessor to ORDB was
ORBS (from Aussie Land) and they got shut down after having two successful
legal injunction brought against them.
Anyhoo...I'm sure we've beaten this subject to death and nothing is going to
change until someone with dee
on
- Original Message -
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> >Yup..I'll take the hit...I should have done more research. The fact
still
> >
,
competitors and such in there too :)
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 13:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
>Yup..I'll take the hit...I should have done more research. The fact still
>remains that group
>Yup..I'll take the hit...I should have done more research. The fact still
>remains that groups like ORDB are going too far in their approach to SPAM
They do much more good than harm, ime. collateral damage isn't fun for the
damaged, but it's recoverable. These people are doing voluntary work
>Well Len thanks for calling me lazy and incompetent. Until I got
>blacklisted I did not know about open relays. So how does that put me in
>either category?
If you run a public mail server, don't know what open relays are, nor how
to close your own, that's incompetence.
>The mail server I wa
> Well Len thanks for calling me lazy and incompetent. Until I got
> blacklisted I did not know about open relays. So how does that
> put me in either category? The mail server I was running had no
> documentation about the possible abuse of or even the existence
> of open relays. I'm the first
You got it Paris..nobody's perfecteven us lazy incompetent folks need
help sometimes ;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
No disrespect intended, but I would say that you should have been aware of
the potential issues.
"Lazy" and "incompetent" are st
Yup..I'll take the hit...I should have done more research. The fact still
remains that groups like ORDB are going too far in their approach to SPAM
Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
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in mail servers?
Just because someone stumps you at Jeopardy on one question doesn't make you
stupid or them gifted :)
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 13:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
Wel
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From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> Well Len thanks for calling me lazy and incompetent. Until I got
> blacklist
Well Len thanks for calling me lazy and incompetent. Until I got
blacklisted I did not know about open relays. So how does that put me in
either category? The mail server I was running had no documentation about
the possible abuse of or even the existence of open relays. I'm the first
to admit
True - I wasn't thinking of malicious attacks, I was thinking of SPAM.
- Original Message -
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> &
>I'll agree that a blackhole list for web servers is a great idea.
>Definitely a far greater risk and traffic waste than open relays.
You can only say that since you haven't been the victim of a mutli-week,
high-source-bandwidth DoS and other malicious attacks mounted through
1000's and 1000's
>And shutting people down with no warning is also inexusable
People running open relays are lazy or incompetent, so sending them a
warning, even automated (no labor) won't energize them or power up their
skills.
In 2001, every mail admin has used up his "virtual three strikes". No
excuse, no
't patched or won't in months. Now that would
be
> useful :)
>
> -paris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:37
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
>
>
>
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> Bryan Stevenson wrote:
>
> > It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.
> >
> > Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail ser
venson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.
>
> Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that m
..
now that would be nice.. sure would cut down on all that spare traffic
absorbed by admins who haven't patched or won't in months. Now that would be
useful :)
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:37
To:
You're comparing what an organization like ORDB does to a virusgee I
guess your are coming around to my view ;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ge
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.
>
> Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail servers
> should not be open.BUT is it so bad to give the folks running the server
> a chance to fix it first??
I would also very much like a
It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.
Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail servers
should not be open.BUT is it so bad to give the folks running the server
a chance to fix it first?? My issue is that once found to be open it is
incredibly difficult
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
>
> And shutting people down with no warning is also inexusable
Why? We use ORDB because we don't want email from servers that are open
relays. So every time we ask ORDB whether they believe you are an open
relay and if they say they think you are we refuse the mail. W
Geesh...glad I don't work for you ;-)
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SP
> >To go back to your gun analogy,
> >we are restricted in possession and use of guns in order to reduce the
> >likelihood of homicides. Otherwise, I should be able to carry a locked
and
> >loaded gun anywhere I choose.
>
> open relay MX's lying around will be picked up by spammers and used as
>
om/coldfusion/readerschoice2001/nominationformbpa.cfm
>>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition:
>http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm
- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sen
>To go back to your gun analogy,
>we are restricted in possession and use of guns in order to reduce the
>likelihood of homicides. Otherwise, I should be able to carry a locked and
>loaded gun anywhere I choose.
open relay MX's lying around will be picked up by spammers and used as
weapons. Ru
amen.
-Original Message-
From: tom muck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 18:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
The only thing worse than spam is that nazi-like ORBZ.
tom
"Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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yup..but they are gone apparently..the lawyer got 'em
Now can I hear a big w what a shame ;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
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The only thing worse than spam is that nazi-like ORBZ.
tom
"Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> yeah we have had problems with ORBS... weirdly it called one of our
servers
> open somehow because we customarily bounce bad mail back or
etc, per their own rates).
- Original Message -
From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: OT: SPAM lists?
> oh yeah without a doubt one should be responsible if somethi
Ahh yes...blacklisting is fine BUT
They should give you a few days grace to fix the issue before they do it. A
little more spam won't hurt anyone and the grace period means that the valid
users of the mail server don't have their service interuppted as a result of
the blacklisting withou
Go Paris! I think we see eye-to-eye ;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
>
>
> My opinion would be that if you are running a mail server, it is your
> responsibility to be aware of and control how it relays. (IMO, falls into
>
, December 04, 2001 17:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
My opinion would be that if you are running a mail server, it is your
responsibility to be aware of and control how it relays. (IMO, falls into
the same bucket as setting up IIS and being aware of things like Code Red)
However,
their implementation.
- Original Message -
From: "Troy Montour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> Bryan,
> I know your feeling they did it to me while I w
debugging purposes never nice dealing
with them...
It is like dealing with the Borg...
Well two of us.. who else hates this piece of net trash?
-paris
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 15:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> Hey All,
>
>
> I just had an mazingly frustrating experiences with one of the blackhole
> database maintainers (ordb.org). These folks think they are doing favours
> by helping ISP'
Hey All,
I just had an mazingly frustrating experiences with one of the blackhole
database maintainers (ordb.org). These folks think they are doing favours
by helping ISP's to block mail server IPs that are running open relays
(allow spammers to send using that mail server), but their implement
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From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> >I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering. Are there
> >any resources for pulling
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>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:19 PM
>Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
>
>
> > Other than black hole lists, I don't know of any. I rea
>I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering. Are there
>any resources for pulling known SPAM addresses? Free, as in beer?
We run an SMTP anti-abuse gateway, and subcribe it to selected RBL servers,
do DNS validations, enforce SMTP protocol compliance, regex filters on
headers,
iMS does have direct support for ORBs-type blackhole lists...
Regards,
Howie
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
ember 04, 2001 3:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
>
>
> Other than black hole lists, I don't know of any. I read of a distributed
> system being worked up on slashdot a few days back. I was going
> to suggest
> the same thing for iMS users to catalog
Yeah, I saw the thing on Slashdot too - I'll probably investigate that.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?
> O
Other than black hole lists, I don't know of any. I read of a distributed
system being worked up on slashdot a few days back. I was going to suggest
the same thing for iMS users to catalog email addresses, subjects, etc. of
spam to be blocked.
At 03:15 PM 12/4/01, you wrote:
>I was looking at
I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering. Are there
any resources for pulling known SPAM addresses? Free, as in beer?
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I'm getting spam coming into my email account at the rate of 10-20 a
minute for 20 hours now. The messages are all identical, including the
time and headers. Every time I collect my email from that server, there
are 1
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