Re: cfm vs. php?

2006-03-28 Thread Ricardo Russon
riginal Message- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:46 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? > > I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer > Linux/CF? > > > -Original Message

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2006-03-28 Thread Eric Roberts
ssage- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews > Sent: Tuesday, Mar

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2006-03-28 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
If you are only trying to accomplish this single task, I don't see the benefit of paying for a CF license for this. If, however, this will be part of on-going development, CF is hard to beat. Mike -Original Message- From: amanda bradshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27,

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2006-03-28 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Well, first you need to build a time machine...I'm working as an independent contractor and am almost done a career change to teaching high school English...got my certification, all I need now is a full-time teaching gig. In the meantime, I sub when time allows. Now, of course, if someone wants

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2006-03-28 Thread Kevin Aebig
njoy using both... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? Let me give you my own personal experience, it might help. 6 years ago, I was the manager of a small (5 person) web de

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2006-03-28 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Man... How does one get to work on your team, Pete? :) > Let me give you my own personal experience, it might help. > 6 years ago, I was the manager of a small (5 person) web > design group > at a medium-sized software company. At the time, I had > about equal > experience with ASP and CF. > My

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2006-03-28 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Let me give you my own personal experience, it might help. 6 years ago, I was the manager of a small (5 person) web design group at a medium-sized software company. At the time, I had about equal experience with ASP and CF. My team was great -- young, enthusiastic, willing to learn...but all the

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2006-03-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 06:48, Jim Davis wrote: > And this works on both sides of the spectrum. I've been told more than > once in my company that "CF isn't expensive enough to be an > enterprise-capable product". Add Flex to the purchase order then :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion P

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
er of servers for load-balancing instead of single servers with scads of sites on each. Keep us in mind whe -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? ICG does Linux? Darnit, I just switch

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
Windows, but I > can't recall. > > -Original Message- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:46 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? > > > I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those compan

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
ICGLink is Linux based, Gearhost I "think" is Windows, but I can't recall. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do t

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM > > While you're talking about hosting Jacob, I'd suggest either > Gearhost.com > (CF hosting as low as $8.95, with mySQL inc

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
he machine, purchase a CF license and can download a free text editor with CF hooks from the internet. It's possible to develop in CF for NOTHING, not counting the cost of hosting. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:31 AM To: CF

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
> while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a > darkside lurking > somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? I'll echo the "it's about money" statements, but follow up with a caveat. If your needs are simple enough that shared hosting would work (you don't need a colocated se

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2006-03-28 Thread rhymes with 'loud'
Amanda, I don't recall seeing anywhere in this thread whether or not your company will be doing its own hosting or not...but if you outsource your hosting, then it doesn't have to cost very much at all to develop using CF, depending on what tools your developers opt to use. The developer version

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2006-03-28 Thread Sung Woo
Is that right? I thought CPU count only comes into account for .NET or J2EE versions. For the plain ol' server version, I thought it was no cost? http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm >It's only actually cheaper for single CPU servers though. >So the benefit of

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2006-03-28 Thread Snake
It's only actually cheaper for single CPU servers though. So the benefit of BlueDragon over CFMX isn't really cost, but rather it's feature set and support. Russ -Original Message- From: Sung Woo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2006 14:58 To: CF-Talk Subject:

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2006-03-28 Thread Sung Woo
Costwise, you can also get CFML through BlueDragon: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/features.cfm The minimum server is still free, another reason to go CFML instead of PHP. ~| Message: http://www.house

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2006-03-28 Thread Raymond Camden
I heard that as well, at SGI. (Of course, this was MANY moons ago.) On 3/27/06, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 AM > > To: CF-Tal

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2006-03-27 Thread James Holmes
ay, March 28, 2006 12:38 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? > > > > Exactly. To quote Heinlein, "The answer to any question that begins > > with 'Why don't they' is invariably 'Money'." > > And this works on both

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2006-03-27 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? > > Exactly. To quote Heinlein, "The answer to any question that begins > with 'Why don't they'

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2006-03-27 Thread James Holmes
Exactly. To quote Heinlein, "The answer to any question that begins with 'Why don't they' is invariably 'Money'." On 3/28/06, j s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think its a question of money. PHP is free, and most hosting services offer > it. > > >thanks eric - this helps. > > > >while i now clea

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2006-03-27 Thread j s
I think its a question of money. PHP is free, and most hosting services offer it. >thanks eric - this helps. > >while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a darkside lurking >somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? > >scenario: i'm a designer trying to steer our team in a go

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2006-03-27 Thread amanda bradshaw
thanks eric - this helps. while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a darkside lurking somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? scenario: i'm a designer trying to steer our team in a good direction but i stop at HTML. to me, the applications i've seen done in PHP aren't as el

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2006-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
I would say mostly the coding time. CF is close to what I would call a rapid application development tool for the web. I also find it to be close to an OOP approach to programming than PHP. The code itself is less intensive (though just as powerful) that PHP. It cost more, but so does any quali