*opens mouth pours in coffee*
Ok ok I am following now, had to think about cfpresentation for a second and
its making sense.
Adam H
On Dec 21, 2007 7:06 AM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Haskell wrote:
> > Thats not what I meant but I may not have understand Jochem's origi
Adam Haskell wrote:
> Thats not what I meant but I may not have understand Jochem's original
> statement correctly. My statement was that a switch would route any outgoing
> HTTP requests from the cluster node for the cluster back to the same node
> (not subsequent incoming requests to the same nod
Thats not what I meant but I may not have understand Jochem's original
statement correctly. My statement was that a switch would route any outgoing
HTTP requests from the cluster node for the cluster back to the same node
(not subsequent incoming requests to the same node). Does that make any more
Sure. The switch would do so via sticky sessions, so we're back to
where we started - sticky sessions are necessary for a lot of
functionality.
On Dec 21, 2007 10:56 AM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not a sys admin so I might be off here but couldn't you get around this
> with a s
I'm not a sys admin so I might be off here but couldn't you get around this
with a switch that ensures requests coming off a certain server gets routed
properly?
Adam Haskell
On Dec 19, 2007 6:18 PM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Corfield wrote:
> > The issue here is that
Sean Corfield wrote:
> The issue here is that if you do not have sticky session, you have to
> be able to manage sessions that move between servers at will. That
> means that either:
> 1) you use client scope instead of session scope (with all the
> attendant restrictions)
> 2) you write your own s
On Dec 19, 2007 2:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason why I ask is, we have a coupon application that doesn't work with
> sticky
> sessions and only works with the standard sessions management option.
That statement doesn't make any sense - how can an application *not*
work with stick
Three minutes! Wow! There are a lot of people at our school that can't
enter their home address in three minutes. ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session Management
hello
hello there,
at our college, we made it a policy to have the sessions for our portal
appllcation expire after 3 minutes of inactivity. This is to address
security and privacy issues. Portal built using PHP and implemented
Novell's iChain for single signon ability across any applications that
invol
However, I have been considering adding a timeout so that users must log back in when
their sessions expire. It would sure make my coding much easier.
BTW, all the boozers our in our IT dept. ;-)
_
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 11/2/2004 9:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subje
Michael, does this mean if a logged-in user goes off to lunch without
logging out, their machine is still logged in (in effect) all day (if
it's a long lunch with the sales department booze-heads) or even all
night too?
Isn't that a security risk?
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Web
I just store login information in a cookie. Then, if the session has
timed out, I reload the session using the login information that is
stored in the cookie. The user never knows they lost their session due
to inactivity.
-Original Message-
From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
S
You could
a) increase the session timeout
b) use client scope
note that if you use client scope, you can't store complex variables
there (like queries or structures).
--Ben
Chad McCue wrote:
> I am looking for a tag or script that will allow a user to continue their session
> when it has expir
> From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Session Management
> I am looking for a tag or script that will allow a user to
> continue their session when it has expired due to their lack
> of using the site. I have l
I am looking for a tag or script that will allow a user to continue their
session when it has expired due to their lack of using the site. I have
looked at cfdev.com and checked out theirs, but it doesn't seem to work very
well.
Thanks
- Original Message -
From: "Chad McCue" <[EMAIL PROTE
I see what you mean... Thanks for the insite Jim
Thanks;
Rino
>From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: session management help please
>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:52:18 -0700
>
>
- Original Message -
From: "NANCY SKAGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: session management help please
> Finally it comes to this
>
> As an old time chatter myself,
lution all on my own, but it was presenting the question to those
that would listen that helped
Thanks;
Rino
>From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: session management help please
>Date: Sun, 18 Ja
> As an old time chatter myself, I know from experiance, that
> when you log into a chatroom you can be there anywhere from
> 5 minutes to a couple of hours. This is the only thing messing
> with my session management. As I states earlier, I would like
> to add a who's online link to this site.
ROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: session management help please
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:46:04 -0500
>
> > You can check the HTTP_REFERER to see if they came from your
> > domain or somewhere else
> >
> > So if they come in from an
> the reason I would like to end sessions in thos way is the
> fact that a certain page on the site will have a chatroom
> on it. A user can spend a unknown amount of time there, then
> either surf to other sections of the site, of surf somewhere
> else. if the person does leave the site and th
> You can check the HTTP_REFERER to see if they came from your
> domain or somewhere else
>
> So if they come in from anywhere outside of your domain, you
> can make them log in.
It's worth pointing out that as HTTP_REFERER is provided by the browser, it
cannot be relied upon to be correct
the site. Any thoughts on
>this?
>
>thanks;
>Rino
>
> >From: "Bob Haroche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: session management help please
> >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:33
Thank you so much... I thought that this was going to be the only way to
pull this off. I guess at any rate I can add this to the macormedia wish
list for the next version of coldfusion. Macormedia really needs to add a
new and better tags for session management. ROFLMAO... If I was a better
pr
albe to end a session if a user surfs away form the site. Any thoughts on
this?
thanks;
Rino
>From: "Bob Haroche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: session management help please
>Date: Sat, 17 Jan 200
> > I'm writing my first application. I will be useing a
> > secure section on my site you need to login to. I can
> > set up a logout linkto end a session. I can end a
> > session if the user closes the browser. my question
> > is, is there a way to kill or end the session if the
> > user navigate
11:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: session management help please
NANCY SKAGER wrote:
> Thank you so much... I thought that this was going to be the only way to
> pull this off. I guess at any rate I can add this to the macormedia wish
> list for the next version of coldfusion. Macormed
I'm wondering why Nancy wants to end session variables in the way she
describes. Perhaps there are other ways of achieving her goal.
For example, perhaps a clunky one, she could set very short lived
session variables and refresh them on each page request for another
very short period of time. When
NANCY SKAGER wrote:
> Thank you so much... I thought that this was going to be the only way to
> pull this off. I guess at any rate I can add this to the macormedia wish
> list for the next version of coldfusion. Macormedia really needs to add a
> new and better tags for session management.
IMH
ColdFusion wrote:
> Nevermind answered too soon. If there was a way to determine
> where the user was going, you could using the OnUnload event
> however not sure you can determine that.
Naturally I don't know about you, but the prefs.js configuration
file of my Firebird profile has the followin
D]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: session management help please
>Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:35:19 -0500
>
>If the user is using the same browser window, use the
>OnUnload function of JS to check if the location i
:14 PM
Subject: RE: session management help please
As there is no responce to my original question, am i to determine that this
either can not be done, or it is just that nobody on this list knows the
answer?
Rino
>From: Seth Skager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NANCY SKAGER wrote:
> As there is no responce to my original question, am i to determine that this
> either can not be done, or it is just that nobody on this list knows the
> answer?
It can not be done reliably. It would require sending a message
from the browser to the server the moment the
If the user is using the same browser window, use the
OnUnload function of JS to check if the location is not within
your domain. If so, close the session.
- Original Message -
From: NANCY SKAGER
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: session
No way that I know of
At 01:14 PM 1/17/2004, you wrote:
>As there is no responce to my original question, am i to determine that this
>either can not be done, or it is just that nobody on this list knows the
>answer?
>
>Rino
>
> >From: Seth Skager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As there is no responce to my original question, am i to determine that this
either can not be done, or it is just that nobody on this list knows the
answer?
Rino
>From: Seth Skager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: session management he
> I am wondering if anyone has any ideas on recommended practices for
session
> management where the users may or may not have cookies enabled.
>
This app is interesting in the way that it detects and handles cookies/URL
tokens. It is pretty straight forward and may give you some ideas?
http://
See application.cfm in CFWACK 3rd ed p 656 (in Ch 27)
best, paul
At 11:29 AM 4/5/01 +1200, you wrote:
>I am wondering if anyone has any ideas on recommended practices for session
>management where the users may or may not have cookies enabled.
this mailing list is your absolute best source for information. Ask and
learn :)
Bryan Love ACP
Internet Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Savan Tho
I ran into the same problem with an application a while back. I found that
changing
to
eliminated the error and properly set the variable.
Scott
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-Original Message-
From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 4:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Session Management question
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question.
If their Session variable is a fie
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question.
If their Session variable is a field that is different from their name, you
don't have to do anything special. Just update the database as needed. If
your SessionID IS their name, you might want to look into assigning the
Session variable a value fr
On 7/14/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] penned:
>The SessionTimeOut and ApplicationTimeout has a 1 day before they can kill
>the variables. That's what I think where the problem is.
No, he has it set for 1 hour. I can't explain why the contents would
have still been in the cart, unless the clock on the se
I'm assuming you were expecting your shopping cart to be gone after an hour?
Any session variables are destroyed after an hour, but your CFID is set in a
cookie. If your shopping cart was in session variables it would be gone,
but I'm assuming you wrote it to a database with an ID of 71, and so i
. 336.230.0083
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: session management
The SessionTimeOut and ApplicationTimeout has a 1 day before they can kill
the variables. That's what I think wher
Sessions are stored in Server Memory. When you shutdown the machine last
night, your session data was destroyed. Your CFID was stored in a cookie on
your machine, so it was still the same. If you want your session data to
persist longer, you might want to investigate client variables.
I would
The SessionTimeOut and ApplicationTimeout has a 1 day before they can kill
the variables. That's what I think where the problem is.
Rob
<< Hey all,
I am having a serious session management problem. Here is my cfapplication
tag ...
When I was working with the application last night
Forget where I got this frombut it works. Place it in the
Application.cfm
Julie
-Original Message-
From: Conrad, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Session Manag
Use the onUnload() event handler within the BODY tag to run a template with
this code:
That will take care of it.
Chris
Christopher Conrad
Victoria's Secret Catalogue
http://www.VictoriasSecret.com
Senior.Programmer.Analyst
614.337.5653
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message---
> StructClear(Session) has never worked for me on CF4.5, just
> messes up the session.
>
> Any ideas?
See Allaire Knowledge Base article #14143:
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=14143&Method=Full
Erki
--
Thanks Michael, great resource.
-Original Message-
From: Michael P. Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Session Management
>From the teamallaire tutuorials. http://www.teamallaire.com/tutorials/
How do I kill
> > expire the cookie immediately
...
> eg:
>
> I think :)
You can create "session cookies", which will expire when the browser is
closed, by leaving off the EXPIRES parameter:
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
--
Hi,
If you are using CF session management, i think you could
still use
Maybe have a LogOff button and direct them to a template,
where you delete your session variables and log off the user.
StructClear(Session) has never worked for me on CF4.5, just messes
up the session.
Any ideas?
>From the teamallaire tutuorials. http://www.teamallaire.com/tutorials/
How do I kill all session variables when a user closes their browser?
The Situation: You want to make sure that when a user closes their browser,
any session variables that have been established die.
The Solution: Place this
>expire the cookie immediately
This won't work if you are using CF's session management because you don't
specifically set cookies - it either uses CFID and CFTOKEN stored as a cookie OR
as a URL argument. The expiration of the cookies is set by ColdFusion and is
tied to the session timeout val
>Is it possible to terminate a session when a user closes their browser?? Its
>easy when a user logs out, or the session times out, it would be nice if you
>could also do it when the browser is closed.
Not really, AFAIK. There is no javascript "onQuit" event or similar - although
there is an "o
eg:
I think :)
-Original Message-
From: Steve DeWitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 7 July 2000 8:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Session Management
expire the cookie immediately
-Original Message-
From: Matt Rodosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
I believe you can initiate a CFM logout template by using JavaScript "onClose". I'm
not sure of the exact syntax on this, but I'm sure you could find it on
http://www.irt.org.
---mark
--
Mark Warrick
Phone: (714) 547-5386
Efax.com F
expire the cookie immediately
-Original Message-
From: Matt Rodosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Session Management
Is it possible to terminate a session when a user closes their browser?? Its
easy when a user logs out,
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