Re: cfm vs. php?

2006-03-28 Thread Raymond Camden
I heard that as well, at SGI. (Of course, this was MANY moons ago.) On 3/27/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? Exactly. To quote

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2006-03-28 Thread Sung Woo
Costwise, you can also get CFML through BlueDragon: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/features.cfm The minimum server is still free, another reason to go CFML instead of PHP. ~| Message:

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2006-03-28 Thread Snake
It's only actually cheaper for single CPU servers though. So the benefit of BlueDragon over CFMX isn't really cost, but rather it's feature set and support. Russ -Original Message- From: Sung Woo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2006 14:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php

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2006-03-28 Thread Sung Woo
Is that right? I thought CPU count only comes into account for .NET or J2EE versions. For the plain ol' server version, I thought it was no cost? http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm It's only actually cheaper for single CPU servers though. So the benefit of

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2006-03-28 Thread rhymes with 'loud'
Amanda, I don't recall seeing anywhere in this thread whether or not your company will be doing its own hosting or not...but if you outsource your hosting, then it doesn't have to cost very much at all to develop using CF, depending on what tools your developers opt to use. The developer

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a darkside lurking somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? I'll echo the it's about money statements, but follow up with a caveat. If your needs are simple enough that shared hosting would work (you don't need a colocated server

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a darkside lurking somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? I'll echo the it's about money

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM While you're talking about hosting Jacob, I'd suggest either Gearhost.com (CF hosting as low as $8.95, with mySQL included

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
28, 2006 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM While you're talking about hosting Jacob, I'd suggest either

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2006-03-28 Thread Munson, Jacob
. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews Sent

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2006-03-28 Thread Andy Matthews
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? ICG does Linux? Darnit, I just switched to HMS and I'd not look forward to another move... :\ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:50 AM

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2006-03-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 06:48, Jim Davis wrote: And this works on both sides of the spectrum. I've been told more than once in my company that CF isn't expensive enough to be an enterprise-capable product. Add Flex to the purchase order then :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion

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2006-03-28 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Message- From: amanda bradshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 March 2006 21:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfm vs. php? will admit upfront: i haven't a clue about CF. which is why i'm here. i'm trying to design an application where: user fills out some forms (submits

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2006-03-28 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Man... How does one get to work on your team, Pete? :) Let me give you my own personal experience, it might help. 6 years ago, I was the manager of a small (5 person) web design group at a medium-sized software company. At the time, I had about equal experience with ASP and CF. My team

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2006-03-28 Thread Kevin Aebig
... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? Let me give you my own personal experience, it might help. 6 years ago, I was the manager of a small (5 person) web design group

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2006-03-28 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Well, first you need to build a time machine...I'm working as an independent contractor and am almost done a career change to teaching high school English...got my certification, all I need now is a full-time teaching gig. In the meantime, I sub when time allows. Now, of course, if someone wants

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2006-03-28 Thread Eric Roberts
- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM While

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2006-03-28 Thread Ricardo Russon
2006 09:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfm vs. php? I'm a Linux snob when it comes to hosting. Do those companies offer Linux/CF? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM While you're talking about hosting Jacob, I'd suggest either

cfm vs. php?

2006-03-27 Thread amanda bradshaw
will admit upfront: i haven't a clue about CF. which is why i'm here. i'm trying to design an application where: user fills out some forms (submits) then their input is gathered + spit back out in a flash movie i've seen this accomplished in both .php and .cfm but don't know what the

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2006-03-27 Thread amanda bradshaw
- From: amanda bradshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 March 2006 21:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfm vs. php? will admit upfront: i haven't a clue about CF. which is why i'm here. i'm trying to design an application where: user fills out some forms (submits) then their input

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2006-03-27 Thread j s
I think its a question of money. PHP is free, and most hosting services offer it. thanks eric - this helps. while i now clearly see the CF light...there's gotta be a darkside lurking somewhere. yeah? maybe just a little bitty one? scenario: i'm a designer trying to steer our team in a good

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2006-03-27 Thread James Holmes
Exactly. To quote Heinlein, The answer to any question that begins with 'Why don't they' is invariably 'Money'. On 3/28/06, j s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its a question of money. PHP is free, and most hosting services offer it. thanks eric - this helps. while i now clearly see the

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2006-03-27 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? Exactly. To quote Heinlein, The answer to any question that begins with 'Why don't they' is invariably 'Money'. And this works on both

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2006-03-27 Thread James Holmes
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfm vs. php? Exactly. To quote Heinlein, The answer to any question that begins with 'Why don't they' is invariably 'Money'. And this works on both sides of the spectrum. I've been told more than once in my company that CF isn't expensive enough to be an enterprise