[cfaussie] [Ann] NSW CFUG Meeting 11th Sept.

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
LiveCycle: what is it and how can we work with it. Mark Szulc of Adobe will give us an overview of LiveCycle an give us some insight as to how to work with it. 6:30 for 7pm start. NSW Sports Club (www.flashdev.org.au/venue) This meeting will be a joint meeting with the Sydney Flash Platform

[cfaussie] Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Barry Beattie
please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying here's the question: Why Buy into CF? because of rapid development? - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C#

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Mandel
You know, something I was just thinking of now - Thinking 'corporate' style - the fact that CF is NOT open source means that if anything goes wrong with CF itself, you have somewhere to go where you are guarenteed service. Not the case with RoR. Or true of any OS software. Just a thought - but

[cfaussie] Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Personally I havent got down with the RoR yet, so I'm not familiar with the ruby language. In terms of a Flex/CF setup there are a lot of benefits. Basically you got the weight of Adobe pushing this combination to enable quick deployment of apps. That includes documentation, examples, engineer

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Blair McKenzie
Besides the support issues, there is also a level of polish in CF that other languages don't have. Some points are:CF components are an access=remote away from being web servicesquery-of-queries custom tags - they may seem like a trivial feature but can make code incredibly intuitiveBlairOn

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Dale Fraser
There are lots of reasons. It doesn't just give you web stuff it gives you a lot more, like PDF, report writing, Flash / Flex hooks It leverages the power of Java without the complexity. Compared to pulling in lots of different OS / Free solutions to achieve the same result, you are better off

[cfaussie] Decrypt all cfm pages for a site

2006-08-29 Thread tpino
Hi All, I'm a newbie to cold fusion and was looking for a way to decryt all pages for our website in one hit. We have a decrypt exe, but that only allows me to do one page at a time. I am trying to track down a problem and need to search all the cfm pages for keywords. Any suggestions would be

[cfaussie] Re: Decrypt all cfm pages for a site

2006-08-29 Thread ACTCFUG
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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Dale Fraser
Name the company behind PHP. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:01 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Barry Beattie
that's my point RonR is following on from the lessons learned from PHP DHH is the new Rasmus Lerdorf my guess is that RonR is (deliberatly or not) stealing ground from PHP, because of cost and opensource. it's just that it seems it's doing the same to CF. On 8/30/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL

[cfaussie] Re: Decrypt all cfm pages for a site

2006-08-29 Thread Haikal Saadh
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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread rod . higgins
No sorry, my point was Java is a little different to .Net and CF as is php. Java code is open you can do what ever you like with it even rewrite the core code in each release if you wish. CF and .Net are not open at all so it's strange that you included Java in with CF and .Net. my .02 Name

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Dale Fraser
I see, But I picked them for my comment I wouldn't be jumping on any platform that wasn't provided by a main stream player Thus, I don't know who provides PHP. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stanton
RoR is super simple if you are following DHH's blog in 15 minutes presentation. After that it does get considerably harder and you are, god forbid, expected to learn something of the ruby language and the mechanics of the rails framework. I spent about 100 hours building an app in it earlier

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Barry Beattie
Dale, I'm sure there's a lot of PHP developers that don't know either, nor care. the same for their bosses and their clients. so which Ghostbusters are you going to call if something goes wrong? mothership Adobe that has it's own adgenda? (Let's see how many old CF bugs get sorted with CF8,

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stanton
You get 2 of those 3 in RoR On 8/30/06, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides the support issues, there is also a level of polish in CF that other languages don't have. Some points are: CF components are an access=remote away from being web services query-of-queries custom tags -

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread cfgroupie
Doods, I brought this up a few lists ago. I'm currently battling to keep CF as well. But its a battle that is going to end with MS being the winner. Firstly; RoR there is one for ColdFusion called CFWheels do a google search. However it only works with Apache and for the most part I couldn't

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Dale Fraser
When presenting different technologies to the Board here, the first question the chairman asked. Q: Who makes ColdFusion A: Adobe Now if I had been pitching PHP. Q: Who makes PHP A: Ahh, Not sure a bunch of guys, but you shouldn't care! Yeah, right I'm not sure what type of business you work

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Scott
Hmmm, Without going further into the argument, or what RoR is. But to me RoR looks and smells like MG:U Or am I missing something? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread cfgroupie
The issue isn't if BlueDragon is cheaper or not. The fact of the matter is the Server licences cost to much. We have are LARGE application that is writtin in CF but will be pushed to .NET because its cheaper to buy studio and distribute our application then it is to buy CF server/s licence and

[cfaussie] Decrypt all cfm pages for a site

2006-08-29 Thread Scott Thornton
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[cfaussie] Free books to a new home

2006-08-29 Thread ACTCFUG
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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Onnis
When you look at it like that, how much is .NET Studio? About the same cost as a CFServer License? PRO version anyway. Yet you can, as I would imagine many people on this list are doing, either still developing their CF apps on software thats 3 yrs old or is free like eclipse. Correct me if I

[cfaussie] [OT] grep (Was: Decrypt all cfm pages for a site)

2006-08-29 Thread Haikal Saadh
WinGrep I used to use it when I used windows. Has right-click shell integration... quite nice. These days I just use QuickSilver to pop open a terminal window, as use grep the old school way. (That is, if I'm not using eclipse atm). Scott Thornton wrote: Hmm, I downloaded a version of

[cfaussie] Re: [OT] grep (Was: Decrypt all cfm pages for a site)

2006-08-29 Thread Lindsay Evans
I'm using UnxUtils [http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/] Quite handy for old skool Unix freaks who are forced to use Windows Or you could just switch to a Mac :p /me hugs MacBook On 8/30/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WinGrep I used to use it when I used windows. Has right-click

[cfaussie] Re: Cool flash countdown clock

2006-08-29 Thread Tom MacKean
If you're gonna vote, here's a few more to add to the ballot http://ed.mullen.home.comcast.net/fclock.html Tom On 8/29/06, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should vote!I give two votes to the mbcomms 'clock' for originality (I like the writing and rubbing out idea!) and

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Scott
Ok, Coldfusion can be used with a development license, devnet license is free as long as it is never used in production. Now, with eclipse and all the plugins for svn, cvs, jira to name a few it is still free to develop any application I want. Now .Net has a steeper programming curve than CF

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Barry Beattie
I still see RoR the same as ModleGlue. but that's just how the apps get written/what to produce. in other words, CF is *not* the final word in RAD. and it doesn't deal with how much it costs to get it out there, which are the valid points that Jeremy and Steve are discussing. and that's the

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Andrew I still see RoR the same as ModleGlue. Here is the rails API documentation: http://api.rubyonrails.com/ If you take the ColdSpring, MG, Reactor and CFAjax + big chunks of the CF language (where CF is abstracting away tricky stuff like queries, mail, includes, custom tags, etc..)

[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Scott
And spend a fortune developing the libraries or 3rd party libraries Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: