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> > If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with
> > Video4Linux and a big
> > hard drive (40-80 GB). Unless you find the right software, you
> > wouldn't get the full range of features you'd get on a TiVo (like
> > skipping commercials), but it'll record of the TV just f
>
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:44:42 -0600 Mark J Roberts writes:
> > Timm Murray:
> > > If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with
> > > Video4Linux and a big hard drive (40-80 GB).
> >
> > What's worth watching?
>
> Lots of things. Alias is GOOD!! And OMG I LOVE Dark Angel!
kjc> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:44:42 -0600 Mark J Roberts writes:
>> Timm Murray:
>> > If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with
>> > Video4Linux and a big hard drive (40-80 GB).
>>
>> What's worth watching?
kjc> Lots of things. Alias is GOOD!! And OMG I LOVE Dark Angel!!! :
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:27:26 -0500 David T-G
writes:
> You have *wy* too much patience. I don't need the tuner, but as
> soon
> as the sound went it would be in the yard sale pile :-) [Our VCR is
> a
> fairly effective, though basically dumb, hub for our digital input
> as
> well as som
Aaron --
...and then krepta at juno.com said...
%
% On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:37:25 GMT "Timm Murray"
% writes:
% >
% > fact, my VCR is on the fritz (it only records in black & white,
...
%
% I've got a VCR that gradualy stoped being able to view channels until the
% tuner completely went out.
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:44:42 -0600 Mark J Roberts writes:
> Timm Murray:
> > If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with
> > Video4Linux and a big hard drive (40-80 GB).
>
> What's worth watching?
Lots of things. Alias is GOOD!! And OMG I LOVE Dark Angel!!! :)
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:37:25 GMT "Timm Murray"
writes:
> > On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 krepta at juno.com wrote:
> >
> > > I think Content on Demand has a future. Thats what freenet is.
> But TV,
> > > hmmm, I dunno. Advertisers really want people to watch thier
> stuff at
> > > particular times of
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 09:03:38 -0500 (EST) Kevin Atkinson
writes:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 krepta at juno.com wrote:
>
> > I think Content on Demand has a future. Thats what freenet is.
> But TV,
> > hmmm, I dunno. Advertisers really want people to watch thier
> stuff at
> > particular times of
TM> If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with Video4Linux
and a big
TM> hard drive (40-80 GB). Unless you find the right software, you wouldn't
get the full range of features you'd get on a TiVo (like skipping commercials),
but it'll record of the TV just fine. In
TM> f
>> > As I side note does anyone here believe that the Recording Industry does
>> > *not* deserve to die.
>>
>> The music recording industry *as it currently exists* is a filthy cesspool
>> of corruption. I'm not sure what the best remedy for this condition is.
KA> Simple, let them die. We really
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 09:04:56PM -0500, Aaron Guy Davies wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Travis Bemann wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:54:27AM -0500, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
> > > I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation. If
> > > this develops into a flame war I'm
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Travis Bemann wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:54:27AM -0500, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
> > I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation. If
> > this develops into a flame war I'm out of here.
> >
> > With the reality that copy protection is going to fail
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 krepta at juno.com wrote:
>
> > I think Content on Demand has a future. Thats what freenet is. But TV,
> > hmmm, I dunno. Advertisers really want people to watch thier stuff at
> > particular times of day or night, or during special events like the Super
> > Bowl. They wi
Timm Murray:
> If you want, you could get a TV-in card that is compatible with
> Video4Linux and a big hard drive (40-80 GB).
What's worth watching?
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TB> Do *any* businesses, or industries for that matter, have a "right" to
TB> exist?
To answer this question one would first have to ask, does any *person*
have a right to exist?
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 krepta at juno.com wrote:
> I think Content on Demand has a future. Thats what freenet is. But TV,
> hmmm, I dunno. Advertisers really want people to watch thier stuff at
> particular times of day or night, or during special events like the Super
> Bowl. They will try hard
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Travis Bemann wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 10:44:32AM -0700, colbyd wrote:
> > I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that elite producers will not win
> > the content-control battle.
> >
> > why?:
> >
> > 1. asymmetrical bandwidth access--consumers can't run servers; do
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Kevin Atkinson (kevin at atkinson.dhs.org) wrote:
>
> > if people can get the show
> > they want when they want with little to no cost then why will the average
> > joe bother hunting down the video on file sharing services?
>
> You are absolutely correc
--- Kevin Atkinson wrote:
> With the reality that copy protection is going to
> fail and the fact that
> once everyone gets high speed internet connections
> entire movies will we
> able to be swapped much like music is now, does
> content on demand TV have
> a future? My theory is that it might
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:49:10AM +1300, David McNab wrote:
>
> TB> Do *any* businesses, or industries for that matter, have a "right" to
> TB> exist?
>
> To answer this question one would first have to ask, does any *person*
> have a right to exist?
No, one does not need to ask this. First, t
> I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation. If
> this develops into a flame war I'm out of here.
Umm, this is freenet-chat. You'd have better luck having an intelligent
conversation on
Slashdot.
>
> With the reality that copy protection is going to fail and the fact
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:49:10 +1300 David McNab
writes:
>
> TB> Do *any* businesses, or industries for that matter, have a
> "right" to
> TB> exist?
>
> To answer this question one would first have to ask, does any
> *person*
> have a right to exist?
I don't think that question needs to be as
Hey travis, do you have a job?
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Subject:Re: [freenet-chat] Does Content on
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 10:44:32AM -0700, colbyd wrote:
> I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that elite producers will not win
> the content-control battle.
>
> why?:
>
> 1. asymmetrical bandwidth access--consumers can't run servers; download
> speeds much higher than ul speeds; use of virt
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:47:05 -0500 Travis Bemann
writes:
> Do *any* businesses, or industries for that matter, have a "right"
> to
> exist?
Well, they only have a right to exist so far as the law is concerned. In
other words, they have the right to not be taken out of existance by
legal actio
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:54:27 -0500 (EST) Kevin Atkinson
writes:
> I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation.
> If
> this develops into a flame war I'm out of here.
Sounds good so far. :)
>
> With the reality that copy protection is going to fail and the fact
> that
>
Kevin Atkinson (kevin at atkinson.dhs.org) wrote:
> if people can get the show
> they want when they want with little to no cost then why will the average
> joe bother hunting down the video on file sharing services?
You are absolutely correct here. But I don't think that the media
companies are
Travis Bemann (bemann at execpc.com) wrote:
> Do *any* businesses, or industries for that matter, have a "right" to
> exist?
This is based upon the right of property -- i.e., to maintain an exclusive
privilege of use over a physical resource. I think most people (including
me) believe in the rig
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that elite producers will not win
the content-control battle.
why?:
1. asymmetrical bandwidth access--consumers can't run servers; download
speeds much higher than ul speeds; use of virtual private networks to
reduce content-serving by end-users, etc.
2.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:54:27AM -0500, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
> I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation. If
> this develops into a flame war I'm out of here.
>
> With the reality that copy protection is going to fail and the fact that
> once everyone gets high speed in
I am going to try once again to start an intelligent conversation. If
this develops into a flame war I'm out of here.
With the reality that copy protection is going to fail and the fact that
once everyone gets high speed internet connections entire movies will we
able to be swapped much like musi
Kevin Atkinson:
> With the reality that copy protection is going to fail and the fact that
> once everyone gets high speed internet connections entire movies will we
> able to be swapped much like music is now
Why?
> if people can get the show they want when they want with little to
> no cost the
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