I have kept my 'nose'out of it Marsha but I honestly don't think anyone was
out to bash you or try to belittle you.
My opinion and you know I am a breeder.
Mare
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First, rest assured you are NOT being mean by confining your little
furbaby when he can not be properly supervised...you are being
responsible! An unsupervised, free running pup is a recipie for disaster!
As for if you should litter box train, take out, or pad train, that is all
a matter of persona
She is just gorgeous..
huggles
Pat in OK
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Date: 11/11/2008 11:42:57 AM
To: chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Chihuahuas] Our new chi Lacy
Oh both you little girls are just so pretty
Huggles
Pat in OK
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Date: 11/11/2008 11:45:16 AM
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Subject: [Chihuahuas] Lacy and my daughter
I'm so happy for you! She's gorgeous!! It's wonderful she's bonded with your
daughter.
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right..the mom don't meet the size standards...but the resulting pups do
Marsha
> I can understand breeding a dog with a cosmetic fault to another one who
> will compensate for that fault like you said below. But, when you are
> talking about size over 6 pounds in the Chihuahua standard, you
honestly, I do feel as if I am being looked at as a bad breeder because of
the facts I have stated. What is funny is that non of my breeders are
going over the limit except cay by a few oz, but I never indicated my own
breeding practices, I only indicated what is common and acceptable within
the br
If its not meant to be bashing, then why can't you all just let it go?
Opinions are welcomed here and often are a good source for debate but
shouldn't
be used to be judgmental.
Gloria P
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I can understand breeding a dog with a cosmetic fault to another one who will
compensate for that fault like you said below. But, when you are talking about
size over 6 pounds in the Chihuahua standard, you aren't talking about just a
"fault". You are talking about a disqualifying fault, which
I know that also. But she did or rather her husband did have the dog checked
out real good before he bought him. He was neutered
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this may be, but show breeders show their bitches, right?
you can not show an over six pound Chi AKC
the woman I got my girls from breeds 5-6 pound females, I never asked the
size of the males, but her dogs tend to run 3.5 to 5.5 pounds
she breeds national champions ( and an overseas champion recen
so cute! Look at the baby fuzz
_
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Thank you, Norma. Here's Ce
oh my goodness what a beautiful dog so cute and cuddley.
Hugs,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] a new pic of tequilaTo: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:22 PM
believe it or not, bites are considered health related, not
cosmeticmost breeders will NOT breed one with a bad bite. If the bite
is only slightly off, they may try one time to fix it, but if it is a
noticable bad bite, it wont be bred
Marsha
> Oh yeah like a shitzu my daughter had once.
no problem. I am known in the chi community for breeding smaller than most
will. That is my "thing"...like some breed merles, some are known for
their brindles, ect...I am known for my smaller ones. I do not have any
breeders over 6 pounds, except Cay, who is only a few oz over..but the
majorit
Thank you, Norma. Here's Cesar as a 12 week old baby..
Gloria P
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Cesar is a good looking dog too. I love looking at his pics I just love his
color.
Norma
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Marsha,
It's a shame that you think your "being bashed" all of us "non breeders" have
simple questions, that want simple answers. We all have our own opinion of what
is right and wrong. If breeding an over size dog's is not the AkC standard why
is it done? It will produce oversize dog's. You adm
That is what I thought. I know people that will bash a breeder if they breed
merles, but if you are careful it can be done right.
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Oh yeah like a shitzu my daughter had once. She got him cheap because he had
a overbite that disqualified him from the ring.
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the merle IS a recognised color for chis. Yes the CCA tried to have the
color banned, but the motion failed, so as of now it is still recognised.
Marsha
>
> Yea, I hear where you're coming from. I don't breed and leave that up
> to reputable breeders.
> If I wanted to show my Chi - I would do my
Cesar is a good looking dog too. I love looking at his pics I just love his
color.
Norma
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No bashing here Marsha. I asked out of curiosity and I know several breeders
who don't use bigger female chi's. And according to them the reason they
don't is because you can't better the breed using bigger chi's. You won't
always know what you get. I am not a breeder and never would be but I was
c
when I refer to faults, I am not refering to genetic/health related
faults, like heart murmers, bad kness, ectno, we never breed
thosewhat I mean is a dog with a cosmetic fault that disqualifies from
show. For instance, you have a "rat tail" on an otherwise great dog.it
can be fixed by
Tequila is precious. He still have a baby face and look. My Cesar is 4
months older and I think he has lost his "baby" look.
Gloria P
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I thought I would show these two pics I took tonight o
The emphasis here should be on the part of Dasha's statement that says "if
they are producing bigger chis". We are not producing bigger chis when we
use bigger mommas. We are bringing the size down with the male. The
"produced pups" are falling within the size standard...and if they don't,
we proba
Hi, Our little Shivers is 13 weeks old today and weighs just 3
pounds. He is very lovable. He is also the first puppy we've ever
had...so not sure we're doing things right.
We got a baby gate and put it across the door to our front bathroom
which is a good size. We put paper in one corner..
well, since I seem to be getting a bit of bashing and since most of it
seems to be comming from non breeders in the first place, I thought I
would put the question to my fellow breeders. Below is a cut and paste of
my question to them and their responses. I DID delete the names of the
responders to
I am not Elizabeth but I can say that a litter box is indeed cheaper,
especially if you line it with newspaper like I do.
Gloria P
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Elizabeth, do you think it's cheaper and easier with the li
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I use a litterbox with litter. I tried the newspaper, but when Katie peed, the
urine would run onto her feet. I didn't like that at all. So I stick with the
litter. As for eating the litter - Katie did that a lot when she was very
young. Then she did it less and less as she got older. She'
Hi, Stefanie!
I think it is cheaper and its certainly so much easier! I never have to
look anywhere but the box! I also sometimes use paper and sometimes I put pads
in the box; but I don't use newspaper because I don't want them exposed to the
ink. Some people do and have never had a probl
Hi, Stefanie!
I think it is cheaper and its certainly so much easier! I never have to
look anywhere but the box! I also sometimes use paper and sometimes I put pads
in the box; but I don't use newspaper because I don't want them exposed to the
ink. Some people do and have never had a probl
Hi, Gloria!
I use the urine trick when traveling too! It always amazes people when I put
down a pad (that has secretly been touched with urine) in the gate area and my
"Boys" immediately pee on it! Aren't we entertaining! Haha!
Elizabeth
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Hi, Gloria!
Of course, I was so excited to hear that you were trying the litter box
that I forgot to answer your question!! I had a box made (my brother took pity
on me) to fit a pad first and then I went to litter. That way both of my boys
could use it at the same time! My little 10 mont
Thank you Gloria! It drives me crazy to have pads in every room.
They are use to it now! Before I pads in only the bathrooms - But training
the puppy is a challenge - she goes in every room. I can slowly take
the pads away and designate the litter box to the 2 bathrooms.
They go potty & play
exactly the point I've been trying to make. your message is more concise, Thank
you.
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> To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed
yes. And once again I agree with sheila.
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> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:44 PM
> Just curiou
I use a regular litter box, has a lower front than back, at first I tried using
the litter they sell to use in it (little green pellets) but Cesar, who was a
baby at the time, decided he wanted to eat some and then throw the rest all
over the room.? So, I threw away the bag of pellets and ?inste
Just curious, with these larger females/smaller males, don't breeders get a
lot of oversized Chis?
===
>From what I have been reading yes they do. Unless you have had the dogs for
generations you would have no way of knowing what their heritage is. You
could take a 6 pound fe
Well I understand what you are saying, what I am saying is that a breeder
can't be breeding to improve the breed if they are producing bigger chi's
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Also, the same applies for faults. If you have a parent that has a fault,
that does not necessarily mean you do not breed them, that means you breed
to another parent that will compensate for that fault. The goal is what is
produced, not what is being used to produce it. But again, safety of the
Yea, I hear where you're coming from. I don't breed and leave that up
to reputable breeders.
If I wanted to show my Chi - I would do my research and find the ones
who are currently showing, interview them, figure if I can co-own, check out
Chihuahua Club of America, ask a bunch of questions, the
you say most of those have to be c-sectioned.that is what most of us
breeders try to avoid. I personally will never breed a dog again once it
has a section. I just had two of my best dogs spayed because they had to
deliver by section and I wont breed again if they do.
Marsha
> Stefanie,
> I ag
Stefanie,
I agree.. show breeders are always trying to improve the quality of the breed.
Because of that they don't just breed to breed. Or because they "love' the
breed. Of course they love the breed, but they also are trying to improve the
breed. My Friend and breeder will not breed a female w
I would venture a bet that at least half the show dogs came from mommas
over 6 pounds. Can you get a bigger chi? Yes, of course, but then again
you can get a bigger chi from two smaller parents as well. This is why you
don't just take two dogs and start breeding them. A good breeder knows
their lin
and what are they disqualified from? SHOWS. They are not disqualified from
being chis, lol. Many people on this group have bigger chis, and they are
still chis...they are just not permitted to be shown. But all this
conversation comes about from my mentioning that breeders often use larger
than 6 p
Just curious, with these larger females/smaller males, don't breeders get a lot
of oversized Chis? The mother must pass on something to the pups. I would
think that size ( of momma and daddy) would be something that can be passed on
to some pups??? Maybe that's why we've ended up with so many
Elizabeth, do you think it's cheaper and easier with the litterbox, as opposed
to the pads? Maybe I can try to switch Gizmo to a litter box.
Stefanie
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But that is incorrect and is where genetics comes into play. Lets say for
instance I have a 5 pound female, bred to a 4 pound male...they produce
pups within the 4 to 5 pound range, but lo and behold, there is a
throwback female pup that will mature to 7 pounds. That pup (considering
everything els
What I did with Gizmo (he's pee pad trained) was only give him a little freedom
at a time. I blocked off the rooms I didn't want him to potty in and kept the
pee pads in the ones that he could potty in. At first I opened up one room at a
time when I knew he was using his pee pads. Eventually I
AKC standared says size is "not to exceed 6 pounds. Any dog over 6 pounds is
disqualified."
Stefanie
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I think it depends on the breeder. If your are truly breeding to improve the
breed standard, you would follow the AKC standard and use dog's that meet the
standard. IE 6lbs or less. This is why we have people on this sight, posting
they have dog's over the weight standard, when "the breeder" tol
I hope it works for you, Gloria! I think I have fewer accidents
because now they know they have to step over before they go.
Before that they saw the pad and thought they were on it, buy lo and
behold, only their heads were on, not the "Important" parts!
Elizabeth
--- On Wed, 11/12/08, G Chas
Thanks a bunch, Elizabeth.
I can go to Petco to find that litter for dogs, plus the box.
It gets old to place pads in several areas of the house!
The tootsie rolls are not a problem - those are picked up
right away. I put them out once they are finished with their meals.
That helps!
I'll ke
rightwe do strive to improve the standardswhich is why we use
smaller males to bring the size of the pups down within range. The AKC
standards call for 6 pounds or less. We try to produce pups that are 6
pounds or less (but the bigger ones are still chis!) BUT, we were not
talking about the
Hi, Gloria!
I first moved the pads to a box, then I removed the
pads and used a special litter for dogs that I get at Petco. The
name, however, escapes me right now! I put them in their pens,
just as I did the pads! I remove the "tootsie rolls" either
immediately or when I get back from w
Litter box trained!! I will attempt that. All of the our Chi's go on the
pad except for Jaz, she was the adopted one who goes on the newspaper.
Otherwise - they'll go on the throw rugs if there are no pads down.
What do you all put in the litter boxes? What size box do you use?
Thanks!Glo
Oh ok. I just read a lot and one of the things I have been told over and
over is that breeders should breed to the standard which is set by AKC and
the chi breeder's club. I know that a lot of people don't breed to improve
the breed but breed out of love for the dog. Thanks for answering
-O
6 pounds is the AKC breed standard. Not Breeding standard, but breed
standardin other words the standard for the breed. You can not show a
dog over 6 pounds. However, when I said the standard for breeding, what I
meant is the average that breeders use to breed/reproduce. 6 to 8 pounds
is a pret
Hi !
Mine are also litter boxed trained! But I did as
Arlene. I put it where they also liked to go and then moved it
gradually until it was where I wanted it!
Elizabeth
P.S, It does take time, though!
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hi i read your email, i didn't answer because i dont have the answer. mine
are trained for pee pads but it is a hit and sometimes miss. i woul try this,
but if she is going in one place put a pad there and as she goes on the pad
move the pad a little at a time till you get it where you want
Can anyone help me on what I posted.It the orginial-8 month old
layla
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So sad to hear this happened.
Mare~
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Date: 11/11/2008 7:18:43 PM
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] 8 Month old Layla
my Pit mix foster killed My Pepe, 2 1/2 # chi
broke her neck
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:21 PM, lizzy307 <[EMAIL
I'm SO sorry GJC!! We have a Great Dane and our little chi, Nitro.
Believe me, they are not allowed to play together but do socialize with
each other as much as we dare let them. Our Great Dane has no idea
that she could hurt the chi.
Pat S
SW Michigan
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, GJC
Here is what I got from the breed standard website It is not 5 pounds but 6
pounds. I will have to watch closer because I have never seen a show chi
over 6 pounds.
**"Size, Proportion, Substance
Weight A well balanced little dog not to exceed 6 pounds. Proportion The
body is off-square;
Oh my goodness, Glenda!
I am so sorry about your little Pepe! I supervise
everything Idon't even let my 2 1/2 yr old 8 lb chi play unattended
with his baby brother 10 mo old 4 pounder! I feel soo badly for
you.
Elizabeth
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Thanks for the info. I was always under the impression that the breed
standard was set at 5 pounds.
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no, not realy. I mean 5 pounds will be bred by most breeders if that is
what they have...it isn't considered too smallbut a whole lot of our
breeding females are more in the 6 to 8 pound range. Even if you look at
the dame of a lot of show dogs, you will find the dames are over the 6
pound limi
I thought the standard for breeding was 5 pounds
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