Re: traceroute IP displays twice [7:51622]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett
Thanks Raj! Raj Santiago wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... i should have included this part as well to the previous post : 1 172.26.1.13 20 msec 172.26.1.2 20 msec 172.26.1.13 20 msec The above indicates, of the two possible paths the router has

Traceroute IP displays twice (previous post by Priscilla) [7:51633]

2002-08-19 Thread Vicuna, Mark
While we are on the topic.. I remember a post by Priscilla a few months ago now (I think) with a traceroute showing 2 path entries of the same ip. The result of the traceroute was not able to be reproduced (I think). Anyone remember what the outcome of this was? The archives are not

ISDN Help needed [7:51634]

2002-08-19 Thread Shane Stockman
I get the following error message as soon as I dial into the NAS.If I do a who on the NAS I can see that it gets connected but it disconnects as it cannot get authenticated. This my IOS on the NAS IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.2(8)T4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Erasing a password from a 3524 switch [7:51635]

2002-08-19 Thread Mamoon Dawood
Dear All, How to erase Enable password from 3524 switch, Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51635t=51635 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html

RE: ISDN Help needed [7:51634]

2002-08-19 Thread Claudia Walter
Hi Shane, looks like the CHAP fails at the point where they exchange the information. Make sure you have the following correctly configured: on FD_PMBURG: username ZA108005D password whatever on ZA108005D: username FD_PMBURG password whatever Hope that this helps, if not then you will have

Problem with Catalyst C1912 2924-XL [7:51637]

2002-08-19 Thread Maria
Hello everyone, I have in my lab at home a setup including a Catalyst C1912 (Running Enterprise Software) and a Catalyst 2924C-XL. The Cat 2925C-XL has 2 x FL ports. Between the Cat C1912 and the Cat 2924C-XL I have a Cat5 to FL media converter. Now If I hook the two up

DNS 6509 Problem [7:51638]

2002-08-19 Thread Richard Tufaro
Has anyone experienced intermittent DNS timeout issues with a 6509 switch? Locally the DNS server is functioning properly, but when across VLANS seems to be timeout out intermittent. Any help would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51638t=51638

RE: Problem with Catalyst C1912 2924-XL [7:51637]

2002-08-19 Thread Lupi, Guy
What happens if you enable an 802.1q trunk instead? The same thing? -Original Message- From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with Catalyst C1912 2924-XL [7:51637] Hello everyone, I have

OT: 2501 for sale [7:51640]

2002-08-19 Thread Mckenzie Bill
Group, I wanted to post it here first. I have a Cisco 2501 with 16 Dram 16 Flash that I need to sell from my study lab. If anyone is interested, please email me. Thanks, Bill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51640t=51640

Does cisco IOS support Frame Relay over ISDN... [7:51641]

2002-08-19 Thread Daowei Chen
Does Cisco IOS support Frame Relay over ISDN with multiple B channels bundling? If yes, how to config it? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51641t=51641 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:

Cisco Security Specialist 1 [7:51643]

2002-08-19 Thread Juan Blanco
Does the following is still available: For a limited time, candidates holding an active CCNP Security Specialization may obtain a Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification by passing the 9E0-571 CSPFA and 9E0-570 CSVPN exams. Thanks, Message Posted at:

RE: ISDN Help needed [7:51634]

2002-08-19 Thread Shane Stockman
I configured the following on the NAS and it then automaically worked. aaa authentication login default local aaa authentication login NO_AUTHEN none aaa authentication ppp default local aaa authorization network default local none aaa session-id common From: Claudia Walter To: Shane Stockman

Taking 640-604 Tommorrow [7:51644]

2002-08-19 Thread Clark, John
Any last minute advice or things I may need to review? Also if anyone is taking the exam soon and wants to review together you can contact me via AIM (Kewlb19) and we can review for the exam. to study I have used: Network Academy Semester 7 Cisco Press CCNP Switching Exam Certification Guide

802.1x Security on a 3550 [7:51645]

2002-08-19 Thread Brian Zeitz
Has anyone heard/used this yet? It allows you to authenticate users/Pass with a Radius Server using a 3550 switch (or higher end cat switch). This is an awesome idea to implement security on the LAN. I am planning on implementing it soon, don't get too excited, because unless you are running

Re: 2500 End-of-Life (CCIE Lab)? [7:51589]

2002-08-19 Thread Chuck's Long Road
Tim Ross wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Have you been shopping eBay lately? Our personal lab investments are already trash. CL: all that means is that the lab rat pool has exceeded equilibrium, and that the supply of used stuff exceeds the demand of the

RE: ISDN-SIMULATION [7:51598]

2002-08-19 Thread Vicuna, Mark
$700? that's around $300 cheaper than the PDS/Blink-2's. Anyone recommend the Virtual Console product? Looks like the budget it more achievable with this one. ;) Cheers -Original Message- From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 19 August 2002 12:31 To: [EMAIL

RE: OSPF on secondary IP addresses [7:51525]

2002-08-19 Thread Thorne Gene
I looked at the doc for the network area command for 11.3, 12.0, 12.1 and 12.2. They all appear to treat secondary addresses the same way--the secondary network is not advertised if the primary network/area statement is deleted. Message Posted at:

CSS Content Replication [7:51647]

2002-08-19 Thread John Neiberger
Does anyone have their CSS configured for Content Staging and Replication? I'm still researching a new method to push out new content to our web servers without having to manually move the files to each server individually. I've checked into a few methods so far but most actually make the

IP Multicast. [7:51648]

2002-08-19 Thread Jose Tomás Pinal Salvador
Hello Group. Does anybody know where can I find a complete information about the IP Multicast tecnoloy? Thanks. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at:

question re RED [7:51650]

2002-08-19 Thread bergenpeak
When RED is running on an interface, do packets get dropped before being put into the queue (at the tail, based on ave queue size, etc) or do they get dropped when they reach the head of the queue? Is there any difference in when packets are dropped when WRED is being used (instead of RED)?

ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett
Can a straight through cat 5 cable be used for ISDN connectivity in a lab (between 2 2503's)? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51651t=51651 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:

Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Maximus
This is how I learn: =) Running IOS on my 6509, I wanted to see the amount of downtime I would cause by deliberately causing the primary SUP to fail by one executing a reload on the primary module and two simply pulling the primary from the chassis. heeheehee What I found was the reload caused

RE: IP Multicast. [7:51648]

2002-08-19 Thread Larry Letterman
for a start you can get the book on IP multicast from Cisco Press by Beau Williamson...It covers most of it in detail... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose Tomas Pinal Salvador Sent:

Weird syslog. [7:51656]

2002-08-19 Thread Leo Song
Would anyone help on this? Somehow I got the following so weird logging messages on my 1720 router, thanks in advance. #sh log Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 1 flushes, 0 overruns) Console logging: level debugging, 190429 messages logged Monitor logging: level debugging,

RE: Simple (silly) question on PING [7:51580]

2002-08-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
cebuano wrote: Just want to follow up on my first question. It turned out to be a misbehaving interface, i.e. Layer 1 issue. You do get a reply with a broadcast Ping from each host in the subnet. However, in spite of the one router interface giving me issues, I'm Still trying to TRACE

Re: ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett
is it really worth it? Johnny Routin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... No, you need an isdn simulator. -- Johnny Routin Robert D. Cluett wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can a straight through cat 5 cable be used for ISDN

Call Manager Windows2000 Advanced Server [7:51659]

2002-08-19 Thread Hamid
Hi, Reading the Installation notes of Call Manager, I found that it mentiones only Cisco Media Convergence Server (MCS), customer-provided Compaq DL320 or DL380, or IBM xSeries server. Is it reaaly limited to these 3 platforms And by the way, could you Install Call Manager on a Windows

RE: ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651]

2002-08-19 Thread Jim Brown
You probably won't be able to pass the lab without practice on a simulator or the real thing. -Original Message- From: Robert D. Cluett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651] is it really worth

Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Chris Sweeting
I have 2 T1 going to the Internet on a 2600 Cisco. I want to load balance in a way that a certain range go out one port and another range go out another port. Any suggestions Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51661t=51661

RE: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Larry Letterman
I am assuming that both these are sup1/msfc1 modules... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maximus Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multiple

Re: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread John Neiberger
Policy-based routing would allow you to accomplish this goal. Look up PBR on CCO to get configuration details. Something like this would be easy to setup. One question: what specifically are you load-balancing? Web servers offering up content to outside users, or internal users accessing web

Filtering [7:51667]

2002-08-19 Thread Chris Sweeting
What is the best tools for fiterring mp3's on a 2600 router in general Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51667t=51667 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report

AAA Authentication [7:51668]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett
I am going to install some sort of accounting and privlidge managment on an access server. Essentially I want to restrict certain commands from being used and log the amount of time that a user has used the system. Is there a method or application that will best suit this? Message Posted

Re: Call Manager amp; Windows2000 Advanced Server [7:51659]

2002-08-19 Thread Brad Ellis
Hamid, I'd recommend checking the groupstudy archives. I think we've beaten this horse dead a couple times already. Quick answer, Yes, you can load call mangler on any PC running windows 2000 server. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to set default route in 3550 [7:51616]

2002-08-19 Thread John Huston
The 3550 works like a 2951 or a like any Cisco IOS router. I assume you have a layer three 3550 that has all Gigabit ports in it? If so then, the default route would be 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Johnzaggat wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am basically trying to do

Re: Call Manager Windows2000 Advanced Server [7:51659]

2002-08-19 Thread Art Davis
It's true that you can install Call Mangler on any Win2k Server, but if you want TAC support I suggest checking out these links: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/serv/mkt/sup/svsptl/iptlsv/cmuni_qp.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/752/qrg/cpqrg4.htm#70271 I've installed CM on the Compaq

Re: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Maximus
SUP 1/MSFC 2 - Original Message - From: Larry Letterman To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: RE: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654] I am assuming that both these are sup1/msfc1 modules... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Brunner Joseph
you can block kazaa, etc with a simple access list.. all those fast track network front end clients (kazaa, grokster, etc) work on tcp/1214 so for me it would be access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq 1214 access-list 101 permit ip any any keep adding access-list 101 deny * * eq as you find

RE: 2500 End-of-Life (CCIE Lab)? [7:51589]

2002-08-19 Thread Nnanna Obuba
Actually..a minor point of correction. I have 12.1 code running on my 3104s :) Nnanna Obuba CCIE # 6586 www.nantech.com/software Become a BGP Guru for only $75 !! --- Kelly Cobean wrote: Additionally, from a business and/or testing standpoint, there is no reason to take the 2500 series

How to force a gratuitous ARP [7:51674]

2002-08-19 Thread John Neiberger
I'm planning on moving routing responsibilities from a router to our 6513 and I *really* need to minimize downtime. I'll be moving an interface IP address from one device to another and this is the default gateway for all devices on that network. The problem is that all devices on that subnet

RE: AAA Authentication [7:51668]

2002-08-19 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan
No problem, this will explain it(watch the wrap): http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/secu r_c/scprt1/index.htm -Original Message- From: Robert D. Cluett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/19/02 4:29 PM Subject: AAA Authentication [7:51668] I am going to

RE: How to force a gratuitous ARP [7:51674]

2002-08-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Can you stand 2 minutes of downtime? What are these devices on the subnet? If they are Windows machines, you may not have a problem. Just take 2 minutes to make your change and the entry for the default gateway will be gone from the devices' ARP cache! The timeout for ARP entries for Windows is

Defective Cisco AP340 [7:51678]

2002-08-19 Thread Elijah Savage III
All, I have a Cisco access point 340 and only after being booted up for about 5 minutes the Ethernet port seems to lock up. Has anyone seen this before or recommend anything. I have used a different switch tried hard coding the speed and duplex but still the same thing happens. Message

RE: question re RED [7:51650]

2002-08-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
bergenpeak wrote: When RED is running on an interface, do packets get dropped before being put into the queue (at the tail, based on ave queue size, etc) or do they get dropped when they reach the head of the queue? Incoming packets get dropped before being queued, based on the average

VLAN Encapsulation for Fibre [7:51680]

2002-08-19 Thread John Brandis
Hi All, What type of frame tagging Protocol is best for Gigabit Ethernet Fiber Interfaces. I understand that ISL is fine for standard fast ethernet , however .10 is perhaps better for this situation. Thanks for advice on VOIP. Got it all sorted out, thanks to the nice people at NEC and your

Re: How to force a gratuitous ARP [7:51674]

2002-08-19 Thread Kevin Cullimore
Does this network contain servers? workstations? Both? If the end-systems are running operating systems from the Northwestern United States, you could push down a registry change involving the arp cache timer. If they are dhcp clients, option 35 is supposed to be associated with that timer as

Re: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Ken Diliberto
I've been reading about the high availability in the 6500 (since we have one and are getting over a dozen more). What I understand so far is that the existing flows are used for about 2 minutes while the new active supervisor/MSFC relearns the network (routes, MAC's, etc). Not my idea of high

Re: Cisco Security Specialist 1 [7:51643]

2002-08-19 Thread Richard Lee
No, it is expired. Juan Blanco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does the following is still available: For a limited time, candidates holding an active CCNP Security Specialization may obtain a Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification by passing the 9E0-571

Re: Does Pix Support? [7:51519]

2002-08-19 Thread ipguru1
I can give you the name of a guy that LOVE'S MailSweeper. I have done a little admin duty on it, but he raves about it. That thing stops everything! email offline and I can give you his email Kevin O'Gilvie wrote: Hi All, I am pretty sure you all are in the same boat of spam

Re: How to force a gratuitous ARP [7:51674]

2002-08-19 Thread Kevin Cullimore
If the hosts are running snmp, and you have write access, it might be worth seeing if you can get away with a wellfleet trick, wherein you delete individual arp cache entries as they appear in the ipNetToMedia table (or proprietary equivalent) by setting the ipNetToMediaType value to 2, and then

Re: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Jagan Krishnaraj
Hi Maximus I am using 6509 Sup2, MSFC2 and native IOS. Condition is the same. If I pull the active sup it takes 2 minutes to reboot. And all the blades also reboot. Larry Is this the usual thing. Pls let me know this is the type of redundancy provided in Cat 6509. thanks jagan krishnaraj

Policy Routing Question [7:51689]

2002-08-19 Thread John Matney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been reading the Cisco CCNP Cert Guide in partial preparation for the BSCI exan and I've come across a bit in the Policy Routing section that I just don't understand. The text states: Policy routing does not allow traffic sent into another

RE: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Art Davis
QoS Device Manager (QDM) is a great tool (small java applet) for this. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/qdm/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/nemnsw/qodvmn/prodlit/qdm_ds.htm Requires 12.1(5)T or later on your 2600, as it uses CEF NBAR. Art Davis CCIE #6430

Re: question re RED [7:51650]

2002-08-19 Thread bergenpeak
Hi Priscilla, Thanks much for the response and the RFC reference. Would one still consider a vendor's implementation to be RED (compliant with RFC 2309) if packets at the head of the queue are dropped instead of at the tail? Thanks again. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: bergenpeak wrote:

ATM Management [7:51693]

2002-08-19 Thread Md Nazri
hi all, i'm wondering is there a way we can manage an end-to-end connection on ATM as what we have with LMI in FrameRelayTQ rgds nazri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51693t=51693 -- FAQ, list archives, and

RE: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Larry Letterman
we usually dont use dual msfc mods in our gateways..I'll ask some guys on my team and find out...an dpost the reply. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:34 PM To:

Re: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Michael L. Williams
When you have two Sups and you're running Native IOS, you cannot run HSRP between them...as you mentioned, one sup is active and the other is standby and there's about 90-120 seconds of downtime when one sup fails because the other sup has to re-initialize the hardware (the standby sup (if you

Re: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Clay Calvert
Jagan Krishnaraj wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Maximus I am using 6509 Sup2, MSFC2 and native IOS. Condition is the same. If I pull the active sup it takes 2 minutes to reboot. And all the blades also reboot. Just curious, have you set High-Availability?

Re: 802.1x Security on a 3550 [7:51645]

2002-08-19 Thread Chuck's Long Road
the documentation says it's supported, but since I don't have the means of setting up authentication and testing, I'll have to take someone else's word for it. BTW, all you folks who were dancing in the streets at the announcement of the removal of IPX, IGRP, and Token Ring, hope you are reading

RE: Filtering [7:51667]

2002-08-19 Thread Larkin, Richard
NBAR should do this -Original Message- From: Chris Sweeting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2002 4:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Filtering [7:51667] What is the best tools for fiterring mp3's on a 2600 router in general Message Posted at:

Aync Modem Problem [7:51701]

2002-08-19 Thread John Brandis
Hi All, Such a busy day.. configuring a 2509 with 2 modems connecting to async ports 1 and 2. The goal here, is to simply dial out. Have a simple config, Line Config of: modem autodiscovery modem inout line 1-2 Group-Async 1 group range 1 -2 ip unnumbered loopback1 encaps ppp async mode

RE: Switching and Remot access test [7:51128]

2002-08-19 Thread Suresh Naipal
Hi Joupin, That bascially sounds like what I did. I passed easily. Good luck. Kind regards, Swish Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51703t=51128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:

RE: Cisco 803 config [7:51129]

2002-08-19 Thread Suresh Naipal
Try ip address negotiated You may need to check http://www.cisco.com/go/fn to verify your current IOS supports it. Kind regards, Swish Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51702t=51129 -- FAQ, list archives, and

RE: Weird syslog. [7:51656]: nay help? [7:51704]

2002-08-19 Thread Leo Song
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Leo Song Sent: August 19, 2002 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Weird syslog. [7:51656] Would anyone help on this? Somehow I got the following so weird logging messages on my 1720 router, thanks in

RE: Multiple Supervisors 6509 Chassis; Native IOS [7:51654]

2002-08-19 Thread Larry Letterman
If you have two gateways(6509's) why goto the expense of two msfc's in each chassis ? The failure should cause the hsrp to switch to the secondary 6509. Thats the way we run ours on our campus... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Undeliverable mail--cellpadding [7:51708]

2002-08-19 Thread postmaster
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cellpadding The file is the original mail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51708t=51708 -- FAQ, list

Erasing a password from a 3524 switch [7:51709]

2002-08-19 Thread Mamoon Dawood
Dear All, How to erase Enable password from 3524 switch, Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51709t=51709 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html

RE: Traceroute IP displays twice (previous post by Pri [7:51710]

2002-08-19 Thread Magondo, Michael
Pricilla Have you tried this with R3 configured with multipoint interface. I am just curious if you will see the same behaviour. Mike -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 August 2002 08:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Traceroute

RE: IP Multicast. [7:51648]

2002-08-19 Thread Fathalla A. Fathalla
I have used the bellow mentioned download link. ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/ipmulticast/training/index.html Regards, Fathalla -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Letterman Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: