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Priscilla,
Ok, you caught me
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At 5:30 AM + 2/18/03, Ken
At 6:19 PM + 2/19/03, Vicky Rode wrote:
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hi,
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I'm loath to continue this discussion, but I do have a
question for Kelly.
Why do you have a VLAN at all in your example?? Isn't a
single VLAN sort of
like one hand clapping? Seriously, what role is it playing
in your network
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At 5:30 AM + 2/18/03, Ken Diliberto wrote:
The nit I'm picking is inline... (I'm feeling like chipping in tonight)
The Long and Winding Road
02/17/03 06:13PM
[snip]
if I have a 75xx router with 300 ethernet ports, and I bridge all
those
ports, do I have an L3 switch, or a router?
[KD]
.
Thanks!!
Stephen
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Stephen,
You're getting there. Let me give an example of how VLANs
are used
(I'd draw
.
Thanks!!
Stephen
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Stephen,
You're getting there. Let me give an example of how VLANs
are used
(I'd draw
Priscilla,
All I want is credit. :-)
Some guy on one of the many mailling lists I frequent put it this
way: (maybe not)
Ken
Priscilla Oppenheimer 02/18/03 12:06PM
[snip]
I think Ken's example is one of the cleanest I've seen. I may have to
borrow it for my classes.
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Priscilla,
All I want is credit. :-)
if it makes you feel better, Ken, I always credit you with at least two
cents worth
I'm going to be visiting some of your compadres int the next couple of
weeks. Dare I drop
of the fact that the MSFC
only has a
single VLAN.
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Howard,
It would be so much fun to not understand some of this up close. :-)
Howard C. Berkowitz 02/18/03 06:42AM
[snip]
Does that make a 7500 with VIPs a L3 switch? A 12000 with
distributed forwarding processors?
Substituting router for L3 switch is a good idea, but go farther than
DEar Stefen,
you are doing a bit of confusion:
so does layer 3 switching require the use of VLANs to actually do
the switching?
It's true the contrary case: the Vlans requires L3 to be routed, or, in
other terms, to comunicate each others. The L3 switching has no sens without
VLAN
Say for
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DEar Stefen,
you are doing a bit of confusion:
so does layer 3
so does layer 3 switching require the use of VLANs to actually do
the switching?
It's true the contrary case: the Vlans requires L3 to be routed, or, in
other terms, to comunicate each others. The L3 switching has no sens
without
VLAN
Right, I understand that inter-VLAN routing requires
Say for instance I have 2 hosts on the same layer 3 switch, but the
two
hosts are on 2 different IP subnets (No VLANs are defined).
That's not possible! if you are talking about 2 IP subnet, than:
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly recommend
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I've been following this thread, and have offered a comment or two along the
way. Perhaps I should offer some thoughts here at the source.
note that I have not read any of the exam study materials in question, so I
don't know what is or is not being stated in the courseware. I can offer
that just
This might help. What does the V stand for in VLAN? Virtual. VLANs are a
method for emulating Real LANs in a switched network. The original poster
seems disillusioned with VLANs. Well, I am too. :-) You can't do much with
them that you can't do with a bunch of Real LANs connected by routers.
good for you, Cil. This discussion was ( and still is, to judge from my
in-box ) filled with misdirection and poor information. Cisco and all the
other vendors are absolutely to blame for this.
a router is a function, not a device
so is a switch.
what does it matter where the function resides,
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly recommend doing
vlans if possible. keep it clean and simple.
one may also configure the physical interfaces as L3 interfaces - just as
one might do on a router with several ethernet ports.
Oo ok, now
hi,
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly recommend
doing
vlans if possible. keep it clean and simple.
one may also configure the physical interfaces as L3
Subject: Re: Does MLS (Layer 3 switching) require VLANs? [7:63147]
I've been following this thread, and have offered a comment or two along
the
way. Perhaps I should offer some thoughts here at the source.
note that I have not read any of the exam study materials in question, so
I
don't know what
Oppenheimer
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This might help. What does the V stand for in VLAN? Virtual. VLANs are a
method for emulating Real LANs in a switched network. The original poster
seems disillusioned with VLANs
(Layer 3 switching) require VLANs?
[7:63147]
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would
highly recommend doing
vlans if possible. keep it clean and simple.
one may also configure the physical interfaces as L3
interfaces - just as
one might do on a router
a
single VLAN.
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actually
hi stephen,
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Say for instance I have 2 hosts
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly recommend doing
vlans if possible. keep it clean and simple.
one may also configure the physical interfaces as L3 interfaces - just as
one might do on a router with several ethernet ports.
Oo
The nit I'm picking is inline... (I'm feeling like chipping in tonight)
The Long and Winding Road
02/17/03 06:13PM
[snip]
if I have a 75xx router with 300 ethernet ports, and I bridge all
those
ports, do I have an L3 switch, or a router?
[KD]
You have a router performing L2 operations
a
single VLAN.
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actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly
recomme
, February 18, 2003 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Does MLS (Layer 3 switching) require VLANs? [7:63147]
Stephen,
You're getting there. Let me give an example of how VLANs are used
(I'd draw a picture, but it probably wouldn't look good).
For this example, let's use two of the colleges on my university
I am studying for the CCNP Switching exam and it covers VLANs and layer 3
switching moderately. It states that Cisco recommends a 1 to 1 mapping of
VLANs to subnets. It also states that VLANs can be used to break up
broadcast domains.
When you create different subnets, you are already breaking up
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