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2001-09-25 Thread Moh'd, Quayoom
Raina I agree with you 100%. -Original Message- From: Tribavan Raina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue, September 25, 2001 6:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] Please stop this topic and start discussin cisco technology which

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2001-09-25 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi
12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my prometric-phone trouble... but att one of the testing sites, i told the secretary i was there. So she went

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2001-09-25 Thread MJ
ms wrote: Even if IDs are checked, how reliable are the ids in pakistan and india? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisc

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2001-09-25 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi
able are the ids in pakistan and india? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale

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2001-09-25 Thread Junaid Qadir
ay, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my prometric-phone trouble... but att one of the testi

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2001-09-25 Thread MJ
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very d

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2001-09-24 Thread Justin
ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my prometric-phone trouble... but att one of the testing sites, i told the secretary i was there. So she went to setup the test. 45 minutes later she still isnt back i suspect something is wrong :P so she comes back finaly

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2001-09-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I always was asked for two ID's, one with a photo. Rick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20893t=20747 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and

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2001-09-24 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] Hello Everyone, Well I have recently came to know such a case from Pakistan. I know a person who is from there and hold a degree of CCNP. Well I completed my CCNA in January and this is really amazing

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2001-09-24 Thread bproud proud
WIll cisco really think about this atleast now... Anybody from cisco inc on this board.. or every body got laid off :)) --- MJ wrote: Hello Everyone, Well I have recently came to know such a case from Pakistan. I know a person who is from there and hold a degree of CCNP. Well I

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2001-09-24 Thread sam adams
Even if IDs are checked, how reliable are the ids in pakistan and india? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya

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2001-09-24 Thread bproud proud
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my prometric-phone trouble... but att one of the testing sites, i told

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2001-09-24 Thread MJ
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my prometric-phone trouble...

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2001-09-24 Thread Tribavan Raina
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] ya it is very dependant on the person i suppose... i wont get into my p

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2001-09-23 Thread hal9001
, September 22, 2001 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] hal9001 wrote: I'm pretty sure I worked with one, kept disappearing back to Pakistan to do courses, but would come back in unfeasible short times waving paper. He eventually got fired for cutting through

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2001-09-23 Thread nrf
I think fraud, corruption, and cheating are just general problems in all facets of society, the only real difference being how much. From those who cheat on their college entrance exams, to those who claim academic credentials and work experience they do not have, to those who obtain multiple

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2001-09-23 Thread Art
- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of |nrf |Sent: Sun, September 23, 2001 1:53 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] | | |I think fraud, corruption, and cheating are just general |problems in all |facets of society, the only real

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2001-09-23 Thread Muhammad Zahid
Dear All, This is not true as far as pakistan concern, I do not know about India, I am a Pakistani and i have done my CCNP in after two and half years of hard work and now i m doing my CCIE, If any one know any thing like that anywhere in the world and you have a prove of it then please report

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2001-09-23 Thread bproud proud
Its true.. Both pak and india have mushroomed training centers and prometric testing centers and there is nothing like an ID in both the countries. So even You and I can just go in and write tests for anybody for money. I have seen couple of guys here in USA from those countries who dosent know

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2001-09-23 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi
I am not sure about Cisco certifications but this was indeed true for MS certifications in India and Pakistan, where people use to sit for their friends and give their exams by charging handsome amounts. Those so called friends use to do it for Canadian Immigration mostly. I know lots of Canadian

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2001-09-23 Thread Donny Mateo
Reply-To: bproud proud To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:43:45 -0400 Its true.. Both pak and india have mushroomed training centers and prometric testing centers and there is nothing like an ID in both the countries. So even You

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2001-09-23 Thread Justin
speaking of ID... i've taken a couple of tests at different prometric testing places in melbourne, australia, and not one of them has asked for any ID. i havnt had to sign anything or give any information etc, so it would be incredibly easy to obtain a nice shiny certificate with your own

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2001-09-23 Thread Kevin Wigle
: Sunday, 23 September, 2001 22:32 Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] speaking of ID... i've taken a couple of tests at different prometric testing places in melbourne, australia, and not one of them has asked for any ID. i havnt had to sign anything or give any information

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2001-09-23 Thread Tony van Ree
No if they weren't asked. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Justin To: Sent: Sunday, 23 September, 2001 22:32 Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] speaking of ID... i've taken a couple of tests at different prometric testing places in melbourne, australia

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2001-09-23 Thread Baker, Jason
that anyone who takes certification seriously would answer No if they weren't asked. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Justin To: Sent: Sunday, 23 September, 2001 22:32 Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] speaking of ID... i've taken

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2001-09-23 Thread MJ
Hello Everyone, Well I have recently came to know such a case from Pakistan. I know a person who is from there and hold a degree of CCNP. Well I completed my CCNA in January and this is really amazing that the guy knows nothing as when it came to implementation. Everytime he goes back to refer

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2001-09-23 Thread Baker, Jason
, 24 September 2001 2:56 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] Hi, It would seem the ID bit is largely dependent on the person running the test site. I have always had to provide evidence of who I am. I have even been known

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2001-09-22 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDP
I cant imagine anyone who buys a certifcation being much of a threat nor able to support or configure their way out of a wet paper sack, nor slime though an interview Bruce Williams wrote: There is a thread being discussed on Cisco Network Professional Discussion page about Cisco

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2001-09-22 Thread Paul Jin
George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: I cant imagine anyone who buys a certifcation being much of a threat nor able to support or configure their way out of a wet paper sack, nor slime though an interview Bruce Williams wrote: True, But if something like this does occur, it will

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2001-09-22 Thread hal9001
really! They are about! Karl - Original Message - From: Paul Jin To: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications for Sale ? [7:20747] George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: I cant imagine anyone who buys a certifcation being much of a threat nor able

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2001-09-22 Thread Paul Jin
hal9001 wrote: I'm pretty sure I worked with one, kept disappearing back to Pakistan to do courses, but would come back in unfeasible short times waving paper. He eventually got fired for cutting through a Fibre Line Core which for some reason he could not distinguish between and cable

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2001-09-22 Thread nrf
But of course this problem extends far beyond the cert world. For example, it is well understood that there is tremendous fraud with academic credentials - people claiming to have college degrees that they don't have. For example, the young Hong Kong tycoon, Richard Li, for years claimed to have

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2001-09-22 Thread Brian Whalen
exactly, assuming they have a tech screen before they actually are offered the job, they'd likely crash burn. of course therte is the occasional executive interview.. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: I cant imagine