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From: "Ken Diliberto"
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? NO! NO! NO!!!! [7:24336]
>
> No, this is twisting y
No, this is twisting your words around:
now, my words around you're Hay twisting.
Makes it sound a little Shakespearian. ;-)
Ken
>>> "nrf" 10/28/01 10:37PM >>>
Hey now, you're twisting my words around.
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Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? NO! NO! NO! [7:24336]
> feel the need to do (what's up with that attitude anyway? It's almost
like
> some people think I'm somehow insulting their religion, and since when did
> Cisco become a
> MANUFAC.Pieces oF Equip in Market#of People
> Qualified
>
> Juniper 50,000
> 3000
> Cisco6,000,000
> 80,000
>
> 74 Pieces Per Cisco qualified tech
> 16 pieces per Juniper Tech
>
> Looks like a lot more compe
Hey now, you're twisting my words around.
I never said there was no demand for the CCIE. In fact if you read my posts
carefully, you'll find that I mention that there is indeed quite a bit of
demand for Cisco knowledge and the CCIE, in fact, more demand than for
Juniper and the JNCIE.
My point
> feel the need to do (what's up with that attitude anyway? It's almost
like
> some people think I'm somehow insulting their religion, and since when did
> Cisco become a religion?).
Our IOS who art in router
Hallowed be thy CLI
:)
> * Yes you are correct to say that that there is no such thi
> Juniper has some excellent engineers, and a good product, I don't mean to
> detract from that. But this list should be more focused on giving people
> inspiration and not trying to disappoint them by saying that there is no
> demand for the CCIE when their patently is.
I'd like to add one mor
Yes, it is not that the reruns isn't nice shows, it's the fact that they are
rerun that sorts of irritates the hell out of people...
""[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)"" wrote in
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> On Mar 19, 5:22am, "nrf" wrote:
> }
> } [snip argument we've h
Look, if somebody asks the question, I will provide the answer. Check back
on my history, if you feel - you will see that I never start talking about
this subject unless somebody asks for information. Somebody starts
something that is already OT, then I will take the argument to its logical
conc
Thank you.Now that is an intelligent response that actually engages me
on the actual issues. I must commend you for sticking to the subject
rather than engaging in personal attacks, as a lot of people apparently
feel the need to do (what's up with that attitude anyway? It's almost like
som
> Funny, on that thread, I didn't even really want to talk about Juniper
and
> the JNCIE, I just mentioned it lightly as an example to prove some other
> point I was trying to make, and that caused a firestorm of protests. Just
> like right now.
Two people presenting arguments do not a firestor
On Mar 19, 5:22am, "nrf" wrote:
}
} [snip argument we've heard umpteen times]
I won't argue with the basic premise of your argument, since it is
sound as far as it goes. However you are looking at just the picture
at this moment, i.e. a static image. That isn't very interesting, it
is muc
At 12:13 PM 10/27/01 -0400, nrf wrote:
>OK, let me clarify. When I said 'in the ballpark' I was referring only to
>the supply side of the equation. What I wanted to say was this: the ratio
>of CCIE's to JNCIE's is about 330:1. That is indisputable. Now I
>anticipated that some people would ar
OK, let me clarify. When I said 'in the ballpark' I was referring only to
the supply side of the equation. What I wanted to say was this: the ratio
of CCIE's to JNCIE's is about 330:1. That is indisputable. Now I
anticipated that some people would argue that I was only looking at the xxIE
mar
Hey now, I didn't create the categories, you did. I was just playing by your
rules. Like I said, if I was a hiring manager looking for JNCIE's I
wouldn't publicly post such a job at all - far better just to find out who
they are (all 20 of them), get their phone numbers or email, and contact
the
I tried searching the group study archives. We are in the CCIE
Lab one, right? Or the CCIE Professional list? Well I tried both to no
avail.
Your logic makes sense given those conditions. However, we are
all making hypotheses based on results from dice.com and others. Some
compani
This is getting absurd. There arent any JNCIE (or JNCIS) jobs currently on
Dice or Monster. Therefore, according to your calculations, Cisco would win
every little category you have created! Even if there were >ONE< job on
there, that would still not cut the mustard. Talk about having NO other
This is getting absurd. There arent any JNCIE (or JNCIS) jobs currently on
Dice or Monster. Therefore, according to your calculations, Cisco would win
every little category you have created! Even if there were >ONE wrote in
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> I would rehash w
I would rehash what I said before, but I don't really want to type all my
arguments all over again.
I suggest you read my post (7:3485) on 10/01/01, topic RE:Is the CCIE really
worth it, including all the replies to me, and (especially) all my
counter-replies.
But I'll put it to you this way. I
Oh one more thing - without violating NDA, let me just say that the Security
lab is far more than just the R/S with a Pix thrown in there.
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> Quick analysis:
>
> Do a search on Monster (as broad as possible) with CCIE
Quick analysis:
Do a search on Monster (as broad as possible) with CCIE as the keyword. How
many hits? 96 as of 10/27/01 9:51EST.
Now lets do a search on Monster (as broad as possible) for JNCIE (or JNCIS)
as the keyword. How many hits? ZERO! ZILCH! NADA!
Okay, now lets do a search with Jun
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