Re: [cms-list] managing metadata; Versioning

2003-02-08 Thread Mattias Konradsson
inst large documents or many small ones. About the only downside to this approach is that the XML isn't freely structured but I don't see many instances where metadata need to be deeply hierarchial, seems like value-key and value-sets can handle most any cases. best regards --- Mattias

Re: [cms-list] managing metadata; Versioning

2003-02-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
> tonyl/pillarsoftware wrote: > > 1) If the reason for the Metadata change is the introduction of a new > > business rule that will require code changes. > > > > 2) If the reason for the Metadata change is simply to capture more data > > that is non-essential to any transaction processing. Can you

Re: [cms-list] managing metadata

2003-02-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
> > I would submit that neither SQL nor XML are really the best data model > > for CMS metadata. If you are limited to these two, I would go with XML > > and rely on the capabilities of a decent XML database that allows you to > > treat the XML interchangeably as either deep or shallow and provi

Re: [cms-list] managing metadata; Perfomance

2003-02-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
Here's some of my experience: > Tony Wrote: > Would you store XML as BLOBs in a RDBMS? Pros/cons? > Would you store XSLTs as BLOBs in a RDBMS? Pros/cons? > I think XSLTS should be stored on disk...but XML data can be stored in > many ways...Mapped, as BLOBS, etc. I came to the overall conclusio

Re: [cms-list] managing metadata

2003-02-05 Thread Mattias Konradsson
pport for in-server processing of xmldata, that said I'd really like to store it purely in cms but I need to find a way around the performance issues... best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ more signal, less noise.

[cms-list] managing metadata

2003-02-05 Thread Mattias Konradsson
you want to do xpath or to direct sql searches, only downside I can see is that the metadata probably can't be as hierachial complex keeping the xml shallow. On the other hand I'm not sure metadata needs to be that structurally complex, any thoughts? best regards --- Mattias Konradsson

Re: [cms-list] Preserving pagination in a CMS

2002-12-08 Thread Mattias Konradsson
whole internet populotion could insert markers, that could potentially bloat your document immensly, optimally here you would want each person to store the comment markers themselves but I haven't come up with a good way to do that and preserve their integrity whent the document is edited,

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-07 Thread Mattias Konradsson
t's an investment but I'm not so sure it needs to be a huge one, training people to author content in a new way shouldn't be too hard if the tools are good and the advantages are clear. >- a huge investment in technology. Buying a CMS centered around this paradigm is hardly more e

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
Well, I have to admit I'm beginning to feel a bit lost in this topics, I'm not entirely sure exactly what we're arguing about anymore and I can't make sense of some of Nuno's statements (no offense). I'm very glad Austin made some points so I didn't have too :) I can only state these as "facts" as

Wysiwyg XML editor was Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
it's content and would be much better represented with then it could be rendered graphically on mobilephones for example best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
- Original Message - From: "Nuno Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mattias Konradsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM > I re

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
ated into many languages that is). Good suggestion about possibilities for translated urls, think I'll add so you can link up any page to a number of urls, that should fix that. Think I'll add so you can tie the domain you enter through to a site and even a language so you can set up under different domains too. best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
IGWYG tools that they're loathe to give them up ;) It's a easier sell to say "just press this button" for bold than trying to explain the XML-paradigm best regard --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

[cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Mattias Konradsson
> Now consider that there are more than 50 different careers in > writingyes, more than 50. And within each career there are innumerable > idiosyncratic styles and requirements. Some writers choose to format and > organize their text early and often, while others choose to focus on content > f

[cms-list] multi-language cms

2002-11-05 Thread Mattias Konradsson
ure of the cons and pros of this... Are there any other issues to keep in mind when doing multi-language sites? best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

Re: [cms-list] Content Management Framework (was: Vignette to Acq uire Epicentric)

2002-11-05 Thread Mattias Konradsson
ed and what it means :) I think getting from the "how it looks" mindset to the "what it means" is one of the most important factors of the advancements of CMS's best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

Re: [cms-list] Content Management Framework (was: Vignette to Acquire Epicentric)

2002-11-05 Thread Mattias Konradsson
get an > editor (the person) to build an XML schema although I could build a good > WYSIWYG editor that outputs one. Depends on how you train the editor, the problem as you stated is being able to convince the customers that it's worth it :) That said nothing keeps one from making a simpl

Re: [cms-list] Content Management Framework (was: Vignette to Acquire Epicentric)

2002-11-03 Thread Mattias Konradsson
y, you can't just "convert" you old html files and word documents Sure it's a big investment but if you take into account that once you have it in xml it's "futureproof" and you'll never convert it again together with the tremendous possibilities of content in XML format it surely is worth it IMO. best regards --- Mattias Konradsson -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.