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large documents or many small ones.
About the only downside to this approach is that the XML isn't freely
structured but I don't see many instances where metadata need to be deeply
hierarchial, seems like value-key and value-sets can handle most any cases.
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> tonyl/pillarsoftware wrote:
> > 1) If the reason for the Metadata change is the introduction of a new
> > business rule that will require code changes.
> >
> > 2) If the reason for the Metadata change is simply to capture more data
> > that is non-essential to any transaction processing.
Can you
> > I would submit that neither SQL nor XML are really the best data model
> > for CMS metadata. If you are limited to these two, I would go with XML
> > and rely on the capabilities of a decent XML database that allows you to
> > treat the XML interchangeably as either deep or shallow and provi
Here's some of my experience:
> Tony Wrote:
> Would you store XML as BLOBs in a RDBMS? Pros/cons?
> Would you store XSLTs as BLOBs in a RDBMS? Pros/cons?
> I think XSLTS should be stored on disk...but XML data can be stored in
> many ways...Mapped, as BLOBS, etc.
I came to the overall conclusio
pport for in-server processing of xmldata, that said I'd really like
to store it purely in cms but I need to find a way around the performance
issues...
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more signal, less noise.
you want to do xpath or to direct sql searches, only downside I can
see is that the metadata probably can't be as hierachial complex keeping the
xml shallow. On the other hand I'm not sure metadata needs to be that
structurally complex, any thoughts?
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whole internet populotion could insert markers, that could
potentially bloat your document immensly, optimally here you would want each
person to store the comment markers themselves but I haven't come up with a
good way to do that and preserve their integrity whent the document is
edited,
t's an investment but I'm not so sure it needs to be a huge one,
training people to author content in a new way shouldn't be too hard
if the tools are good and the advantages are clear.
>- a huge investment in technology.
Buying a CMS centered around this paradigm is hardly more e
Well, I have to admit I'm beginning to feel a bit lost in this topics, I'm
not entirely sure exactly what we're arguing about anymore and I can't make
sense of some of Nuno's statements (no offense). I'm very glad Austin made
some points so I didn't have too :) I can only state these as "facts" as
it's content and would be much better
represented with then it could be rendered graphically on
mobilephones for example
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From: "Nuno Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mattias Konradsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM
> I re
ated into many languages that is). Good suggestion about possibilities
for translated urls, think I'll add so you can link up any page to a number
of urls, that should fix that. Think I'll add so you can tie the domain you
enter through to a site and even a language so you can set up under
different domains too.
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IGWYG tools that they're loathe to give them up ;) It's a easier sell to
say "just press this button" for bold than trying to explain the
XML-paradigm
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> Now consider that there are more than 50 different careers in
> writingyes, more than 50. And within each career there are
innumerable
> idiosyncratic styles and requirements. Some writers choose to format and
> organize their text early and often, while others choose to focus on
content
> f
ure of the cons and pros of this...
Are there any other issues to keep in mind when doing multi-language sites?
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ed and what it means :) I think getting from the "how it looks"
mindset to the "what it means" is one of the most important factors of
the advancements of CMS's
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get an
> editor (the person) to build an XML schema although I could build a good
> WYSIWYG editor that outputs one.
Depends on how you train the editor, the problem as you stated is being able
to convince the customers that it's worth it :) That said nothing keeps one
from making a simpl
y, you can't just "convert" you old
html files and word documents Sure it's a big investment but if you take
into account that once you have it in xml it's "futureproof" and you'll
never convert it again together with the tremendous possibilities of content
in XML format it surely is worth it IMO.
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