I alluded to this back at the beginning of the discussion, before it spiraled
into a "your boat can't go that fast" one. In very light, or heavy air, you
give up nothing with a 110-115% genoa over something bigger, plus it's easier
to tack, easier to trim, points better and easier to see past a
Actually, there is a school of thought that a 110% would work better in very
light air (then a 155% or even a 135%). This is attributed to the fact that in
order to generate lift, the airflow over the sail has to be laminar and if the
sail is too long, the wind may not have enough energy to stay
Jerome:
Thank you for bringing reason, logic and the COLREGS Rules to this
discussion...again, thank you.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2015-08-24 5:12 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote:
Strobes are illegal technically even in emergencies. See the COLREGS
(Rules 20, 21, & 3
Well, if it is only $200 that's not so bad. I was thinking it would be much
more.
Thanks Josh!
Danny
-- Original Message --
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
To: "C&C List"
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Survey Question
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:00:34 -0500
Yep that's
Yep that's normal. The price is haul block and wash. Short hauls usually
relaunch the same day no storage fees. ~$200.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 25, 2015 9:39 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List"
wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Okay so I've got a survey with haulout schedul
Joel,
I'm very impressed. You met Nat Herreshoff? Maybe L. Francis, or Halsey?
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From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Joel Aronson"
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:39:44 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Sail Plan Thoughts!
Nat He
Hi Guys, Okay so I've got a survey with haulout scheduled for this coming
Saturday. during my conversation with the surveryor, he brought to light an
interesting point. I had asked if he would be doing the sea trial before or
after haul out and he said that it would be better to do it after be
It also has the u-shaped galley and it looks like it has the shower that's
separate from the head. Nice layout!
Bob
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so
So, Thanks to listers and the WEB, I see that DR LED produces trilight LED's
to replace the bulbs in HELLA, PERKO and AQUASIGNAL. My light is a PERKO with
what looks like a very standard indexed incandescent bulb. Does anyone know for
sure that the POLAR STAR 40 bulb will fit?
Also, another l
Dock rash! Ha! On Aug 25, 2015 8:04 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List
wrote:
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> Rick Taillieu
Interesting to note that there are no photos of the head; isn’t that where the
stanchion was poked through the deck? I also notice that the face of the
storage above the settees in the saloon is the usual light laminate trimmed
with teak on the port side; to starboard, it’s teak veneer. And th
Here's a hull speed story some of you racers might find interesting.
My current boat is a centerboard Bristol 30, a 1960s CCA racer designed by
Halsey Herreshoff with full keel, cutaway forefoot, attached rudder, etc.
Of course, IOR boats like C&Cs sail circles around it in lighter winds. In
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Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 C&C 25 #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.
Oh come on, if you don't exaggerate a bit you're just not a sailor.
On the 110%, I've gone with a 120 for years when cruising. It's just easier on
everyone with little loss of speed vs. the 135 in lighter air. Whatever we
loose in speed we make up for in quick tacking. We're in NY harbor (Batt
Well I wasn't peed off, just skeptical of those speeds based on my own
mediocre experience but kudos to you Sam for doing what one famous
America's Cup skipper referred to as "No Excuse to Lose"...keep up the good
sailing and no need to keep quiet from my point of view; I have never seen
knot abbre
Sam,
Don't let this keep you from posting.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 Sam Salter via CnC-List
wrote:
A few things :
My genoa is an almost new laminate sail; The main is only 5 short seasons old;
I've got a folding propeller ; my bottom
A few things :My genoa is an almost new laminate sail; The main is only 5 short seasons old; I've got a folding propeller ; my bottom is smooth like a babies - I take it out every winter!; I’m measuring speed wi
sorry Russ, I thought he said a beam reach must have missed the part about
puffs, still that's very fast for a 26 but if he can do it course be damned
as you say, then good for him
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at
Mike — have you run the “Intermediate Calibration” routine detailed on page 34
of the manual? This allows you to do two speed runs, and set up a calibration
factor that is applied to the calculated speed. If you’re showing a little
fast at four knots, and faster at six knots, this may help get
I have calibrated my knotmeter with my gps on my tablet. They rarely are the
exact same and are 0.1 to 0.3 kt difference with the knotmeter reading faster
than the gps. My tablet may not be perfect either.
My 26 as I stated does not go as fast as Sam's. Upwind I am 5.0 to 5.5 and
reaching
My sailing instructor referred to them as “owner-meters”… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Greg Arnold via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Aren't knotmeter transducers notoriously inaccurate?
Michael
Typically sport boats have their planning capabilities accounted for in their
PHRF numbers. This is one reason why limiting a course to strictly W/L is not
always desirable as it takes away a major component of some boats speed by
removing any reaching legs… that is a discussion for an
I have wondered from a PHRF handicapping perspective if a number needs to
be factored in that covers
the "ease" at which a boat can exceed hull speed.
Yes, it should!!! Planing boats get a huge break when the wind blows!
Joel
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-lis
Not including surfing or being pushed by waves I rarely get over calculated
hull speed on my 30-1.
Sometimes do it reaching on flat water with the 195% spinnaker. In one case I
did get to about 7 kts,
which leaves an impressive ditch directly behind the boat. At the same time a
Viking 22 slowly
Hi Dwight,
Please reread Sam's message before getting out
the pitchforks. He said 7 or 8, in the puffs. I
would not characterize puffs as "regular"...
On a prairie lake I think his experience is quite
achievable in hot summer conditions when all you
want to do is sail fast, course be damned
not sure about accuracy but I know mine can be calibrated to be pretty
close to GPS SOG when steaming in calm conditions. On my boat however
because the paddle wheel is mounted slightly to port of center line towards
the after end of the keel if I calibrate it to read the same as the gps sog
on po
I have new i50 speed and depth and i60 wind installed Mid July 2014. Boat is a
Frers designed Carrol Marine built Frers 33. Phrf here is 114.
Typically in the Fall the ST60 speedo we had on our last boat would be reading
slow and I would have to calibrate faster. At Spring launch would be rea
Yup did 12.1 knots in a squall in relatively flattish water not surfing. Kept
looking up at the rig praying it wouldn't come down. Lots O' Force there...
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:39:44 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C
GOOD LUCK TY!!!
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:03:22 -0500
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Captain License
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: jasnshoem...@yahoo.com
>
> Captains, admirals, crew, and all affiliated.
> I'm asking a favor from l
Aren't knotmeter transducers notoriously inaccurate?
On 8/25/2015 10:05 AM, dwight veinot
via CnC-List wrote:
what do you mean by 7kn to 8kn regularly?
If you mean 7 knots or 8 knots through the water or over the
ground with
what do you mean by 7kn to 8kn regularly?
If you mean 7 knots or 8 knots through the water or over the ground with a
C&C 26 I would say you should be a race winner every time on corrected
time; that is really fast for a C&C 26 even on a beam reach and I got a
feeling you would probably leave my 35
Captains, admirals, crew, and all affiliated.
I'm asking a favor from like minded souls, young and old with salt or fresh
water in their veins.
My son, Ty, is taking his hundred ton captain tests today, Wednesday, and
Thursday, in Mandeville LA( ehh-hem...Dennis, guess I could be referred t
The theoretical hull speed only means that in order to go faster you need
disproportionally more force. Kind of, you move on the other side of an elbow
(on a chart).
Another thing is that the hull speed calculated this way is done assuming that
the hull shape is “standard”. This is just a first
Theoretical hull speed is not a limit, it is a "sweet-spot". You can go
faster, but it takes exponentially more effort to do so. An example of
this is that when motoring in calm water, you reach hull speed with the
motor running at 1/4 throttle. To gain maybe .5 - 1 more knot of speed,
you must
Nat Herreshoff spoke at my YC when I was a kid. He said he did not believe
in hull speed as a limit. More sail or more wind equals more speed.
I was doing more than hull speed (7.3) while cruising on a reach last
weekend and have done over 8 knots in flat water with the chute.
Joel
35/3
Annapoli
Don't forget that when a boat heels, the waterline may grow, but I still doubt
the figures quoted. I have never seen that on my (sometimes well sailed) 30!
Gary
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Cc: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: Tues
It's theoretical - in real life you can push it a bit!
According to the formula 1.34 x square root of lwl the theoretical max speed of
my 35mkIII with an lwl of 28ft is 7.06 knots. I'd love to know how to get it
going at higher speeds without surfing down the back of a wave!!
--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 08:55, J
The paddle wheel should turn easily when you blow on it. If it doesn't then you
may need to clean the socket in which it turns. Bleach helps.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Currently enjoying the warm clear weather in St Andrews, New Brunswich.
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
h
I get growth in the slot where the little wheel spins. Have done a lot of
'fixes' to make it work, and it is still spotty. I even bought a new wheel...
no help. (Nexus)
Gary
30-1
Weedy mid-Chesapeake
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From: Monty Schumpert via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.c
Joe,
I had the same symptoms with my knotmeter last week. The boat had been
unused for several weeks with the bung installed. I installed the
transducer(s) before leaving the dock and the knotmeter read zero until we
had covered about 5 miles when it started reading correctly. I assumed
there was a
It is a Standard-Horizon SL1. The paddlewheel is a ball that does not have a
right or wrong way. I went by the yard and it spins freely and sticks out the
right amount. I am totally puzzled at this point. The only thing I can think of
is there was some fouling on the bottom in just the right spo
8 knots in a C&C 26 with no current on a reach with white sails in 12 knots of
wind? Sounds more like a 30 one design. Jerry. C&C 27 V J&J.
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> On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:15 AM, David Donnelly via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> I will preface this by saying I consider myself a begi
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