Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
I find the 37 to be a very attractive boat, same hull lines as the 35mkIII and the 29 mkII. Very well balanced. Same with the 33 mkII and the 41 and 44, all in the same family of hulls. and the 40 would be with the 34 I would think? I've always found the 38 mkIII to have a bit too much volume (r

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Andy, Would you say that the 37 is more like the 40? It appears so in the interior and deck layouts on sailboatdata.com. It seems that they are from the same era and product line. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 2, 2015 10:42 PM, "Andrew Burton via CnC-List" wrote:

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
The 37 has a very different hull shape from the 38s. She is shorter in the ends, and has a little less spring to the sheer and a bit more freeboard, though still a very attractive boat. Underwater she concedes a lot less to the IOR, with a very fair hull shape and only a little bustle aft by the

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
It's all about how you use your boat. I weekend on my boat and only plug into shore power when I'm there. When I arrive, I power up my charger, air conditioning, TV etc. My marina slip contract allows power when the skipper is aboard, but charges more for people who use power 24/7. Most other bo

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Edd, I keep my Truecharge 20+ on all the time. I run the refrigeration from the 12v batteries and need to keep them topped off. No issues with doing this over the years. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun.

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Interesting question. I took a cursory look at the data on Sailboatdata.com and only see one model 37, available as std, CB, and SD models. Then there is a listing for a 37-2 and the 37/40, but both of these are 39.5 feet long. But I got curious when I looked at the rig and interior layou

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
those are 1.8 gpm (some ill guided federal law). Still barely adequate. 0.5 gpm would be a fast drip... Leslie. just went through an inspection routine here in SoCal. The city is getting really picky... On Wed, 9/2/15, Danny Haughey via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List C&C Rendezvous

2015-09-02 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi David, FWIW, Hooligans Navy was a 34+ for sale a few years back? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "David Knecht via CnC-List" To: "CnC CnC discussion list" Cc: "David Knecht" Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:53:03 P

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
When the boat is in the water, shore power is on when we are at the dock Mostly for refrigeration as we do leave 'stuff' on board that needs it. Paul. :) On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I have left mine on 24/7 for years without inc

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread jtsails via CnC-List
Count me in the camp of NO! The only thing that runs when I’m not on the boat is the bilge pump (very small pump at that). I go so far as disconnecting the shore power cord. My battery monitor has yet to record 1 amp of consumed power per month and that is with a stuffing box that was dripping c

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Many yachts owned by Congressmen are wired that way. Dennis C. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I got an automatic switch from West Marine that switches back and forth > depending on the presence of shore power. > > You ever see an i

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
you won't, trust me! People want like 10 gals a minute to feel a luxurious shower. those water saver heads are like .5 gals per minute and nobody "likes" those! LOL -- Original Message -- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot wa

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
>… so the more flow the cooler it gets.. On Calypso we went overkill for domestic hot water as we wanted to cruise 3 seasons in the PNW. We use our Webasto diesel furnace as a boiler supplying hot water to a Everhot water heater. The domestic water flows through 4 to 5 gallons of very hot wat

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I got an automatic switch from West Marine that switches back and forth depending on the presence of shore power. You ever see an inverter power a battery charger? The charger is not 100% efficient and neither is the inverter, so making an endless loop with the inverter powering itself with the

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Ditto. The 120 volt receptacles on Touche' are on a rotary switch for either shore power or inverter. The inverter cannot be connected to anything else. Specifically, the feed to the receptacle breaker is switched so the breaker remains in the circuit regardless of whether they are supplied by s

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
The big downside to the instant water heaters, besides the electrical draw, is the total temperature rise. That unit provides a 32 degree temp rise at .35 gpm, dropping to 24 degree rise at .5 gpm, so the more flow the cooler it gets. So you can get the water from 60 to 92 if you can live with a qu

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I have left mine on 24/7 for years without incident. I have a Xantrex TrueCharge charger (Note: not a Xantrex TrueCharge2 which are notoriously short lived), Delco Voyager maintenance free batteries and a Newmar galvanic isolator. The only user is the bilge pump. No refrigeration, etc. Dennis C

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread William Hall via CnC-List
There's Centerboard and Fixed Keel versions... On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > One, as far as I know. The 37/40's are not really 37's at all. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC > > On 2 September 2015 at 12:40, De

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
One, as far as I know. The 37/40's are not really 37's at all. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 September 2015 at 12:40, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Curious: > > How many types of C&C 37s are there? > > Joe > > Coquina > > _

Stus-List C&C 37 question

2015-09-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Curious: How many types of C&C 37s are there? Joe Coquina ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List C&C Rendezvous

2015-09-02 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
David, Sorry — I reached out to every club and C&C in the area I knew, but that boat doesn’t ring a bell at all. We do have 10 boats though (so far) Besides, I think in Block Island, they go by the name “escort”, not “ho”. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sai

Re: Stus-List C&C Rendezvous

2015-09-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Maybe “Ho” is the whole name…? :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:53 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hi Edd- I was at Block Island last week Monday and motored past a white > C&C34+ at a mooring. The rear step

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Mine is usually on. I have a good charger designed for 24/7 duty (http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/) and a galvanic isolator to keep the zinc from being used by the neighbors. Sometimes in the summer I get lazy and don’t feel like stringing the

Re: Stus-List C&C Rendezvous

2015-09-02 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Edd- I was at Block Island last week Monday and motored past a white C&C34+ at a mooring. The rear steps were down so I could only see the first few letters of the name Ho…… I went past a few times and never saw anyone to say hello. Any idea whose boat it is? I was going to invite them to

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I usually wire inverters to not supply the battery charger and water heater. You may want to change your AC wiring to do this. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ricci via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:41 PM To: 'C&C List' Cc: Ron R

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I used to leave the shore power/battery charger on all the time to keep the batteries topped off and to make up for occassional bilge pump cycling. Then one day I got to the boat and the bilge pump was not working and the batteries were dead. It likely had been on for some time since the pump s

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Mike — IF your charger is set up completely correct as far as the charging regimen for the batteries you’ve got, and IF your batteries are in good shape and have the proper level of electrolyte, then you could probably leave the charger on all the time. It should go into “float” charging mode

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I'm always on since i keep the fridge on. Otherwise there is no need and in fact good reason to disconnect the shore power cable during extended absences. Keeping the shore power connected means you have more potential for fire and more likelihood of losing your zincs to the stray galvanic curren

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread svpegasus38
EddBeing a liveaboard, I keep the charger on full time. It goes into float mode and every 21 days iy sends a healthy charge to the batteries. By the way it is a True Charge 40amp.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Edd Sc

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Fred Does it hurt to keep the battery charger on? I also have the AC powered frost plate system for refrigeration. Charger is Xantrex Truecharge 40+ multistage charger Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, S

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
We run a fridge and don't get to the boat on a regular schedule, so leave the battery charger on. If it's not on, what are you using shore power for? Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers, > > When

Re: Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Edd — I have it on when I’m at the boat, but shut it off when I leave. There’s plenty of battery capacity for the occasional bilge pump cycle. I do NOT have DC refrigeration, but rather an AC-powered holding plate system. I do leave that on all the time when connected to shore power. If my f

Stus-List Shore Power Question

2015-09-02 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, When connected to shore power, do you keep your battery charger always on or do you use it temporarily as needed? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
My boat has a combination 120 VAC 1.5 kW electric/engine coolant hot water heater. It holds 6 gallons of fresh water. For grins, I tried it on the battery/inverter and it drew 117 amps DC. This is consistent with the unit’s rating as the battery voltage dropped below 12 VDC when tried. Since

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
It is not going to ever run on 12 volts. You would have to find 12 volt heating elements that were 1800 watts, which I am 99.9% sure do not exist. The power wire to run this would be like 2/0 gauge as well, which is VERY expensive wire. BTW – this thing is going to be an extreme torture test

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
...and a sun shower works great and doesn't use any electrical energy! Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Sep 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Mitchell's via CnC-List > wrote: > > I am still chuckling with all the math you guys are doing. The big question I > have is: where will you store your spi

Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Mitchell's via CnC-List
I am still chuckling with all the math you guys are doing. The big question I have is: where will you store your spinnaker(s) if you start using your shower? Haha can you tell I sail in fresh water! Len Sent from my mobile device. ___ Email address:

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
You are talking about taking almost 40AH from your house bank to take a 15 minute shower. If your bank is 200AH that’s a 20%. Not sure if you have flooded lead acids or AGMs, but they are around 300-500 cycles. So it’s a safe bet that after 300-500 showers you need to buy new batteries. If

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Josh, I did buy the upgraded alternator with the Beta Engine (120amp). The idea was that, if needed, a warm shower could be taken and my wife could use her hair dryer if the engine is running. These would be rare circumstances though since when we do extended cruises, we like to be dockside.

Re: Stus-List Hot water tank

2015-09-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I did some rough math and it looks like you'll need ~38Ahrs of power for a 15 minute shower. Your inverter will be drawing 150amps through the supply wires and your alternator would have to recharge that amount. With the stock alternator (35amps) it would take over and hour. I do think I remembe