Re: Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

2017-08-01 Thread sender via CnC-List
Ahhh... so maybe Bob Dylan was a Yacht Broker before got into music?? You say you never compromise With the mystery tramp, but now you realize He's not selling any alibis As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes And say: Do you want to make a deal? On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Jerome Tauber

Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

2017-08-01 Thread sender via CnC-List
I replied directly Eric On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > If you are serious about a 35, check out my boat. No issues, I plan to > haul in late August (or earlier if opportunity presents) to do regular > maintenance. I

Re: Stus-List clogged refrigerator drain

2017-08-01 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
I would try to clear it with a "shop-vac" from the ice box side of things. You will probably need to neck down the vac hose to be effective. The idea being that something went down to clog the hose FROM this opening. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:23 PM 01/08/2017, you

Stus-List clogged refrigerator drain

2017-08-01 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List
Another question. My refrigerator drain is clogged and it doesn’t seem to be a simple hose connection. There seems to be something under the refrigerator drain before the hose, but I can’t see how to get to it without pulling apart the boat. This is on a 35 Mk3 My favorite way to clear clogs

Re: Stus-List 73 30 MK1 Bilge Pump

2017-08-01 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Steve my 1972 C 30 MK I (hull #7) has a deep sump under the mast step. Yours probably does too, and that's probably where the pump is. Hate to break it to you but the only way to access it is to pull the mast up (or out) and remove the mast step. For detail and pictures etc. have a look at the

Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

2017-08-01 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
A 24 foot bow-rider will have installed seating for at least 12 people., 16 is not too much on a lake. A Bahamian sloop will carry a dozen more than a CG certificate will allow. Blame the skipper, not the boat. The idiots, no wonder we have so much government in our pockets. It makes me

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Sounds like you are on top of things. Bon voyage! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2017, at 9:11 PM, john wright via CnC-List > wrote: That was great and helpful. Thank Dave On Aug 1, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Dave S via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

2017-08-01 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
The article says it was a 24-footer. Still a load of bodies... Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 27 July 2017 at 07:09, henry evans via CnC-List wrote: > CG capacity on a boat that size would be about 6 or 7 people. You just > have to wonder if the

Re: Stus-List 35 - 3

2017-08-01 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Howard Kindly send me your photos and details. We received a very good offer on our C 39 TM (owned since 1976) today and are looking to downsize. The 35 II maybe a good choice for us. Thank you Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 -

Stus-List 35 - 3

2017-08-01 Thread Howard and Skippy via CnC-List
Hello All, I have owned Knot Again, a 35-3 for about 25 years. I have raced and cruised with her extensively. She is one of the winning-est boats in the Middle Atlantic states. 18 trophies in the Around Long Island Regatta, multiple club championships. Multiple NJ offshore racing conference

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread john wright via CnC-List
That was great and helpful. Thank Dave > On Aug 1, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > > Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required. > Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls. > Inspect (and replace as required) all hoses. > Inspect,

Re: Stus-List 73 30 MK1 Bilge Pump

2017-08-01 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List
Steve : my pump is under my mast step. In a deep sump. My boat is of the 1979 era though and may be different than yours . The hose also goes through the bilge to the back of the boat and exits under the toe rail on the port side opposite my wheel. Sent from Joe Bognar > On Aug 1, 2017, at

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread john sandford via CnC-List
Hi John Everyone has different views, but my priorities are 1. Don’t want the mast coming down, = Mast, Spreaders, Standing and running rigging. Remove, replace everything, repin with SS bolts and nylocs, not clevis pins. 2. And while its getting 1. Done = renew wiring, fit LEDs,

Stus-List 73 30 MK1 Bilge Pump

2017-08-01 Thread Steven A. Demore via CnC-List
While we're having so many conversations on bilge pumps, I have another question for you. I picked up a project '73 30' MK 1. There is a float switch in the bilge, right under the forward access hole. There are wires leading forward through the bilge toward the mast, as well as a hose that

Re: Stus-List Re-routing cockpit drain lines

2017-08-01 Thread Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List
nd the engine runs fine  / the cold starts are much quicker. Good luck with it. Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list

Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

2017-08-01 Thread Sam Wheeler via CnC-List
I don't have much to add beyond what Jake said, but I bought a 35-III about a year and a half ago and have been living aboard for a little over a year. I love it. Agree with Jake that you'll be reefing early and often, but as long as you limit it to the appropriate amount of canvas it's a really

Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I agree Robert, very likely what you suspect Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:22 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: > Sailed yesterday, got back to the slip, crack open a beer but smell diesel >

Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Remember too that if there is fuel in the fill hose that there is fuel in the vent hose. Often times the vent hose isn't inspected or replaced at the same periodicity. Main Sailor did some experimenting with fuel tanks and condensation. FWIW he did not find that any more condensation

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
So far I have not seen anything about rigging - inspections, checks, replacement? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > wrote: Paul I looked at your engine rebuilt post. What a daunting job! Great work

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Paul I looked at your engine rebuilt post. What a daunting job! Great work Mike Persistence Halifax, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul E via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul E Subject: Re: Stus-List

Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi, You should take a look at the lines and check for cracks in the Racor housing.. My engine developed loss of power / stalling issues last year and it was related to an air leak, once we started looking at the fuel system in details we found issues everywhere. I'm not kidding. My lift pump

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Paul E via CnC-List
John, Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration. There are several other Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are just the first few which come up on a google search. I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat. Below is a direct

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
On hookup wire - ancor has done a wonderful job of marketing... 'nuff said... Industrial hookup wire equivalent in construction is CSA type TEW aka UL style 1015. This specifies a .030" pvc insulation, 600v 105 deg C rating. Gauge/stranding is as follows: 10/104, 12/65, 14/41, 16/26, 18/16.

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I think he may source from Pacer Marine; they’re in Florida. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Aug 1, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Paul E via CnC-List > wrote: > > I have been very happy with marine wire from Greg’s Marine Wire

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Paul E via CnC-List
I have been very happy with marine wire from Greg’s Marine Wire Supply: 4 AWG Tinned Marine Battery Cable $1.64/ft https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com - Paul E. 1981 C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL

Re: Stus-List c 37

2017-08-01 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
I don't know him, but I a darn sure rootin' fer him! Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: pete shelquist via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I just fixed a fuel leak on my engine by replacing the O ring on the secondary filter. I had been having no issues with starting or running the engine, but there was a drip. One thing I do is keep an "oil-sorb" pad under the engine. That does two things; helps me locate any oil drips and stops oil

Re: Stus-List A/C Drip Pan Rusting, Clogged Drain, etc. - C 37/40+

2017-08-01 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Bruce, Agitate, scrape and vacuum as much loose stuff & scale as practical and then treat metal surfaces with Ospho. www.ospho.com I've been using the stuff for decades (found out about it in Hawaii, on a cruise). It's magic, basically a dilute form of phosphoric acid with modifiers so

Stus-List c 37

2017-08-01 Thread pete shelquist via CnC-List
The Trans-Superior race is starting this weekend in Sault Ste Marie, Ont and finishes in Duluth MN. http://www.transsuperior.com/ . A new entrant this year is Mac McKenzie and his C, Worthy Pearl, out of Etobicoke, On. Anyone on the list know him or the boat? It’s great to see more

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Wow – cheapest yet! I always loved the Ancor wire because of the fine strands, but this is a great deal! I have been buying the yellow Ancor for ground wiring lately. I may get around to redoing it all one day to match the latest color codes. Joe Coquina C 35 MK I. From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Joe — PLEASE don’t use welding cable on a boat. It’s not UL- or ABYC-approved for marine use, and the fact that it’s not tinned should be a huge red flag, especially for you saltwater boaters. 4AWG marine battery cable from Pacer Marine is $1.75/ft retail:

Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Inspect the fill hose. When I first bought Touche' the fill hose was deteriorated. The inner and outer liners had separated. I filled the tank up to the fill so there was fuel standing in the fill hose. It leaked. Dennis C. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:22 AM, robert via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Dave via CnC-List
Will need to check mine, i did a ton of work, and would have noticed what it was, but have forgotten. There was no corrosion anyway. The in-mast wiring was bare copper and uncorroded after 30 years, but it's a fresh water boat. Dave. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Bruce

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
As Joe pointed out, the discount depends on what you buy. When I purchased the valves, hoses, and regulator for my LPG install the discount came to almost 50%. On stuff like Blue Seas panels and ACR it is more like 10%. I have a West Marine here in town, so I never pay shipping on anything I

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Agreed as to the warning on the wiring, and as of 1994, no, they did not wire the boats with tinned wire.  I am finding a LOT of the wire in my boat to be blackend with corrosion.  While it is still largely functional, in the back of my mind I'm weighing the long-term need for properly rewiring

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Could be, but my boat is about 1 mile from West Marine and a couple hundred or more from Defender, so Port Supply is still a big help when I need something mid-project. This made me curious, so I took a look at something I just bought – 4 gauge wire. Defender - $2.32/foot Port Supply -

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Defender is cheaper the West, but their shipping costs have turned me off lately. If you have an Amazon Prime account you can do as well or better with the free shipping on a lot of stuff. Joel

Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
One Spring day, when the temperature rose, I had diesel running down the side of my hull from the vent hose just under rail because I did the same thing, put diesel in the hose leading up to the deck fill..it expanded but it never made its way to the bilge though . Hoping you are right in

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Roger that. From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:36 AM To: C Cc: Jack Fitzgerald Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper than West marine PRO. Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald C

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper than West marine PRO. Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald C 39TM - HONEY - US12788 Savannah, GA 31410 USA This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be

Re: Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
One year I overfilled my diesel tank for winter storage (so that fuel was in the hose leading to the deck fill). Diesel fuel ended up in the bilge, and I discovered that it is tenacious when it comes to seeping through things. Unlike the water in the bilge, the fuel found its way through the C

Re: Stus-List A/C Drip Pan Rusting, Clogged Drain, etc. - C 37/40+

2017-08-01 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
My older CruisAir pans are metal with a side drain. You could try Rustoleum primer and a finish coat or that crazy rubber stuff. Joel Virus-free. www.avg.com

Stus-List Prop on Rudder

2017-08-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
What will they think of next? http://www.yachtingworld.com/comment/propellers-leading-charge-transform-way-cruising-yachts-use-power-103853 Rob Abbott AZURA C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our

Stus-List Diesel in bilge

2017-08-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
Sailed yesterday, got back to the slip, crack open a beer but smell diesel fuel in the cabin. Check the bilge and there is about 500 mls of fluid there..half water and half dieselI take it out with a sponge, first in a clear plastic container where you can clearly see two different

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
It is variable. On electronics you might get about $1 off, but for some other things it is huge – like close to half! Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:11 AM To: CnClist

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account. That won't get you a lot. I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro) account for years. It is volume based. As a low volume buyer, my discount is negligible. I can buy stuff online

Re: Stus-List Bilge Pump Wiring (Cont...)

2017-08-01 Thread Robbie Epstein via CnC-List
Chris, A few things. First, I've never seen a switch in the negative battery leads. Not sure what that's all about but as long as it's set to ALL, it's probably not hurting anything. Second, you might try checking the battery charger fuses. The Truecharge has two 15 amp fuses under the

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
They finally discovered tinned wire? ☺ Joe Coquina From: syerd...@gmail.com [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:47 AM To: Della Barba, Joe Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 With the exception of push

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Dave via CnC-List
With the exception of push and pulpit, IMO '85 was done quite well by the factory. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > > Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C wiring is as good as 1973 > wiring was, it is ALL about to

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C wiring is as good as 1973 wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour project and ended up rewiring my whole boat! Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a huge discount. Do also

Re: Stus-List Bilge Pump Wiring (Cont...)

2017-08-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Chris, In 15+ years of doing electrical on many different boats, I have never seen a switch on the negative wires. My inclination would be to replace it with a Blue Sea Power Post or Power Post Plus. Dennis C. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com>

Re: Stus-List A/C Drip Pan Rusting, Clogged Drain, etc. - C 37/40+

2017-08-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I have a CruisAir A/C. The condensate pan is plastic or composite but even it drains from the side. I think they design them that way because more often than not, the pan sits on a flat surface. Anyway, I almost cringe to suggest this but what about some of that crazy rubber stuff they

Stus-List A/C Drip Pan Rusting, Clogged Drain, etc. - C 37/40+

2017-08-01 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, We have a 1994 C 37/40+ with an Adler/Barbour A/C unit.  The drain pan is the issue.  When we bought the boat, the surveyor noticed the rusty pan, and suggested cleaning out the rust. In addition, the drain for the pan for some reason is in the side of the unit rather than in the

Re: Stus-List Bilge Pump Wiring (Cont...)

2017-08-01 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
If there has been a problem with AC leakage from other boats then completely disconnecting all grounds might help. No idea, just guessing. The battery charger would need to be connected directly to the battery(s), which looks like it is from the pictures. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 Date:

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
> Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail If you are planning to carry a 155% genoa a racing code zero ( defined here as a flat spinnaker with the MidGirth < 75% of the Foot ) is an expensive sail that will add benefit over a fairly small AWA.  A cruising code zero or reaching asymmetrical

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

2017-08-01 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required. Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls. Inspect (and replace as required) all hoses. Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points. Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.

Re: Stus-List Bilge Pump Wiring (Cont...)

2017-08-01 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Scratching my head. Presumably the point of the second battery switch is to switch some circuit(s) open or closed. But to me it's weird. I'd generally expect the switching to be on the hot side of the circuits, and all grounding to be (unswitched) to the engine block and therefore the prop

Re: Stus-List Bilge Pump Wiring (Cont...)

2017-08-01 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
All I can say is OMG. and I thought my new boat was bad with all the wires that go nowhere.  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (for sale)Lf38  Significant Other LF39  Original message From: Chris Hobson via CnC-List Date: