Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I second the Porta-boat and ~2hp outboard. We've used an inflatable but just because it folds up does not mean that it is small or light. Neither is the ports boat but at least I can lash it to a lifeline station and it is more or less out of the way - though the benches need stowed too. The

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
And for you USAers. Find a local airport for AV gas. I pay 6 bucks a gallon. Well worth it. Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. From: CnC-List on behalf of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:03:41 PM To:

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Not necessarily. >From what i know, only Shell and Esso guarantee no ethanol added to their >highest grade gasoline. I also think that Costco does not have ethanol in the >premium gas but this may depend heaviily on specific location. Others (e.g. >Ultramar, PetroCanada, Husky), either don't

Re: Stus-List CnC34—Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Dwight I believe you are right. When our family bought the C 36 in 1981 I was told the 36 replaced the 37, the 34 replaced the 35 and I think the 29 replaced the 30? That was years ago and the smart guy I always relied on to answer these questions is long gone. Thank god we have Rob Ball …

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Ken This list is gold. I have just once again learned something. Supreme means no ethanol. I did not know this. For my small engines I will now follow that rule. Thanks! This is a big help Mike Persistence Halifax, NS www.Hoytsailing.com From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies: rowing

2020-06-12 Thread CHRIS PRICE via CnC-List
Just finished hauling the inflatable out of the v berth, punped it up with a Ryobi inflator, mounted the engine i preparation to go crabbing in the AM   4 hp four stroke Yamaha. Wife and I will put out 30 traps wherever we sail to.  And no, Dennis, I”m not whining about it.!

Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Wing on is difficult at the best of times. Strong Steady wind and smooth seas seem never the case together. Rolling seas demand close attention On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:07 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > We were talking about boat speeds recently. I had our 34

Re: Stus-List CnC34—Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
It’s a tender boat by all accounts. If you are sailing in winds usually in the teens apparent to weather it really does well with a keel shoe. The interior seems very tight compared to the 35mkii which was i believe was the model it was built to replace On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:36 PM John and

Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave via CnC-List
Surprised at the comment on the yanmar 2gm, I have one in my 33-2 and no such complaint. Perhaps I just don’t know any better. The 34 was on my shopping list and I looked at several. Iirc, the balsa core extends into or close to the bilge so a damp core in this area is worth checking for.

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
You remind me of a wonderful boat I used to run, Matt. She was a 52’ hot molded mahogany ketch called Stormy. A wonderful beautiful fast yacht, but not terribly stiff. We used to say that the last 1000 pounds of backstay was just the stern getting closer to the masthead! Andy Masquerade Andrew

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies: rowing

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
We use the plastic and aluminium oars that come with our dinghy. They bolt onto the oarlocks so don't fall off if you really come onto them. The harder the dinghy is pumped up, the easier it is to row. Ken H. On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 13:03, Richard Bush via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com>

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
I always assumed the reading is psi. While I am aware that some skippers don’t mind bending their boat in half, I tend to max out at 2500, which is where I start becoming uncomfortable. There was a local Erie sailor years ago that couldn’t just sail the boats he owned – he loved to mess

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Edd, We have an inflatable with an aluminium floor. Ours is a SeaBright 290 - 9' 6" long. http://www.seabrightmarine.ca/sd290.html We usually use our spinnaker pole and topping lift as a crane to lift our inflatable out of the water to store it on the foredeck. I hang a block & tackle from

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I think this is getting confusing, some numbers in this discussion are pounds per square inch hydraulic pressure, rather than say, 2,000 pounds of hanging load. I would certainly not have wanted to put 4,000# of actual load on my 39’s backstay. Imagine a 2’ X 2’ X 7’ concrete pier block

Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
We were talking about boat speeds recently. I had our 34 banging 12.9 knots crossing Lake Erie wing and wing (or wing-on-wing as some say). We stayed ahead of a Beneteau 42 First the entire way. I did notice something unusual going downwind in about 20 knots of breeze with the chute up -- the

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hi Edd, Here's what I did: I went with a Portabote because it can easily be driven with a torqeedo, and in fact it is our preferred motor as opposed to the 6 hp 4 stroke that came with the boat.  The 6 hp motor will drive the boat at 13 kts with both me and my wife it it, but as another person

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
If I exceed 2000 psi on Touche's backstay, the hull flex will result in separation of the aft 6-8 inches of the keel from the hull. It's only cosmetic but I will have to re-fair it at the next haul out. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:45 PM Bailey White

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Possibly different diameter standing rigging. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:45 AM Bailey White via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Happy Friday to everyone. I've enjoyed the discussions this week. > > 2000 psi on a hydraulic backstay for a large keelboat is not very much and > seems

Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I used to sail on a 34 that had the 2 cylinder Yanmar. That thing would shake the entire boat. Some had Atomic 4s I think, which are much smoother, but any original A4 that is not FWC is living on borrowed time at this point. Actually ANY RWC engine from the 80s not in a fresh water lake is.

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Bailey White via CnC-List
Happy Friday to everyone. I've enjoyed the discussions this week. 2000 psi on a hydraulic backstay for a large keelboat is not very much and seems overly conservative to me, particularly with the large headsails that many of our boats have. We used to routinely go to 4000 psi on a 33 foot Santa

Re: Stus-List CnC34—Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Owned our 82 for 21 seasons. Absolutely love it. Original Yanmar 3GM which is just the right power (do not recommend a smaller engine) No major design or build issues just issues of being such a tender age :-) Of course get a competent survey of hull rig and all systems. Our main hatch

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have an Avon 340 RIB with 15 HP. It fits in my slip, but Ed does not seem to have any place to put a dinghy at his club. It is a nice boat even as a stand-alone boat, but it is whole different thing than rolling up a soft inflatable and putting it below. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
This. Go big or go light, don’t go to the middle. I had a 2 HP Honda for many years. It wasn’t fast, but it was trivial to pass it up and down. I then had a 6 HP Johnson that was too heavy to take on and off without gear, but also wasn’t all that fast. I got all the drag of towing a dinghy with

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies: rowing

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Dennis; you said that you row your inflatable..."Second, motors are nice but a pain to deal with.  We just row most of the time now." Do you use the little plastic oars that come with it or do you have something more substantial? Thanks Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River,

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Thomas Perison via CnC-List
Ed - I’ve used my trusty LT-2 for many years. Deflates/inflates easily. Haven’t put a motor on yet but is rated for one. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_iMVAf0lE7W9eSXB5RD7q5iBXdIHRB0v/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TEtPTw3whDq2ggGllKtkHhTs_jQllx8-/view?usp=drivesdk Tom

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I have a Porta-Bote which I like, but likely will not meet your requirements for dinghy. The boat folds up and stores easily between the shrouds and the cabin top, but the seats take up some space. As to electric motor, I recently looked into buying one when I was having trouble with my 2007

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 173, Issue 62

2020-06-12 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Edd We used a Zoom by Zodiac 260 Aero Air Floor Inflatable Boat (8-Feet 6-Inch x 5-Feet) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JRQT10/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tau_bm64Eb6H2HAHW On our prior 35 MK1 w a 2hp Honda. No problems. https://flic.kr/p/6Lk1KG That said, I love my Kato davits and having a RIB. But, we

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Oops. Forgot the link https://www.plastimo.com/en/mooring-tenders/tenders/annexes-raid-ii-9197.html From: Hoyt, Mike Sent: June 12, 2020 12:47 PM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Subject: RE: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors Hi Edd In 2014 I saw an 8 ft Pastimo dingy at the

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I do well towing my hard bottom Caribe inflatable and a Honda 2.3 hp motor. The Caribe also has oars that separate and stow easily under it’s seat. The little Honda weighs about 30 pounds so I can handle it with ease. It is air cooled and very easy on fuel. Don’t think I would want to deflate and

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Edd In 2014 I saw an 8 ft Pastimo dingy at the chandlery leaning against the wall. Looked great and price was right so I bought it. Folds up deflated like you describe and is great for all those reasons. We run a 2.5 Tohatsu on it and that works well. If you look at this link was I

Re: Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
First, make sure whatever inflatable you buy has thermowelded seams. I think all of them should be that way now. Don't buy glued seams. I had one of those. The bottom fell out one day on the way to the beach. Nothing like zipping along in a bottomless donut with a 7.5 hp motor. Second, motors

Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I love this website for cheap(ish) inflatables: https://www.boatstogo.com/ Tons of boats to pick from there. We used to have a de-flatable inflatable. It was a bit of a nuisance to inflate it or put it back in its bag, but it did ride around in the quarter berth when we didn’t want to tow it and

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: boat painting in Washington NC

2020-06-12 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
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Stus-List Roll-Up Inflatable Dinghies and Motors

2020-06-12 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, So I’m looking to add a dinghy and motor to the Enterprise to take advantage of some of the fantastic anchorages in the area (and yes, the dinghy will be named “Galileo”). But II have some limitations — I don’t want to install davits on my stern and I have no place at my club to store

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: boat painting in Washington NC

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Topsides is what you call the pat of the boat between the waterline and gunwale. Andy Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA02840 www.burtonsailing.com http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Jun 12, 2020, at 08:33, Matt Wolford via CnC-List >

Stus-List CnC34?Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Hood via CnC-List
Great boat. Had same location of water leak on mine. Seems after a few seasons I have it licked. It appeared to be the companion way sliding lid cover. Mast step deterioration and bulkhead to hull "tabbing" (I think that's what you'd call it down there), maybe as most boats. Otherwise nothing

Re: Stus-List Anchor locker access

2020-06-12 Thread rick bushie via CnC-List
Anchovy has an oval hawse pipe about 3”x2” with a cap adjacent to the stem fitting. No windlass...I wouldn’t think that a windlass would be a factory original install on such a small boat. I do want a windlass, though. Rick Bushie Anchovy, 1971 30-1 Tolchester, MD

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: boat painting in Washington NC

2020-06-12 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
FWIW, “hull” to me means from the gunwales down. Freeboard is the section between the gunwales and the waterline. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL]

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: boat painting in Washington NC

2020-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I am getting a bit confused. “Hull” to me means the waterline and up, not bottom paint. The deck is the deck. “Topsides” is generic for anything that isn’t bottom paint. So is $125/ft. the hull, the deck, or both? Thanks! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List CnC34—Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
Get someone who knows how to use a moisture meter to look for core problems below the waterline. My 1978 boat underwent substantial repairs (done by a prior owner). Also look for bulkhead tabbing issues (although easily fixed). I also had a persistent water leak from the deck in the galley I

Stus-List Anchor Locker Access

2020-06-12 Thread David Morris via CnC-List
(Apologies, premature send on the previous) At some point in its history, a now-dysfunctional South Pacific VS1000C windlass was added to our 1975 C 30 MK1. The through-deck access to the anchor locker is via the windlass, hand-cranked, and its through-deck hole, just big enough for a 5/16"

Stus-List Anchor Locker Access

2020-06-12 Thread David Morris via CnC-List
Our 1975 C 3 David J. Morris, MBA President, D.J. Morris & Associates Ltd. 24 St. Paul's Place, Kingston, ON K7M 7S3 Tel. 613-531-4429 email: djmor...@djma-ltd.com Member: Canadian Freelance Guild Blogging at:

Stus-List CnC34—Anything to pay attention to?

2020-06-12 Thread Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List
Looking at a ‘81 34 which, besides the galley, looks like a cotton-shrunk version of my old 41. Any issues particularly relevant to survey on this model? Thanks, Will Will Gerstmyer 978-609-1331 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your