IMHO, if the wiggle goes away after repairing/tightening the bolts, you solved
the problem. A soft grounding as you described may work on loosening the bolts
a little bit, but unlikely would have done any structural damage.
From: dwight veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2022
I think you said it was not leaking water from the outside into the bilge.
If that's the case then the seal is still OK. I think if you do the repair
you will be good to go. If you sell and move on to something different the
new owner will have to fix it anyway and that will likely reduce
These responses are super helpful! Four years in, we remain novices,
which makes it hard to even know the questions to ask. No matter the
approach we take, it is clear that replacing the washers and adding backing
plates is part of the project. I was a little perplexed by the aft keel
bolt washers
Agreed that some beefing up is in order (including backing plates). Not sure
welding is necessary.
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2022 12:35 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Stus-List Re: 25 MKII - Smiling?
I have to agree with Dwight on the
This one piqued my curiosity so, Chiming in. I h haven’t noticed that with my
33-2 either, however I know it and it’s similarly-sized siblings have floor
timbers (aka the spider) that form a structural grid essentially spreading the
lateral keel loads onto the hull, some adjacent to bulkheads
I have to agree with Dwight on the backing plates, ESPECIALLY the aft most one,
I think. It looks like they cut the edges off the stack of washers, so the nut
would fit in that tight space with a socket. I can see where the washers
rotated with the tightening, and are chewing into the
Unless you had a hard grounding of something serious, a little movement is
likely caused by loose keel bolts. We noticed the aft end of the keel on my 42
was not tight when we hauled out in 2020. The culprit was the back two bolts.
We tightened the nuts and all is well. Not sure what caused
While I’m a new owner, I’ve now witnessed two launches and two haul-outs… each
involving a 500 yard run up a bumpy hill hanging/swaying in a sling (not for
the faint of heart) and my keel doesn’t move relative to the boat (1980 C 34)
at all.
It did have the familiar C smile when I bought it,
Agree with Dave: there is no such thing as wiggle room in keels
Richard
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From: David Risch via CnC-List
To: Stus-List
Cc: David Risch
Sent: Mon,
You can fix that. Yes grind it out and clean surfaces well with acetone
soaked rags. Use a brush and apply West system epoxy to cleaned surfaces.
The fill the gap(s) with silica thickened epoxy putty. Then a couple of
layers of epoxy soaked glass matte. Grind to shaped and fair with polyester
Heated agreement. Any wiggle and that keel is being dropped and properly
re-bedded. IMHO elongation of bolt holes has occurred and will only get worse.
From: dwight veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 11:21 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Stus-List Re: 25 MKII -
I would say none is closer to normal. I have a 1974 C 35. Never saw its
keel wiggle lifted out of the water in fall and put back in the water every
spring.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:13 AM Julian Norris via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I also noticed that the keel on my 30 MKII
Thanks for the "Travel Log" Martin, great read, sounds like it was quite a
trip.
Happy New Year!
Ken H.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 22:02, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Regarding electronics failing when needed most; a sea story:
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> Back in 1994 I was hired as
I also noticed that the keel on my 30 MKII wiggled alarming during lift out
this year. Our club lifts as a group with a crane with very long straps. It was
very windy so the straps were vibrating in the breeze (gale?) which transferred
to the hull and caused the keel to wiggle. In my case I
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