Re: Stus-List Propeller

2016-06-06 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
You want the largest diameter prop that still gives you a couple of inches clearance. Then, while under way while in gear, run the engine at full throttle. If you can't reach maximum RPM, you're over pitched. If you can rev up substantially higher than max RPM, you're under pitched. Alan

Re: Stus-List Adjustable backstay?

2016-06-04 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
The babystay doesn't go slack. The whole mast moves back, but more at the top than at the middle. If you want to see the effect of tightening the backstay, look at the forestay, and sight up the mast from the side while the backstay is not tensioned too tight. Then run a weighted line (or even

Re: Stus-List 35-3 Spinnaker Dimensions

2016-06-02 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
SLE: 45.95 SLU: 45.95 SGF: 24.8 SGM: 24.8 SPL: 13.6 Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Sam Wheeler via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what dimensions the spinnaker should be on a C 35 mk > III?

Re: Stus-List Location of "grease cup"

2016-06-02 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
If you have a Zerk on the rudder post sleeve, the previous owner probably replaced the grease cup with the Zerk. The grease cup on my boat is on the rudder post sleeve. AlanBergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:16 AM, kelly petew via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List 35-3 Rudder post sleeve

2016-06-02 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
It's hard to imagine having to replace the rudder post sleeve, and needing a new collar. Sometimes turning the grease cup (if it has any grease left in it) will make the steering easier. If the cup is already screwed in all the way, remove it, fill it with grease and screw it back on until

Stus-List I-94 Form

2016-05-31 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
It doesn't look like you need an I-94 form before you arrive. See the following link: http://internationaloffice.berkeley.edu/i-94 Alan-Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our

Stus-List Fwd: Questions asked by Banff Park tourists

2016-05-30 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Here's something for everyone to think about - especially Americans on the list who might be planning a trip to Canada. *Dumbest Questions Asked by Banff Park Tourists** submitted by Kurt Mezger* *1**. How do the elk know they're supposed to cross at the "Elk Crossing" signs?* *2. At what

Re: Stus-List Overheating

2016-05-29 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
When I rep[laced my water heater, the first time I ran the engine, it overheated until I added water/antifreeze to the heart exchanger. Make sure your heat exchanger is topped off. Also, there is a valve that adjusts the amount of hot water that's diverted to the hot water heater. If too much is

Stus-List Oregon Offshore Race

2016-05-02 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Once again, C's will be represented on the Oregon Offshore race, from Astoria, Oregon to Victoria, BC. Cool Change, skippered by Frank Noragon and Thirsty, skippered by Alan Bergen will try to make up for last year, when lack of wind caused all but three boats to drop out. Only one boat finished

Re: Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III

2016-04-29 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I don't have a short track. My Genoa track runs from the shrouds to just even with the forward edge of the cockpit. I used to race with a #1, but most of the time my boat was overpowered, and the main was back-winded. I tried a #2, with a six second handicap gain, and was able to point higher.

Re: Stus-List Bow Roller

2016-04-26 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Lorne: I'm not that Allan, but I can send you pictures of the bow roller I added to my boat. Send me your email address. trya...@alumni.usc.edu Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Head Hoses

2016-04-11 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Fred: I used sanitation hose from Premier Rubber on Vancouver Way for a long run (holding tank to deck pump-out). Very expensive, but might be too stiff for you. The rest of my sanitation hoses are from West Marine. White, 1 1/2" sanitation hose. Still pretty stiff, but softens up a bit if

Re: Stus-List C Smile

2016-03-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Jason: In 2004 I noticed the smile on my boat, when I hauled out. I could also move the keel, so I knew I had a problem that wouldn't go away. I had the yard drop the keel, and when they flushed out the keel bolt holes, a smelly substance came out (like someone died in there). The forward

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows, Multi-Tool

2015-11-11 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
When I removed my windows, I used a router. Use the new window and double sided tape to hold the new window in place. Then use the router with a pattern bit to go all around the window. Remove the new window, and use the router with a straight bit to remove the rest of the window where it's

Re: Stus-List Vinyl letters - experiences?

2015-10-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I used BoatUS, this year, and I am pleased with the results. It was easy working with them to get what I wanted. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR Speaking of vinyl letters, I believe there is a difference in quality and service life of vinyl letters depending on

Re: Stus-List Winchrite

2015-10-05 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Try using your body instead of your arms, when grinding. Stand with one foot on the cockpit seat, and one foot against the rail. Use both hands on the winch handle, and grind away. Depending on where your winch is located, you'll either face forward or aft while grinding, and let someone else

Stus-List MOB - Lifesling

2015-09-18 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Practice with it, before you need it. You might discover it would take too long doing it the way you described. Or you might think of a better way. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR We have a lifesling, that if the person in the water can get into it, he/she can be

Stus-List Spreader lights

2015-08-26 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I use a Forespar, combination bow light/deck light. The bow light for motoring at night, and the deck light taking the place of actual spreader lights. I they're not LED, but I rarely use either of them when not motoring or powered up in a moorage. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC

Stus-List 37+ Navteq hydraulic backstay hoses

2015-08-23 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I use Lew Townsend in Seattle: lewtowns...@comcast.net 206-498-7282 He did rebuilds for me, and he can make new hoses for you. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC 'Portland, OR Hey guys, I just found one my hydraulic backstay hoses is leaking. It looks like it is leaking

Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I bought a fiberglass tank to replace a steel tank that was rusting. Two years later, the fiberglass tank was recalled. The company went out of business, and I was out the cost of the tank. I ended up buying an aluminum tank from Amazon. You might want to check to see whether your fiberglass

Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Check the ones at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FPZABU?refRID=J3TMFXAD6Y5SB8DNH481ref_=pd_ys_c_rfy_rp_1 Same as what West Marine sells, but lots cheaper. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR If anyone has older aluminum tanks, a newer, legal fitting can

Re: Stus-List Crew Assignments - 35mkIII

2015-08-16 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
On my boat, the primaries are the non-self tailing larger (Barient 28) winches that are forward, and the secondaries are the smaller (Barient 23) self-tailing winches aft. My trimmer stands at the shrouds so he can see the curl of the spinnaker. We put one or two wraps on the secondary winch,

Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-10 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
The engine should turn over whether the glow plug button is depressed or not. Twelve volts should go to the ignition switch. The other side of the ignition switch should go to the starter button and to the glow plug button. Depressing the glow plug button will energize the glow plug. Then

Stus-List Lloyd Lippe update

2015-08-03 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
The AIS Fred sold me was a big help while cruising for two months this summer. I contacted some boats by name, and some contacted me by name. Better choice than radar. Thanks Fred Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR His new instruments are reportedly working great; his

Stus-List replacing furling line

2015-07-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
My Harken furler has a hole in the top of the drum. I just pass the furling line through the hole, and tie a knot. Nothing more. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions

Re: Stus-List Best EngineYanmar 3GM + Prop?

2015-07-21 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Simple Rule of Thumb: If you can't get to max rated RPM, you're over-pitched. If you can get higher than max rated RPM, you're under-pitched. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR John, Mike and any others with a Yanmar 3GM30F What is the make, diameter and pitch of

Re: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous

2015-07-09 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
After racing to Victoria in the Oregon Offshore race, and sailing in Puget Sound, and the San Juan and Gulf Islands for seven weeks, I couldn't stay another five weeks for the rendezvous. Sorry I'll miss it this year. How about having it in June, next year? Let's try a different venue - Roche

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki KBW10 Transmission Leakage

2015-05-15 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Remove the transmission (easy job). The seal has to be pressed into the housing. I had a little trouble because my zinc anode was too far forward, and I couldn't move the shaft back after disconnecting the coupling. When you reconnect the coupling, you can check your alignment with a feeler

Re: Stus-List Tiller on CC 35 Mkiii?

2015-04-17 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I'll be in Portland until May 4. Then I'll be heading to Astoria to race the Oregon Offshore (track us at www.oregonoffshore.org ), from Astoria to Victoria. After that I'll be cruising until mid August. email me, Dave if you want to meet to talk about 35 Mk III's. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III

Stus-List Outboard in the river

2015-04-13 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Fred: First try blowing out any visible water. Then change the oil and filters. If there's a chance that water got mixed with the gas, don't run it, as you'll have a major job. Instead, dump the gas, put in new gas and oil mixture, and give it a try. The sooner you run it the better. If water

Re: Stus-List CC 35-3 Keel Joint

2015-04-02 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I had the keel dropped, a number of years ago. There was a huge void around the forward keel bolt, and terribly smelly water came out of the keel bolt hole. The yard ground the stub and the top of the keel, epoxied the two together, filled the void with epoxy and wrapped the joint with glass.

Stus-List First aid kit

2015-03-26 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Check with the local Red Cross. They sell first aid kits in different sizes. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty I'd like to buy an offshore first aid kit. The large ones, even on sale at Defender, are $450. There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.

Stus-List Rigging set-up

2015-03-25 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Where's the video, Joel? All, In order to help my race crew adjust to my boat, I made 2 short videos showing the running rigging and electronics that are on YouTube under CC 35 Rigging. If you are bored, take a look. What I've done may not be right for anyone else, but it might give you

Stus-List Bilge Pump now Bilge Pump Switch

2015-03-24 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
After replacing float switches more than once, I switched to the Water Witch. It gets the water lower in the bilge, and it comes with a five year warranty. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Just to be clear. The Water Witch switch

Re: Stus-List Stove

2015-03-06 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Thirsty - Original Message - CNG is what we have. Lighter than air. Pretty hard to find places to refill canister though From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:43 AM To: CC Photoalbum email list

Re: Stus-List Stove

2015-03-06 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Remember that propane is heavier than air. If you install a propane stove, the propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US. Ordered on

Stus-List Access Hatch

2015-03-02 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I cut an access hatch in the quarter berth, several years ago, to make it easier to get to the oil dipstick and secondary filter. It was especially handy, last week when I had to replace the mixing elbow. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR

Stus-List Boat Software

2015-02-04 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I'm looking for software that allows me to show the location of items stored on my boat. I downloaded it once, but can't seem to find it. Anyone know where I can find it? Alan Bergen CC 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ Email

Re: Stus-List 3GM Transmission

2015-02-03 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I had the same problem. I bought a new cone, and installed it, but still had the same problem. Then I discovered that there was too much play in the shifting. In other words, when I disconnected the shaft, I could move the transmission coupling forward and back, which allowed the cone to

Re: Stus-List 3GM Transmission

2015-02-03 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Sorry. That should have been $483 + $12 shipping. Alan I had the same problem. I bought a new cone, and installed it, but still had the same problem. Then I discovered that there was too much play in the shifting. In other words, when I disconnected the shaft, I could move the

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2015-01-24 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Mine was done with epoxy. It's easier to break loose, if necessary, than 5200. The joint was finished with a layer of fiberglass cloth. No leaks, and you can't even see the joint. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - Congrats Dave. Looks

Re: Stus-List message delivery problems

2015-01-23 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I haven't had any problems. Windows 8.something, Firefox. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2015-01-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ After removing the bolts holding the

Re: Stus-List Adjustable Prop

2015-01-03 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
The correct setting will allow your engine to reach maximum rpm (Nigel Calder says at least 90% of rated speed), under load (in gear) at full throttle. If you can't reach max rpm, you're over pitched. If you can run faster than max rpm, you're under pitched. Normal run speed is about eighty

Re: Stus-List Furl 1st or Reef 1st

2014-12-04 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Besides looking at boat speed, you have to also look at wind angle, or in other words VMG. I was overpowered so often with a 155, that I stopped using it and switched to a 135. I heeled less, and gained five degrees wind angle and six seconds of handicap. This year I stopped using the 135, and

Re: Stus-List bird spikes

2014-12-01 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I just ordered spikes from Wal-mart. After two years of being bombarded by cormorants, it's time to fight back. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:

Re: Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I couldn't tell from your picture, Burt, but if your jack stands are sitting on the bare ground (dirt or gravel) I hope you remembered to place plywood under the stands. Otherwise, be prepared to see the stands sink when the weather becomes wet. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC

Re: Stus-List Winter Worries

2014-11-19 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Don.t rely on shore power in the winter. I lost an engine, many years ago, when the marina lost power for eight hours. I relied on a heater to keep the engine from freezing, and didn't winterize with antifreeze. I ended up replacing the engine. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC

Re: Stus-List Winter Worries

2014-11-18 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Don't take a chance. A cracked block block is an expensive repair. Put a heater on board, and leave the engine compartment open. If the engine is even partly frozen, you won't be able to run antifreeze through it until it thaws. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR

Stus-List Newly Reduced Pricing! - Sailor's Guide to the Racing Rules

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Here's a great guide for those of you who are new to racing, or those who would like a quick reference guide. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - Newly Reduced Pricing Sailor's Guide to the Racing Rules $.95 Members $1.50 Retail

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

2014-10-31 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
My best surfing experience was 12 knots boat speed, in 42 knots true wind speed, down the Straits of Juan de Fuca ---until my spinnaker exploded. It was a hell of a ride while it lasted. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR Hi Rob and Hank, Did any of the CC models

Re: Stus-List Racing rules question

2014-10-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Charlie: If NC (the middle boat) cannot head up when you try to take her up, she will be exonerated at your protest hearing if she protested the windward boat at the first reasonable opportunity and she raised her protest flag at the first reasonable opportunity . Otherwise, her protest will

Stus-List Canada Discovery Pass

2014-10-14 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I recently drove through some National Parks in Western Canada, and I no longer need my Discovery Pass. The pass is good for all the occupants in your vehicle, and it expires in September 2015. I paid $136 CD ($128 US). I will sell it for $80 CD ($75 US). If interested, contact me directly.

Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Under the Mast on 35 MK 3

2014-10-13 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I had a problem similar to Jake's. When the boat was out of the water, I could wiggle the keel from side to side. There was also the CC smile. We dropped the keel, and flushed out the forward keel bolt hole from below. Horrible smell, like Jake experienced. The yard ground the top of the keel

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Tom: Your electronic bilge pump switch shouldn't be mounted to the bottom of the bilge. Try lifting it a bit to see whether it solves your problem. If the sensor on the switch is always in the water, it will never shut off, and the bilge pump might not be getting the water low enough. These

Re: Stus-List Back stay adjuster repair, NOT by Navtec

2014-10-11 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I had a backstay cylinder fail while on an ocean race. Spilled hydraulic fluid all over the cockpit floor. Jim Watts arranged for a local shop in Victoria to do the repair. No problems with the repair. When I had problems with the pump that controls the vang and backstay, I used a repair shop

Stus-List NW Rendezvous 2015

2014-09-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Jim: We should try to get US Watercraft to visit at the NW rendezvous, next year. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web,

Re: Stus-List Slacking the Baby Stay

2014-08-25 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Slacken the back stay. That might be enough to relieve the baby stay tension. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list

Re: Stus-List Racing rules at marks

2014-08-19 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Actually, you had an inside overlap. There is no requirement for boats to be in close proximity to one another for an overlap to exist. You were clear ahead until the other boat established an overlap to windward of you. The only way for the other boat to have had rights would be if it became

Re: Stus-List Marina camouflage now drying cushions

2014-08-03 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Hi Lee: When I made my pipe berths, I wrapped the memory foam with plastic to prevent it from getting wet. I used 0.7 mil plastic drop cloth which I got at Home Depot in the paint department. It's so thin that you don't even know it's there. Alan

Re: Stus-List Play in the steering

2014-07-14 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
David: Center the wheel and lock it in place with the brake. Then tighten the four screws that hold the bearing around the rudder post to the cockpit floor. You'll have to remove the helm seat in order to reach in through the access ports so you can hold the nuts with a wrench. Once that is

Re: Stus-List Crab pot free / tow lane - Columbia River to Victoria

2014-06-27 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Whenever I race up the coast, we always have to watch for crab pots. I seem to recall that there was a line of pots around 200' water depth, but they could be almost anywhere. You can motor up the coast, within a mile of shore. Stay outside of Destruction Island, Umatilla Reef and Cape

Re: Stus-List Rigging Problem

2014-06-27 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
At the dock, check mast position to be sure it's not leaning to one side. Use a halyard to measure from the top of the mast to the rail on each side. Then adjust your lowers and mid shrouds to remove any sideways bend. Don't over tighten the turnbuckles. When sailing to windward, adjust the

Re: Stus-List Tacking the genoa

2014-06-25 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I notice that many people tend to use an arm, rather than their body, to grind. I teach my crew to stand on the cockpit seat and place one foot against the rail. Then face aft and grind with both hands while the tailer calls the trim. If you're not doing that, try it, and you'll notice the

Re: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting

2014-06-17 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
You can try Cook Engines in Portland, OR. (503) 289-8466. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

2014-06-12 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Tim: It's important to know the force being applied, not the pressure. Force is equal to pressure multiplied by the area of the hydraulic cylinder, and all cylinders are not the same. There's a Navtec manual on the photoalbum web site. Find out which hydraulic cylinder you have, and look up

Re: Stus-List Windows

2014-06-11 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Welcome to the list, Burt, and congratulations on your new boat. There's information about window replacement on the web site cncphotoalbum.com, under the heading Do it yourself. You can make your own. I used 9mm, #126 bronze cast acrylic. (Plexiglass is a brand name.) Cast is stronger than

Re: Stus-List Compass Oil

2014-06-05 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Someone suggested mineral spirits. That's another name for paint thinner, and shouldn't be used. Use mineral oil. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsy Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or

Re: Stus-List Cool Change and Oregon Offshore Race

2014-05-10 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I received this email from Frank, this morning: ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Cool change and Oregon Offshore Race

2014-05-10 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I received this email from Frank, this morning: As you know, we decided not to race in the Oregon offshore. This decision was made at 0600 Thursday morning. All the crew members were in agreement not to participate in the race. We had been monitoring the weather for the past 30 days and

Stus-List Oregon Offshore Race Report

2014-05-10 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
http://www.pressure-drop.us/forums/content.php?4394-Icon-Crushes-Oregon-Offshore-Records=86d077f759d8147100bc760e329610b6 Alan Bergen CC 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album

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