Stus-List Draft question

Hey guys...help me out? Trying to get my PHRF numbers correct, and since Lake Michigan is getting thinner, how much water I have under my keel. So...I've been using a 5'11" figure for our 1990 37/40+ Daydream, hull 51. I found this, and other rig measures listed on the Sailboatdata.com website.

Stus-List Re: C&C Racing Shirt - Size XL - Free (pay Shipping and Donation)

Did I win Edd? *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:23 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers, > > Happy new year! > > I’m giving away my never-worn C&C Racing polo shirt, size XL. > > On the front is the C&C logo with “RACING” underneat

Stus-List Re: Seasons' Greeting

Yes! Merry Christmas and Happy Sailing '24!!🏝️🥂 *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 5:50 PM John Irvin via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hear hear! > > Get Outlook for iOS > -- > *From:* Schiller via CnC-L

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] No Traffic

Still lurking here... *Chuck Saur* *C$C 37/40+* 517 490-5926 Cell On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 12:16 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I am still here. Maybe everyone is out sailing or died of heat stroke. > Joe > Coquina > > -Original Message- > From

Stus-List Re: Dead Battery Charger

Update…and thanks for all input. I’m going with replacing my existing charger with same. From all your suggestions I think it’s worth redesigning my current battery system this winter. Will keep me busy…and can use this new charger at home. Thanks again for all the input. Have a great weekend! On

Stus-List Dead Battery Charger

Hello gang... My battery charger died this weekend. Its demise was swift, but provides an opportunity. It was a ProMariner Sport 20amp, and apparently did a good job. But...since I am not an expert in this field...and need to part with boat bucks anyway, do you guys have better ideas? I have t

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Landfall 43 opinions

FYI- Not sure if it is for sale, but pretty sure there is a 43 sitting on the hard in Gallows Bay on St Croix. Been there for several years. Always wondered what the story was, and unsure about status. Light blue hull. Ketch rigged, which seems rare. *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell On Mon

Stus-List Re: Moving 43 landfall from GA to FL and riggers.

*Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Call Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport. Yes, they are in Wisconsin but travel all over. Sometimes a small run like yours would be possible and perhaps cheaper on a dead-head run to somewhere else. Did an incredible job for me from Lake Lanier to Hessel, Mi

Stus-List Cutting Board Form Error

Hey Stu! I really want a couple cutting boards...and have had a problem ordering: There is no space, line or instruction for including my phone number. But when I click on "Confirm Order" it says I need to fill out phone number, and won't allow me to go further. Not sure if this is a shared iss

Stus-List Re: Fwd: C&C Board

Yes...I got bounced. Sorry about that. I would like 2 with boat names. When/how would you need them? Thanks!! *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayP

Stus-List Re: Boat trucking recommendations

Highly recommend Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport. In Port Washington, WI.https://www.greatlakesmarineservices.com/ourteam.htm Jim did a stellar job moving my boat from Georgia to Michigan's UP. *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the

Stus-List Re: Accessing A/C unit behind stairs of a 37/40+

Hi Bruce! I have had the stairs and engine compartment off. The stairs and top are mounted together. Remove stair brackets at top of companionway. There are screws shot upwards into the top from above the engine thru two cross-pieces. IIRC correctly. You need to remove any soundproofing to find sc

Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE

Do you have a topping lift? I was accidentally tightening my main sheet to stop the boom vang squeak...and was tuning my topping lift like a guitar string. Another experience with neighboring boat had a in-mast furler groove make spooky notes like a flute when wind hit just right angle. Your res

Stus-List Ceramic coatings?

Has anyone tried any of the ‘new’ ceramic-based coatings that would replace waxing the hull? Not sure if this is for real or not...promises of shiny boat and uv protection for entire year in a bottle. (Seems I’ve heard that one before?) Glidecoat is pricey and many products/other stuff is around $

Stus-List midship cleats on aluminum rail?

On several nasty nights I used my hefty Wichard snatch blocks for midship tether (to keep me off the dock, attached to a neighboring spring piling) and other times for springlines. Just clip 'em on to wherever you need on the toerail. Works great. *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all o

Stus-List Asymmetrical Spinnaker outside jibe

Good descriptions of asym handling. Should be receiving a new asym for my 37+...and will be my first time on this boat. Question for any other 37+ skippers with asym rig...how long are your sheets? And what size line? Thoughts?-- *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all of the subscribers th

Stus-List Re: Broken rod rigging attachment for babystay deck at keel - 37/40+

Hello Bruce! I was told the baby stay’s primary function was to mitigate mast pumping in a seaway and/or from harmonics. Secondary function to assist mast bend. I know C&C skippers who don’t use it. I believe mine has a padeye bolted or screwed into the sump and a turnbuckle to adjust. Not structu

Stus-List Transporting

Nice, Edd...or a Calvin and Hobbes-developed transmogrifyer? Sorry. *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.pa

Stus-List Transporting

Highly recommend Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport. In Port Washington, WI. https://www.greatlakesmarineservices.com/ourteam.htm Jim did a stellar job moving my boat from Georgia to Michigan's UP. *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the li

Stus-List Listers Age Range

I'm 65 until October...1990 37+ *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --

Stus-List Prop pitch help!

Does any 37+ owner with a Universal M35 and maxprop feathering three blade know their prop pitch? Mine is set at 22 degrees but last year I could not get beyond 5.5 knots. PYI manual specs that pitch. It looks entirely too flat to me. Help?!? -- *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell

Stus-List Need to replace forward hatch on 35 mkIII

On my former boat...a 1985 35-3, I am pretty sure the hatches were all Bomar. I have been watching this thread, and haven't seen Bomar mentioned. Maybe mine was an oddity. The other part I missed is whether or not this is a hinge issue, lens or frame issue? I just had the lens on my 37+ redone,

Re: Stus-List Instrument Cabling / Edson Pedestal Guard

Hello Edd from snowy Michigan. I added a Navpod to my helm station last year. Also installed new (taller) guard, chrome binnacle support/spreader, primed and painted the old black, nasty faded pedestal white, and added new decals...along with rebuilding the brake and lubing up the steering chain a

Stus-List C&C 37+ -- Head Vented Loop?

Edd...I had to disconnect and take the Y-valve out. As I understand it, you cannot have overboard discharge in the great lakes. Perhaps the PO of my boat did some earlier surgery... *Chuck Saur* 517 490-5926 Cell ___ Thanks everyone for supporting t

Stus-List C&C 37+ -- Head Vented Loop?

Hello Edd...no vented loop on my 1990 37+. I checked and can see the waste hose enter the holding tank at the top of the tank. Have not had issues...yet! If you choose to do that, let me know how you fit in into the space there! I did change out the entire pump assembly on a head rebuild last y

Stus-List Universal Diesel harness upgrade

Hello from already snowy Michigan. Seems the 1990 M-35 I have for power in my boat is, well, not really designed well in the wiring department. I have read stuff describing it as "dangerous" to "fatal" and worse. There appear to be two related issues: First, that the harness is not capable of the

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 165, Issue 25

Thanks for compiling this list, Edd. Maybe you have stated this, but how will this be used? (Hopefully not for phonecalls revealing my vehicle warranty has expired;-) Name Chuck Saur Boat name Daydream C&C Model 37+ C&C Year 1990 Sail number 4493 Email Address cssau...@gmail.com Home Port H

Stus-List Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+

I just saw a sale at Defender on replacement lenses for Aqua Signal Series 41 side lights and stern light, and might be what I need to replace mine, but am nowhere near the boat to see what model light I have. I do know they are Aqua Signal brand. If you have them, is anyone able to check the mod

Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

I had same/similar issue on my new(to me) boat with EV-100. Make sure the hex-head screw in drive lever is tight!!! -- *Chuck Saur* *Board Chair * *Olivia's Gift*517 490-5926 Cell 616 977-5766 Fax www.oliviasgift.org [image: OG logo] ___ Than

Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

Thanks for all the responses and generous offers of help! I had the yard pull DAYDREAM out this morning, and fixed the issue! Here are some key things I learned: -There is no mention of "numbered parts" in the original manual for the MaxProp Classic three blade feathering prop. You need to wipe

Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

Hello listers...anyone have a fixed three blade propeller, 16x9 RH for a 1 1/8 shaft? It's for my 37+ who has a problem with the Max Prop that is currently installed. I want to get a quick solution, and use the fixed blade for this year, while I send the MaxProp for reconditioning. Just hoping so

Stus-List Furling line cleating

Happy spring!!?? Ice shanty or two (with trucks) still on Hessel Bay!! I have been searching for a new way to cleat my furling line. Currently have just a 'horned' cleat mounted on the coaming sidewall. I have been looking at Harken's 'flip-flop' (pivoting) block mounted to deck with integral ca

Stus-List Logowear sighting...

We are skiing at Copper Mountain in Colorado, and while in our condo, the Saturday local TV news came on. The sound was down, but I glanced up to notice a fellow being interviewed...wait for it...wearing a familiar light-colored shirt with a C&C Yachts logo! I wondered at that point if I were the

Stus-List headsail, maybe 125-135?

Adding to the discussion about headsails...I purchased an old Haarstick used #3 dubbed "bug sail" for early season sailing in northern Lake Huron. Seems the off-balanced food chain has favored a prolific midge population that hatches and coats nice white sails in a black smudge for about 2-3 weeks

Stus-List Head plumbing...

All this chatter about plumbing raised, for me, a related question for you 37+ guys. I am changing a leaking, not really serviceable toilet to a new one, and plan to change the hoses as well. On the 37+ there appears to be no factory-installed vented loop on discharge line. Not one on my ex-boat,

Stus-List 37+ Prop Pitch for Universal 35

I have a MaxProp classic, and a Universal 35 on Daydream. The prop pitch appears very shallow, and when motoring, seems to be slow. (from memory of last September, 4.5 knots@ 2300rpms) Any 37+ owners have this combination of prop and engine, and happen to know the correct pitch for the MaxProp pr

Stus-List Stair Treads and companion way finishes

Happy New Year all. Cheers from the balmy Straits of Mackinac. My new-to-me 37+ has a bright interior, and my sanding hand has been twitching a bit, thinking I could re-varnish the interior starting with companionway steps. Then, I ran across a fairly new product, apparently, called Rubbed Effec

Stus-List Air conditioner placement

Ok all you 37+ guys...the mirror discussion sparked a thought: I have air conditioner installation located in aft cabin hanging locker, and would like to move it to have the storage. The space under the companionway is open. I'm thinking I could install AC unit in the space below companionway st

Stus-List Painting pedestal

Happy fall to all... I have disassembled most of the Edson pedestal on my new-to-me 37+ to replace the brake, replace the guard, install a new pod, do some rewiring, and lube and inspect steering. So now I want to paint the old faded black with a new shiny gloss white. I would rather do this in p

Stus-List years a C&C owner

This topic is fascinating from two perspectives for me: First, how loyal and long-term the owners seem to be, and second, the stories about the boats and families who own them! I purchased my first C&C 35-3 Morning Sky (ex Pegusus) in Charlevoix, MI in January 2013. Had her painted, and over the

Stus-List Need sails...

Hello listers... I recently purchased a 37+ and wondering if anyone has gently used sails they would part with? Still a month of heavier air up here in Mackinac, and current sails a bit big, light, and too much for my shorthanded crew. Would like #2 and #3 but open to other ideas. Check those bi

Stus-List Old B&G Focus instrument heads

Happy Labor Day week! New boat (for me) and working to upgrade nav station, so I have three B&G Focus instruments...AWI/speed...Depth...and an apparent "master controller dial" (did not find much information on my brief Google search). They were mounted inside the nav station and are in perfect s

Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

Happy summer! I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about the basic C&C 37/40? Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically. Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat. Thoughts? *Chuck Saur* (517)-490-5926 ___

Stus-List Traveler fit?

Hello from frozen Michigan. I am still spending my kids' inheritance on deck hardware. Question for 35-3 owners or others: Has anyone replaced the aging Schaefer main traveler? What advice might you offer...Defender has a sale on Lewmar traveler kits, size 2 which would offer enough capacity fo

Stus-List Reinstalling plexi windows...again.

Happy spring?? I recall someone commented on priming and/or painting the smoke-tint plexiglass edge areas, prior to installing, to hide the the VHB and Dow 795, so all does not show through the smoke plexi against the white cabin side along those edge areas. I have the window dug out, whew, and

Stus-List Stove

Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my 35-3. I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol model and de-fused the beast. If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please? Thanks! *Chuck Sa

Stus-List Closed the deal

Congrats on the purchase, Neil! My 35-3 is in UP...but I live a fairly itinerant lifestyle between Hessel and Grand Rapids. Not sure where you are, but send me a note offline if you want to chat/swap. I have stuff and stories. cs *Chuck Saur* ​C&C 35-3 Morning Sky​ ___

Re: Stus-List 1983 C&C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Wow...almost missed a chance to brag about my boat?!! I've been trying to cruise the Grand Traverse area of Lake Michigan, and got weathered in. Heading to Charlevoix tomorrow, then hopefully home to St Ignace. Great week if it were October!! My 35-3 is a 1985, and just love the boat. Never a

Stus-List Bilge Water Level

>From experience- check the raw-water intake valve on your toilet (make sure it's shut) and the sink drain in the head. They only used single hose clamps, (not double) on mine and short drain and intake cuffs. My loosened and slipped out of place over time without notice...and water in bilge was q

Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

I removed the companionway hood on Morning Sky (35-3) and resealed with LifeSeal but wish I had used butyl. The screws seemed adequate, as there appears no big structural issues...but there is a shallow 'crease' around the perimeter of the hood (not the drain gutters to port and starboard) that I

Stus-List Deck non-skid

So...I'm looking at a hairline crack in non-skid portion of foredeck, right at the seam where the foredeck ends and the trunk cabin begins. Needs attention, and thinking of creating a one-inch bright gelcoat "stripe" that follows the contour of the forward edge of the cabin. This would allow a go

Stus-List Icebox conversion...

I recall discussion about this, but could not find the thread. I'm looking into icebox conversion for spring, and wondering if anyone has recommendations? Not sure the advantages with water-cooled v. fan cooled, except the heat buildup in the locker with compressor heated air. Other consideratio

Stus-List Best-est wax or other protectant

Yikes! Thanks, Bill. Yes, my labeling jargon edit button was off. Topsides on my boat sport AwlCraft, and only get the Awlgrip protectant. The deck and cockpit have deserved attention, but are not bad. I have read that the sandpaper treatment is not an annual recommendation and I want to preserv

Stus-List Best-est wax or other protectant

Spent some real quality boat time last week...using 1000 grit wet sandpaper to de-oxidize my topsides (where there is no non-skid). The process was sand...buff with buffer/oxidation remover...seal with teflon polish...and seal/shine with wax. (Then a couple beers for the laborer...me!) Given the

Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of Captain's Varnish (or similar?). Says Cetol finish by itself is too soft for his liking. Has worked great for me... *Chuck Saur* (517)-490-5926 _

Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

My experience: When I purchased Morning Sky, the PO had installed solar vents, one in the forward hatch, and other in the 12x17 hatch abaft of the mast. (on my 35-3) Not a pretty solution, but appeared to work well, and visitors commented that it didn't smell 'diesel-y'. Also, in the summer, it k

Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay. It was less than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a local machine shop (as suggested here) to fit. Went from a 36" to 44" wheel on

Stus-List Halyard replacement to Dyneema or similar

Greetings...just 14 weeks till launch 2017! I could not find listers' advice/experience about changing SIZE of halyard line from current wire/rope to Dyneema blend (looking at 3/8 Samson MLX). The halyard sheaves appear to have enough width to handle 3/8 line; and understand the sheaves need to

Stus-List Prop purchase

Happy New Year sailors! Made the mistake of visiting the boat this week. I know this rekindles an older discussion...but do any of you 35-3 owners have experience with purchase and performance of a Flex-O-Fold prop? I looked in archives and noted some intent to purchase this brand, but no testimo

Stus-List Cleat covers

Thanks, Dennis! Nice option...the "parking cleat" looks like something I will consider. I looked up the working load rating for the Harken 150 cam cleat (required-and in my parts tub) and it's 300lbs. Does anyone know the loads for a 35-3 halyard at the mast for the cam cleat and base mount turn

Stus-List Cleat covers

Good chat on both the jib fastening (I am ordering soft shackles and sheets soon) and cleat covers...which brings up another dilemma with my rig: My halyards run to stoppers on top of cabin, and my genoa (roller furled) is seldom changed, and typically for a race. I wonder if anyone has either in

Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

Hey gang...snow here and need a diversion. I'm surfing for deals on line for my jib (genoa) sheets, and wondered if there is anything new or improved anyone is doing when tying on the sheets. I''ve been using the ol' bowline...but have used the butterfly (I think that's what a loop on a continuou

Stus-List wind data snafu

Hello gang...just got to boat and wind data and depth was gone on my B&G IS40 system. I checked connection to backbone and all tight. Now here is the first suspect issue: when I disconnect the connector from the cups/vane to the backbone, the depth data is displayed correctly. Plug the wind i

Re: Stus-List Salon Lighting (Ron Ricci)

I've replaced all my fluorescent T-5 bulbs with LEDs that fit in the old bulb receivers. Bought em online at mingsmark.com for about $20. Really happy with the change. They have a section for RV and marine, so have purchased other stuff too. Chuck Saur Morning Sky C&C35-3 St Ignace

Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

Hello gang. Thinking of warm weather and reading the great article on lightning protection by Glen Miller (thank you whoever sent the link). I could absorb most of the intent, although some of the detail was a little over my head. One of the most critical points he made was to connect the mast to

Stus-List FM antenna?

You experts are the best! I am ordering a Shakespeare antenna splitter...as it appears that will be a very cheap but effective addition. The FM receiver is 6" away from the VHF and the whole idea makes sense. Will report in May when it gets installed. Thanks guys!! Now...has anyone replaced the

Stus-List FM antenna?

Quick survey: What are y'all using for FM antenna? I have Bluetooth, Auxiliary inputs, iPad, GoFree (B&G Chartplotter), marina WiFi, Pandora, and nice, new speakers. Wired for sound, I brag... But I want to listen to good ol' FM radio sometimes, and have issues with the single line antenna outp

Stus-List Boom vanging...

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising. I am looking to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is always in the way of everything. I will also replace the blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don'

Stus-List Cruising chute tack

Ok...the thermometer just hit 30 and I'm all in thinking about getting the boat chores done... So a question: I purchased a new asymmetrical cruising chute last year. Of you experts out there with cruisin' chutes...what is your arrangement for securing the tack at the bow of the boat? Years ago,

Stus-List Vessel Documentation

We had a wait of approx. 3 months when we applied for our documentation transfer after purchasing Morning Sky (new name). We received a letter from USCG verifying the pending app date of submission and expected wait time. Shortly after receiving that letter, we were stopped by LOCAL sheriff patr

Stus-List vessel documentation

I found this on another listserv, and wonder about the link to some discussion about the exterior nameplate? I like the look of this, and will explore other like-type engraved options and report back. This just looks cool...even in the bilge!! http://shop.sailboatowners.com/prod.php?50682 *Chu

Stus-List Vessel Documentation

Greetings from frozen north... I have not permanently displayed my USCG vessel documentation numbers in my cabin. If anyone is documented, do you have advice, suggestion, experience and/or pics you could share for doing this? I have seen some poor examples, and am puzzled as to where to display

Stus-List Wheel replacement C&C35 mk3

Thanks all for info and perspectives on the retro-wheel-fit. Chuck G, thanks for the Edson help. The ebay pic showed the wheel on an Edson ped but you may be right on with the metric possibility. I will not modify the hub shaft. I will toy around with the wheel. I have an additional Edson shaf

Stus-List Wheel replacement C&C35 mk3

Hello listers after a year's sabbatical from this list. My 35-3 has an Edson 36" six-spoke flat wheel with 1" straight hub. (maybe all are same) Here's a confession: I have suffered from wheel envy, and recently purchased an old 44" Yacht Specialties wheel on ebay. It has similar, but not quite