Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-26 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List
If they let out too much water it impedes freighter traffic and would flood Montreal . Sent from Joe Bognar > On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:52 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > >  > This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them? > Does anything control the amount

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-25 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
Yah, my friend with the cottage north of Holland MI says it isn't that the lake is higher than it ever has been, this is just another incidence of it being high. He used to have a few hundred feet of sand between his cottage and water, not any more... but bought the land from some folks who

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2019-11-25 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
There is a "Regulating Dam" on the Iroquois Section of the St. Lawrence Seaway which is there just for that purpose. This river control dam is built across the river from Rockway Point, located on the north shore of New York State, directly across from the town, to Point Iroquois. There is a

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-25 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
We have really high tides sometimes, but it goes back out 6 hours later, not NEXT YEAR. I did not realize the Lakes were variable to that extent. Joe Coquina On 11/25/2019 8:59 AM, schiller via CnC-List wrote: Joe, As I understand it, not really.  The water levels were really low in 2013

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2019-11-25 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Joe, As I understand it, not really.  The water levels were really low in 2013 and there was a lot of discussion about how to restrict the flows.  There was discussion of placing restrictive boulders in the St. Clair river to try to control the outflow from Lakes Superior/Michigan/Huron. 

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2019-11-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them? Does anything control the amount of water that heads out to sea down the St. Lawrence Seaway, Erie Canal, and so on? Joe Coquina ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with

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2019-11-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
r swimmers and folks walking out on > piers -- the waves wash over the concrete piers with very little wind. > > Jeff Laman > C "Harmony" > Ludington, MI > > -- > *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER > *Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2019 3:30 P

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2019-11-24 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
-emptive move to avoid flooding next year. Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: 23 November, 2019 15:30 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C FWIW, Toronto had flooded docks when I was there in July

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2019-11-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C FWIW, Toronto had flooded docks when I was there in July because of unusually high water levels. Chuck, Resolute, C 34R, Pasadena, Md On November 23, 2019 at 9:42 AM "Matthew L. Wolford vi

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2019-11-24 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
c-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C FWIW, Toronto had flooded docks when I was there in July because of unusually high water levels. Chuck, Resolute, C 34R, Pasadena, Md On November 23, 2019 at 9:42 AM "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" wrote: We are hav

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2019-11-23 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
feet. > > From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 6:34 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net mailto:pete.shelqu...@comcast.net > Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-23 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Here on White Lake (Lake Michigan), we have floating docks so their was only problems with the water lines on the shore connections (you can only flex PVC so far before it give up).  White Lake Yacht Club has fixed docks and had water nearly over the docks.  They curtailed swimming off the

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2019-11-23 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
members could go due to the flooding, and the abnormal amount of debris in the lake. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List Sent: November 23, 2019 6:35 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C We

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2019-11-23 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
in lake level between Toledo and Buffalo was 14 feet. From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 6:34 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C We have record high water levels on Western Lake

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2019-11-23 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
The high water levels in the Great Lakes are being caused by intense low temperatures which freeze the surface and stop evaporation.  It is the same function as pool covers here in Florida.  Interestingly,  evaporation on the lakes is highest when the humidity is low. So if you folks get

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-23 Thread Glen Dickson via CnC-List
Here at our club on Lake Ontario we (thankfully) have floating docks. Access to those floating docks is now the concern. Plus one of our retaining walls has been washed out. As part of a rebuild project we are also raising the height of our fixed walkways by 10” to help keep the land access to

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C

2019-11-23 Thread pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List
We have record high water levels on Western Lake Superior and I understand others in the great lakes are experiencing the same if not worse. With the forecast unclear if this water level is a new normal or cyclical, and the fixed docks at our club nearing max height, I’m wondering what other

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2012-10-10 Thread Frederick G Street
True -- but they're entirely surrounded by the lake up there on the Keeweenaw. I was thinking of the downwind plumes like they get in Buffalo. We don't see that on the western end of the lake. And we don't have anything like the upper Great Lakes upwind of us to provide the moisture, like

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2012-10-09 Thread schil...@bloomingdalecom.net
snowfall this year due to the higher than usual Lake temperature… From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Speaking just for Lake

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2012-10-09 Thread Rick Brass
Brodersen Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 8:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Neil, I’ll vouch for the 396 inches. I was there during the winter of 78-79. Even for a Youper, that was a lot of snow! Jake BSCS Michigan Tech 1979

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2012-10-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
with that section of the country, but it does sound more like a weather problem than a man-made one. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30 STL --- On *Wed, 10/3/12, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com* wrote: From: Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com Subject: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels To: cnc-list

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2012-10-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic
There is also the effect of the post-glacial rebound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound). The evaporation (esp. during winter) and much lower precipitation (there were some 6 months of near (or real) draught) create a perfect storm for the lower water levels. Possibly, time to

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-04 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Where are you located Marek?Ron --- On Thu, 10/4/12, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 10:30 AM There is also the effect

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-04 Thread Chuck S
, Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: Walt Dickie wa...@crresearch.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 3:49:22 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Absolutely right. Most people around the Chicago area, where

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2012-10-04 Thread Fair, Mike
4:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels This is an amazing list. Some people may not think it important, but I appreciate the detailed explanation of what is causing Great Lake water level problems, and the detail of why is just excellent. Now I

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2012-10-04 Thread Walt Dickie
PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels I also believe the whole area is slowly lifting up (rebounding) after being burdened by the weight of a mile or so of ice during the last ice age. Mike Cio Cio San Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun

Stus-List Great Lakes water levels

2012-10-04 Thread Bob Hickson
I am no expert but I know that the levels of the lakes go through natural cycles over a span of several years. http://www.waterlevels.gc.ca/C http://www.waterlevels.gc.ca/CA/netgraphs_e.html A/netgraphs_e.html If you look at the historic levels in the lakes, it seems that the levels in

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2012-10-04 Thread Sam Salter
It's all relative! The lake I sail on is at 4,260 ft. I live just down the road. My sense is that when the ice caps melt I'll have beach front property. You guys will be up to your armpits - or deeper!!! sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2012-10-04, at 7:42 PM, Bob Hickson

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2012-10-03 Thread Bill Coleman
Stu, if you really want to make some waves, get BoatUS in the fray. Bill Coleman CC 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 4:44 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

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2012-10-03 Thread Robert Mazza
OK Stu, here's a dumb question: If the water is leaving the Upper Great Lakes faster than normal, why isn't the level of the Lower Great Lakes rising with all that influx of water? We keep our boat in Hamilton, Ontario, and the water level at the fixed docks at the Royal Hamilton Yacht Club is so

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2012-10-03 Thread Stu
The main intention of my first email, was to pass along information on what is happening to the water levels in the Great Lakes and to let people know that the governments are doing nothing to improve the situation. Allowing the level in 1 lake to drop another 5 feet is going to destroy

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Neil Andersen
-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Speaking just for Lake Superior, we're in a drought situation here right now, so inflow is much reduced; but the biggest culprit seems to be the warmer than usual winters, which lead to significantly reduced ice cover, which in turn leads

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
… From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Speaking just for Lake Superior, we're in a drought situation here right now, so

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2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
Sadly true .. And we'll need wheels on our keels! This is one time I am very happy to have centerboard on Lake Ontario! Paul. :) On 2012-10-03, at 5:53 PM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: If they wait long enough, they'll be able to drive to their cottages... Fred Street --

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2012-10-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
Great Lakes Water Levels Speaking just for Lake Superior, we're in a drought situation here right now, so inflow is much reduced; but the biggest culprit seems to be the warmer than usual winters, which lead to significantly reduced ice cover, which in turn leads to greatly increased

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2012-10-03 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Some folks at our club are having to haul elsewhere this year because they are not able to approach the dock to get into the slings. I'm one of those people but I was planning on hauling elsewhere anyway. Water level is a serious issue at a lot of clubs on Lake Ontario. Steve CC 32 Toronto (TSCC)

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2012-10-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
.  The changes are usually made on the big dams of the Missouri since 40% of the lower Miss' summer flow is from the Missouri.RonWild CheriCC 30STL --- On Wed, 10/3/12, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote: From: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels To: cnc-list

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2012-10-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
a...@airsensing.com wrote: From: Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com Subject: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 5:31 PM Stu is right to point this out.  We need to listen and to do something.  Here is my background based on what

Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-02 Thread Stu
This is NOT CC related, but if you can't sail your boat, it will be: Dear friends of Georgian Bay and Lake Huron, A recent report by the International Joint Commission (IJC) recently announced a recommendation that the water level of Lake Huron/Georgian Bay be allowed to decline by

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2012-10-02 Thread schiller
Stu, I can attest to the dropping water levels. We pulled out early to make sure that we could get our boat up river for haul out. Hopefully we will be able to go in next year. Lake Michigan/Huron (considered on body of water)is within 2 inches of the all time low level for October and it

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2012-10-02 Thread sthoma20
CC27 MKIII Cruising Western Lake Erie Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:17:31 -0400 From: schil...@bloomingdalecom.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels Stu, I can attest to the dropping water levels. We pulled out early