Re: Help with Help

2014-05-08 Thread Gordon Apple
Thanks for that info. I’ll look deeper into it. Sometimes I put out statements in hope that someone will clarify the issue. Our app is complex, years in development, and will require a substantial help book, including videos (maybe the web version), external links, and contextual-help anchors.

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-08 Thread Todd Heberlein
For those interested, I put together a blog entry of my personal notes over the years on using Apple's Help: Help on OS X Help http://www.toddheberlein.com/blog/2014/5/8/help-on-os-x-help On May 8, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Gordon Apple g...@ed4u.com wrote: Our app is complex, years

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Uli Kusterer
On 29 Apr 2014, at 19:52, Gordon Apple g...@ed4u.com wrote: We would like to get a recommendation on the best way to generate a help system for a fairly complex application. We started by using a simple web view and created about 120 screens in BBEdit, mostly drill-down outlines.

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Jakob Egger
I'd strongly recommend against using Apple's Help Book application. There are a few problems with Apple Help: Problems with Help Books First of all, they are poorly documented. It is extremely difficult to structure them in the right way. You can't use HTML5, you have to

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Bill Cheeseman
On May 7, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Jakob Egger ja...@eggerapps.at wrote: Problems with Help Books First of all, they are poorly documented. I disagree with most of Mr. Egger's comments about Help Book problems, but he is certainly right that they are still poorly documented.

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Gordon Apple
Wow! That¹s quite an indictment of one of Apple, Inc¹s supposed developer tools. You¹d think that with $190B cash, they could fix this. One of the problems I ran into is that I couldn¹t find the indexing tool without going back to old versions. When I tried to use it, it choked, spewing a litany

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Kirk
so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Cocoa-dev digest... Today's Topics: 1. NSWorkspace issue (Varun Chandramohan) 2. Re: NSWorkspace issue (Ken Thomases) 3. Re: How to convert a UTF-8 byte offset into an NSString characteroffset? (Uli Kusterer) 4. Re: Help

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Todd Heberlein
On May 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know, the only comprehensive explanation of the new post-Snow Leopard version of Help Books is Chapter 11 of my book, Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X, Second Edition (Peachpit Press 2010). I used Cheeseman’s

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Marco S Hyman
The HTML in the app and on the website is slightly different, I use PHP to generate the HTML. A more modern approach would probably be to use a static site generator like Jekyll, which would allow you to use templates, write in Markdown, etc. You can use Markdown with PHP:

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Zavatone
On May 7, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Todd Heberlein wrote: On May 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know, the only comprehensive explanation of the new post-Snow Leopard version of Help Books is Chapter 11 of my book, Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X, Second

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread koko
On May 7, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Kirk kirkkere...@gmail.com wrote: I further note that Apple's own iWork apps use online help pages that open in Safari. We use HTML and open Safari when user selects help. Great for our cross platform products. -koko

Re: Help with Help

2014-05-07 Thread Cosmo
As somebody who did a lot of development work on early versions of Simple Help Editor, I’d like to point out a misstatement. It does not require one to write their own HTML. It does a quite capable job of translating styled text into HTML, but does offer the ability to handle custom HTML for

Re: Help with Help

2014-04-30 Thread 2551
On 30 Apr 2014, at 00:52, Gordon Apple g...@ed4u.com wrote: We would like to get a recommendation on the best way to generate a help system for a fairly complex application. You might also try techwrl-list, they're the experts on help systems:

Re: Help with Help

2014-04-29 Thread Gary L. Wade
It's best to use Apple's help. However, you may want to consider the case where your app supports a localization that Apple's Help app doesn't and give the user the option of opening your help pages in the user's web browser. In one app some time back, the help would show English while the user

Re: Help with Help (AHLookupAnchor)

2009-07-01 Thread Matt Neuburg
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:02:16 +1000, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com said: Hi all, I'm trying to link help buttons in my app to topics in my help book. I have a simple scheme where the (hidden) title of the button contains the anchor and I pass it to AHLookupAnchor. The help window opens as