Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-09 Thread Chris Dunford
Many find the new UI changes hard to learn and unnecessary. Sue wasn't talking about the UI. She was talking about the need to buy new software whenever MS changes its mind, and that's what I was responding to. There could have been changes made that don't stop quite as many programs from

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
You do realize that you don't have to buy a dedicated NAS, but can build one yourself out of any old computer that can run Linux. Same for a MySQL server. Yes, of course. That however, is not a mistake I plan on repeating. I have about 5 servers I built myself out of Intel OEM parts, built

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all, you want to protect against not just disk drive failure, but also computer failure. Of course, but that is a luxury we can't afford. When you are poor(er), you learn to tolerate risk at a much higher level

[CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external ...)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Fernando
For a small business, I would generally recommend using computers they would otherwise discard and set up two, replicated MySQL servers for a reliable database that won't stop if one computer or one disk drive fails. You could do the same thing with two older computers that still work

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
That is the point that most people are dealing with today, and that Tom keeps emphasizing. If the likelihood of a computer failure is close to the likelihood of a disk drive failure, how do you minimize the risk? That's the thing. In my experience, the system will fail many, many times less

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The best scheme for backups I have heard of is something that I have heard with any type of document you want to archive, Multiple copies in multiple places. The more copies and the more places you keep those copies the better off you are. With the costs of HD's it is so much easier to

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external ...)

2008-09-09 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Any pointers/URLs for how-to documents would be much appreciated. Here you go: MySQL replication: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication.html http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_database_replication

[CGUYS] Hard Drive Failure?

2008-09-09 Thread Richard P.
This is a followup from my earlier post (see below). The computer has crashed again with the exact same error since then and it has been suggested that either the hard drive or controller might be the problem. The new diagnostic info is that immediately before failure, a high pitched whistle or

Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading Mac Hard Drives

2008-09-09 Thread David
Thanks for your help. Between this and the other responses, I should be able to get this done with only a minimum of teeth gnashing. David --- On Sun, 9/7/08, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading Mac Hard Drives To:

Re: [CGUYS] AV Technology Refresh Refresher

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
My daughter and her husband have a satellite system right now and have problems that are being blamed on voltage in the house. We will see. Plun in a UPS and eliminate that red herring. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Hard Drive Failure?

2008-09-09 Thread rlsimon
I you have quite a bit to back up, do not dispair. I had that problem. It was a hard disk failure. I bought an external usb-ide cable. I put the hard disk in a sealed ziplock bag with all the air drawn out. I froze the hard disk in the freezer. I took it out, put it on the cable, and quickly

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread b_s-wilk
This illustrates a very fundamental difference in culture between the 2 platforms: choice vs. dictates. I'll take choice every time. Jeff has been thoroughly re-educated. Microsoft is double-plus good! Maybe Jeff got excited by the kinky new M$ ads.

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread mike
ugh..don't say kinky in reference to bill gates. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:03 PM, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This illustrates a very fundamental difference in culture between the 2 platforms: choice vs. dictates. I'll take choice every time. Jeff has been thoroughly re-educated.

Re: [CGUYS] Hard Drive Failure?

2008-09-09 Thread Ellen Harris
New Hard Drive, reinstall operating system. Put the old hard drive in the refrigerator, and when the new HDD is up and running, re-install it as a slave to see if you can retrieve the data from it (if there is data that you want to retrieve). Ellen H. Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
Maybe Jeff got excited by the kinky new M$ ads. Can you believe there is a link to the video on the home page. What is wrong with these people? Even I'm embarassed for them. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Hard Drive Failure?

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
The new diagnostic info is that immediately before failure, a high pitched whistle or scream was heard coming from the hard drive. I have had drives do that and then continue to work fine for years. Drives are funny beasts and hard to predict. Since drives are cheap, it might be worth it for

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
The best scheme for backups I have heard of is something that I have heard with any type of document you want to archive, Multiple copies in multiple places. The more copies and the more places you keep those copies the better off you are. The only problem with that is finding the newest

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's the thing. In my experience, the system will fail many, many times less often than will a hard drive. All Tom has are throertetical numbers from drive mfrs to back up his claim. My real world experience shows a very different result. And you minimize the risk with backups, at least at

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
Small businesses are better served by off loading risk among multiple computers, not relying on just one computer with a RAID controller. Thank you! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread mike
Ok instead of talking down to everyone as you tend to do, tell us at long last where you get your drives then? On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No so. That is why I said to stop buying your drives from Toys R Us.

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
I'm seeing power supply, motherboard, and memory failures at about the same rate as I'm seeing drive failures. I would suggest, then, that you stop buying your hardware from Toys R Us. At least upgrade to FAO Schwartz. Again, you are working with out of date ideas. Hardware costs are way

[CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-09 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for all the helpful tips. I now have the computer up and running, but a different problem has emerged. The on-board Ethernet connection doesn't work. It was working fine the last time the computer was running. As a work-a-round, I've put in a wireless PCI board to get the needed updates and

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
Too funny. Now you know why the big boys won't let you play with them. I don't need the ego boost. My job is not to waste money. You would have me spend $10,000 to serve a 5-person office? That would be an example of bad judgement. That $69 server was bought on a lark, with the expectation

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external drive

2008-09-09 Thread John J Settle
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Piwowar wrote: I'm running one server here using s $69 linux-based appliance and 2 $100 drives and it is positively a joy. Tom, What

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-09 Thread gerald
i should recommend that you congure up michelson and morley, as the defined the non existance of ether. At 05:59 PM 9/9/2008, you wrote: Thanks for all the helpful tips. I now have the computer up and running, but a different problem has emerged. The on-board Ethernet connection doesn't work. It

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
Not being argumentative ;) but I didn't post articles from mac specific sites on purpose...ars is a apple site? What about canalys? I know, I wouldn't suggest otherwise. But, the site that Ars linked to with the story on the canalys figures was a Mac site. I poked around a little and

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
What is the $69.00 Linux appliance you are using? I'd like to get one! Cisco Linksys NSLU2, which was recently discontinued. Amazon is still selling them for $44. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread mike
I realize you love to call people names. Yes, we all know you are superior. I bow down to your all knowing all seeing knowlege. I'm sorry I'm so thick, too stupid to understand even though you deign to use such simple language. It must be a horror having to deal with such poor jesters in your

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-09 Thread Fred Holmes
Ethernet to USB adapters abound and work well. I have used one with no problems. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=184804Sku=B20-5096SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASEcm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf%20mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq This is one I Googled. It's not the one I have, but I

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
You would have me spend $10,000 to serve a 5-person office? That would be an example of bad judgement. No, that would be stupid, but I also wouldn't advise someone to get a SOHO device for a 250 person network. Talk about bad judgment. I would look at hosted solutions for a 5 person office

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
What is wrong with these people? Even I'm embarassed for them. O-h-h-h-h-h, that's right, if it's not smarmy and smug and taking cheap shots, then it Just. Isn't. Funny. I thought it was rather amusing. I'm looking forward to the next one.

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-09 Thread Larry Sacks
Sorry to have missed some of the more fun stuff in between then and now, but a vacation on the coast beckoned. Any recommendations on drive manufacturers? Maxtor used to be one of my favorites until they got bought out by Seagate (which was one of my least favorites based on a series of

[CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread mike
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/ Mike

[CGUYS] large hadron collider

2008-09-09 Thread mike
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/ Mike resent

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I understand that the dangerous stuff where we could be swallowed in a black hole doesn't start for a few months. Brings to mind the bets they took at Los Alamos about whether the first a-bomb in Alamogordo would set fire to the atmosphere. And only slightly more media coverage of this one -

Re: [CGUYS] large hadron collider

2008-09-09 Thread Chris Dunford
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I'm not worried. My Maytag range has a handy feature that I will use if necessary: http://justweirdstuff.blogspot.com/2008/08/only-maytag-has-this.html I'm not sure if I can

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
You asked this question a week ago. And the week before that...and the week before that...Come to think about it, the weeks have all seemed very similar. Am I the only one who remembers this? -Original Message- So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Eric S. Sande
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? My brother the astrophysicist and my

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-09 Thread rlsimon
Uninstall it from network connections first; then uninstall it from the device manager (the actual ethernet in network adapters listing); then reboot and let windows tell you it has found new hardware and install it and you shud be gud2go... -Original Message- From: Richard P.

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
Big boys look at the complete picture and recommend a workable solution with budgets and resources in mind, rather than fake it and condescend to those not implementing the latest thing you read about in magazine. You really are badly wedged into '90s tech. Did you read any of the references

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
I thought it was rather amusing. I'm looking forward to the next one. Totally besotted by Microsoft? No, there was nothing funny about it. It was kinky and weird. Everyone is scratching their heads about it, except for Gates who is scratching his butt. It was the Zune of broadcast

[CGUYS] Chrome snatches share from IE

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasictax onomyName=operating_systemsarticleId=9114339taxonomyId=89intsrc=kc_top Sep 9, 2008 ... Internet Explorer users abandoned the browser last week to try out Google new Chrome, a Web metrics vendor said... They report that

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 05:04 PM 9/9/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-09 Thread Richard P.
The only thing I found with a yellow question mark were Other Devices which listed 5 items: Video controller SM Bus Controller Other PCI Bridge Device PCI Device PCI Simple Communications Controller I uninstalled them all and tried to reinstall them when the computer found them upon reboot, but

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external ...)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Fernando
MySQL replication: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication.html Thanks for that. (Just for completeness if anyone searches the archives, I've found the corresponding postgresql docs. http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Replication,_Clustering,_and_Connection_Pooling and I'm trying to

Re: [CGUYS] large hadron collider

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Miles
I'd love to be the person who throws the switch on this sucker. Here, pull my finger. Jeff M On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:14 PM, mike wrote: So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my