Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
For that the vendors have a new trick to get you to part with your money. Get ready for them to tell you that multiple identical cores are no good. Next step is to include cores that are optimized for specific tasks. So don't spend too much on your magical multis. Tom's the guy outside of

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Every time you add a core the speed of processing can increase by no more than the speed of the added core. So a dual core can't be more than 200% faster than a single core. Claiming more than that can only be magical thinking. I claimed no such thing other than much faster. I didn't think I

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
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Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
-Original Message- I think they are bullshitting you. I have been working with multi-processor and multi-core computers for years and commonly switch among them throughout the day. The only benefit I have ever seen occurs when one processor pegs its processor and the 2nd CPU starts to

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Richard P.
Is there a way to monitor the separate CPU's? Richard P. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been working with multi-processor and multi-core computers for years and commonly switch among them throughout the day. The only benefit I have ever seen

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
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Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
This is SOP in the history of software development: the software grows to take advantage of the excess capacity of the hardware... Sometimes, eventually it does. Sometimes it doesn't. Programming for multi-processors or multi-cores can be very tricky. Some obvious things are easy to do -- like

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Is there a way to monitor the separate CPU's? In Windows, you just use the Task Manager. For Vista, there are a number of system monitoring widgets for the sidebar that will do the same. Just to reiterate (this is not directed at you Richard), there many reasons to buy a multi-core CPU for an

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Again, I never claimed it was a common size encountered. And some of our graphics are much larger than 24 x 36. Graphics larger than 24 x 36 are typically viewed from a distance and created with ink jets using stochastic screens. Both of these call for much lower dpi. Instead of 300 dpi, the

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
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Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
I will wager on hard drive rotational velocity and disk cache size. The difference in performance between a 4200 RPM and a 5400 RPM system, or 5400 to 7200 RPM system, is significant. Most older drives have a 2 MB cache. I'm using a circa 2001 Dell Latitude C600 P3-750 laptop (512 MB RAM

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Graphics larger than 24 x 36 are typically viewed from a distance and created with ink jets using stochastic screens. Both of these call for much lower dpi. Instead of 300 dpi, the resolution is typically around 30 dpi. So file sizes are much smaller. Nope. You can walk right up to ours and

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
The last go-around we had multi-processors for a few years and the software never caught up. Instead the reason for multi-processors evaporated and they went away. So anyone who was trying to solve the difficult problems of coding for them was wasting their time. I would argue that the

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Nope. You can walk right up to ours and they aren't 30 dpi. Well that proves my point. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
How come my IBM ThinkpadX31 PM1.4 2gb ram (but the same was true before I upgraded from 1gb ram) with exactly the same stuff running (except for lots of ibm stuff extra) runs and performs sooo much better than my Dell PIV2(w/intel speed boost) 1gb ram (max it will take) running the same but none

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Related news: http://enews.penton.com/enews/windowsitpro/wininfodaily/2008_november_17_111708/display --Intel Ships Next-Gen Core i7 Microprocessor by Paul Thurrott Microprocessor giant Intel delivered its next-generation Core i7 chips to customers today. The i7 represents Intel's biggest

[CGUYS] Not as OT: Working with video in iMovie

2008-11-18 Thread David Turk
Most of the video I've worked with hasn't been longer than 10 minutes, it could take several hours for that. I'm working with hour-long video now, I am amazed at how long it's taking. After capturing the video, it took 2 ½ hours for iMovie to Letterbox it, it's taken 3 hours this morning

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
I just got comcast internet snail plan (768up) which is ok for me having had dialup (56k but really around 23-28k at best) for years...comcast offers MacAfee suite which installs easily ...but the cost in speed and footprint on the resources is very high which makes my pIV2-1gb-winXPhomeSP3

Re: [CGUYS] Not as OT: Working with video in iMovie

2008-11-18 Thread Tony B
Of course, it's the letterboxing that's taking all the time. Is there some *good* reason to do this? Please don't answer we want to fool the viewers into thinking it's HD because that's not a *good* reason. Although a straight encode to mpg2 for DVD shouldn't take that long either. Ten minutes of

Re: [CGUYS] Not as OT: Working with video in iMovie

2008-11-18 Thread David Turk
The area I'm shooting in is rather tight, I'm trying to maximize the horizontal space. The camera I have is great for zooming, but not so good for wide angle (it's a Canon ZR900). I can take a look at my preferences, see if there's something else I'm doing that I don't need to. I'll also

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread b_s-wilk
Rob Flickenger's Wireless Hacks book has been released as open source. Although it was released in 2003, much of what you need to know about wireless starts here, http://www.freeopenbook.com/wireless-hacks/. We made a cantenna out of a coffee can. The most difficult part was finding a lucent

Re: [CGUYS] Not as OT: Working with video in iMovie

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
The area I'm shooting in is rather tight, I'm trying to maximize the horizontal space. The camera I have is great for zooming, but not so good for wide angle (it's a Canon ZR900). It is well known that letterboxing takes forever. You probably should set iMovie's preferences to disable

Re: [CGUYS] home phone wires

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
I've got comcast cable slow but much better internet (sold 768up, getting 650-750up) and their free useless limited basic cableTV (mostly shopping, bulletinboard for churches, and junk) ...waddaya want4free?? ...I can get local fone for $24.95/mo with cw/id/3way/answeringmachine incl. or

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Multi-core systems are now the norm and have a negligible price hit. Even quad-core systems are only about $100 more than dual-core systems. Paying an extra $100 for a $300 computer is significant in relative terms. In absolute terms $100 will buy a lot of beer. Given the choice of beer or

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread db
I second both of those concepts ... db Jeff Wright wrote: I just got comcast internet snail plan (768up) which is ok for me having had dialup (56k but really around 23-28k at best) for years...comcast offers MacAfee suite which installs easily ...but the cost in speed and footprint on the

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Larry Sacks
Multi-core systems are now the norm and have a negligible price hit. Even quad-core systems are only about $100 more than dual-core systems. Paying an extra $100 for a $300 computer is significant in relative terms. In absolute terms $100 will buy a lot of beer. Given the choice of beer or

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
I upgraded recently to a Maxtor DiamondMax20 which should perform better than the prior seagateST3120026A 7200 8mbCache but rated slower (95)... Maxtor specs: Features Storage Capacity160GB Data Transfer Rate 100MBps Maximum External

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
Laptop IBM x31 upgraded a while ago to: WD WD1200VE 120gb drive 5400rpm 8mb cache ...chose this over 7200 because of possibility of excessive heat... -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: Re: better I will wager

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
Clearing the registry ain't difficult ...there are a few registry fixers which I have not noticed to be helpful ...how does one clear the prefetch? I sent the drive stuff separately to the list and jeff...you will see them there ...summary: desktop has 160gb/7200/8mb and laptop has 120gb/5400/8mb

Re: [CGUYS] home phone wires

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
Comcast offers fone over cable for $24.95/mo local only or $34.95(x6mo,then $39.95) unlim long distance ...isn't that VOIP? I have the low end cable internet (sold 768up) already and free basic tv...or is there something better as far as voip?? -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar

Re: [CGUYS] home phone wires

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Comcast offers fone over cable for $24.95/mo local only or $34.95(x6mo,then $39.95) unlim long distance ...isn't that VOIP? I have the low end cable internet (sold 768up) already and free basic tv...or is there something better as far as voip?? That's VOIP. Expensive VOIP, but VOIP nevertheless.

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
And if you decide beer is more useful (and I could understand why), would you say Old Dominion beer be more useful than say Bud? Old Dominion Lager. Definitely. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] home phone wires

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's the cheapest solution but that leaves me with no wires which means possible outage on a bad day... A box of MREs and an AK-47 should take care of that for you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
how does one clear the prefetch? Drag the folder contents into the trash. It can do wonders. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
Isn't AVG the one in the news that locked up lotsa peoples boxes recently with an online upgrade that they had2 do sommersaults to fix?? http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=212001916 I have been using Avast and am quite happy so far...

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread db
No need to change then. All security software has its broken upgrades ... pros delay upgrades so as to avoid this inherent bleeding edge... db RLeeSimon wrote: Isn't AVG the one in the news that locked up lotsa peoples boxes recently with an online upgrade that they had2 do sommersaults to

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Just to reiterate (this is not directed at you Richard), there many reasons to buy a multi-core CPU for an ever-growing number of mainstream environments and scenarios where you will actually benefit from it, if not today then soon, and only one reason to buy a single-core CPU: price. Even that

Re: [CGUYS] xm radio

2008-11-18 Thread Brian Jones
Your XM radio is passive... it receives, but does not transmit. When you registered for service, you gave the serial number of your receiver to XM. XM sends a message to your XM to decode only the programs to which you subscribe. (all XM radio's receive the message, but only yours will react

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Brian Jones
There are Sooo many things that can do that and a large one (as mentioned) is the hard drive. You mentioned that these machines have the same software... not likely, since they are from 2 different companies. Check the task manager and see what system programs are loaded. Motherboard design

Re: [CGUYS] home phone wires

2008-11-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Go with an AR-15 locally made and uses American ammo! :-) Stewart At 01:53 PM 11/18/2008, you wrote: That's the cheapest solution but that leaves me with no wires which means possible outage on a bad day... A box of MREs and an AK-47 should take care of that for you.

[CGUYS] avg

2008-11-18 Thread gerald
i had 7.5 on the last computer. now all i can find is 8.0. i have heard that 8.0 comes with a lot of baggage. can the baggage be avoided. have vista OS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Drabick
Larry, Vicky's first solution is where I would start. Just make sure the distance from building to garage is less than 330feet. Its hard wired so there is less chance of interference. Just make sure the cable is protected so it wont get sliced. You can run a test cable on the ground as

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread db
Technically you may be running afoul of electrical grounding building code when you do this if you are using a cable to connect electrically powered devices that are being powered from different breaker boxes/ grounds. Something to look into perhaps... db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
And if you decide beer is more useful (and I could understand why), would you say Old Dominion beer be more useful than say Bud? Old Dominion Lager. Definitely. I so had you pegged as a Coors Light man. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
1000' of Cat 5e cable at HomeDepot for $60. and the Job is done in an afternoon. That HomeDepot wire is for running indoors and is not even fire-rated for running in walls or overhead. If you run it underground, you can't bury it inless you run it in a conduit. That will cost more than the

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I agree with that solution and would try it first time out. (Above ground to make sure it works, then bury cable. If you want to make sure it is safe, use a plastic water pipe to shield it.) When I got to my present church, I tried wireless to see if I could get a signal to my office which

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Paying an extra $100 for a $300 computer is significant in relative terms. In absolute terms $100 will buy a lot of beer. Given the choice of beer or cores I may very well go with the beer. At least the beer will make me feel better about owning a PeeCee. Yes, but anyone looking to pay $300

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Technically you may be running afoul of electrical grounding building code when you do this if you are using a cable to connect electrically powered devices that are being powered from different breaker boxes/ grounds. So you may need to add isolators. What do those cost?

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
I so had you pegged as a Coors Light man. Blurghh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread RLeeSimon
Actually, it is broken inasmuch as I can't get it to scan an individual file or folder using the windows explorer shell command but I am waiting for a reply from their excellent tech support vie email. -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November

Re: [CGUYS] Network wiring

2008-11-18 Thread db
No, my understanding is that the ground code is not directed at lightning strikes but at preventing your data cable from becoming the functional internal ground loop instantly carrying a LOT of current if one of the two normal ground paths of the separate power/ground sources become disabled

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Leinenkugels? Stewart At 05:32 PM 11/18/2008, you wrote: I so had you pegged as a Coors Light man. Blurghh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yes, but anyone looking to pay $300 for a computer isn't looking for a 4-way system. Another $100 on a $900 system isn't so bad. Quad-core systems should be norm within the next 1-2 years and that price premium will disappear. You'll have to find another excuse to make a beer run. If I were

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Leinenkugels? SABMiller PLC? Probably not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is actually very good still brewed at the home place. Used to live up there. It is an acquired taste. Buy it at SAM's Stewart At 06:26 PM 11/18/2008, you wrote: Leinenkugels? SABMiller PLC? Probably not. * **

Re: [CGUYS] yes or no to mcafee

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Actually, it is broken inasmuch as I can't get it to scan an individual file or folder using the windows explorer shell command but I am waiting for a reply from their excellent tech support vie email. Gmail is getting particularly frustrating as it will sometimes send replies to the actual

Re: [CGUYS] avg

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
i had 7.5 on the last computer. now all i can find is 8.0. i have heard that 8.0 comes with a lot of baggage. can the baggage be avoided. have vista OS. I use 8.0 on Vista and have no trouble. Not sure what the baggage is supposed to be, but no bellboy has shown up to get it.

Re: [CGUYS] quad core graphics?

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
If I were going to spend that much on a computer I would spend it on a Mac. Well, at least *you* will admit that Macs cost more than PCs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

[CGUYS] gmail oddity

2008-11-18 Thread Tony B
That's interesting. Earlier this week a cguys thread went off-list and I assumed she had done that on purpose, though I couldn't figure out why. Now I'm wondering. But it couldn't have been iGoogle here, as I use permatab in Firefox to keep Gmail open, and only visit iGoogle infrequently as it's

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
how does one clear the prefetch? Drag the folder contents into the trash. It can do wonders. Your advice is to empty the folder that Windows uses to boot and load apps more quickly? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx The legendary Mark Russinovich explains the prefetch:

[CGUYS] Favorite online workspace?

2008-11-18 Thread db
Google Docs and MS's entry can't display active URL links, images nor has any white space capability. I've been looking at Thinkature: http://thinkature.com/ Anybody have another other recommendations... db * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
I don't pay too much attention to synthetic benchmarks, as they can be fudged by tests that are biased to one variable or another or optimized for a particular brand. I much prefer to see real world testing at hardware sites, but most any modern hard drive will give you decent performance. What I

Re: [CGUYS] better

2008-11-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
...it is a bad idea to periodically clean out that folder as some tech sites suggest. For one thing, XP will just re-create that data anyways; secondly, it trims the files anyways if there's ever more than 128 of them so that it doesn't needlessly consume space. So not only is deleting the

[CGUYS] Thanks to gamers, the desktop supercomputer arrives

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
http://tinyurl.com/5d924a Nvidia today unveiled a workstation it calls the Tesla Personal Supercomputer at the Supercomputing 08 show here. The Tesla sports 960 cores, delivers almost 4 teraflops of performance and costs less than $9,995. It achieves that speed and price by using four graphics

[CGUYS] ZoneAlarm Pro 24-Hour Giveaway

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Check Point Software Technologies is celebrating its 15th anniversary today by giving away free copies of its vaunted firewall software ZoneAlarm Pro 2009. The promotion runs for 24 hours, from 6 a.m. PST Tuesday, November 18 to 6 a.m. Wednesday, November 19.

Re: [CGUYS] avg

2008-11-18 Thread Richard P.
No baggage here either with 8.0. My only issue is it slows the compuer down when scanning so I let it scan when I'm not using the computer. FYI, 7.5 is no longer supported. This from AVG forum: AVG 7.5 Free - Support ends 31/08/2008 Posted by: michaelhd - AVG Team (IP Logged) Date: July 9, 2008

Re: [CGUYS] Thanks to gamers, the desktop supercomputer arrives

2008-11-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Are we performing some extra special game function for this computer? I cannot see why anyone would want that. Reminds me of the ones that used to be built at Cray Research in the early 90's. They were all multiple processor computers, super cooled. (parallel I think) Stewart At 08:42

[CGUYS] Any recommendations about PowerLine Ethernet?

2008-11-18 Thread Chris Mollner
I am considering using PowerLine Ethernet Adapters to connect my TV and Blu-ray player to my home network so they can access the Internet for updates. The TV and Blu-Ray player are in the basement. I have an Airport Base Station on the second floor connected to my cable modem. It appears

Re: [CGUYS] ZoneAlarm Pro 24-Hour Giveaway

2008-11-18 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for the heads up. Richard P. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check Point Software Technologies is celebrating its 15th anniversary today by giving away free copies of its vaunted firewall software ZoneAlarm Pro 2009. The promotion runs for 24

[CGUYS] news fyi: Microsoft to offer free consumer security suite

2008-11-18 Thread Andy Gallant
Just spotted this via Google News (one of several links): from http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-10101582-12.html Microsoft on Tuesday said it is changing its strategy for offering PC antivirus software, with plans to discontinue its subscription-based consumer security suite and instead