Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Jordan
Tom Piwowar wrote: The modem either belongs to or is sold to you by the internet service provider. It will be what their system requires and you really don't want to fool with their requirements. Use whatever they think works best. And you don't mess with any of the settings in their box. All

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
As I mentioned before, I use a Motorola Surfboard(mine is an SB5100) instead of Comcasts crappy modems. I got 2 of their dud rentals in a row one year and then bought my own. Several times their techs have reacted with relief when I told them my modem was a Surfboard. Well there is an

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread rlsimon
They post an approved list: http://media2.comcast.net/anon.comcastonline2/support/help/misc/cmclist1.htm That does NOT mean all these are good. I read and googled until my eyes hurt ...I just purchased a Motorola SB5101 modem (on the approved list) and will get cable put in and then will see

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well there is an interesting question for discussion. Is it wise to decide that you are smarter than your telecom provider and replace their head end equipment with your own? That would be too expensive. The head end is on the cable company's side. If I had a DSL gateway or any other edge

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread mike
Well I thought I knew what you were talking about...till you said it was too expensive, then I wasn't sure since they aren't that expensive. But I suppose expensive is relative. I know the motorola's I used go for about 50 bux, sometimes less with MIR. Mike On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:49 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Eric S. Sande wrote: What would be too expensive? I've always bought my own cable modems...for a relatively small price I might add. I'm being overly presise about terminology today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_headend In telecom (I don't actually

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
In telecom (I don't actually know what cable people call it) the modem, router, gateway, whatever are usually termed as a class edge devices, since they reside on the edge of the network. Yes I used the wrong word. Should I have said tail end.

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well I thought I knew what you were talking about...till you said it was too expensive, then I wasn't sure since they aren't that expensive. But I suppose expensive is relative. I know the motorola's I used go for about 50 bux, sometimes less with MIR. Well terminology aside, since the box in

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread mike
Yes it's plenty wise if you get a good deal/better product. No it's not cruising for anything except perhaps a few bucks or better speed. No in my experience with Cox, it didn't make one whit of difference that I bought my own modem. The provider has certain standards or lack of, that they wish

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Most (not all) Cable modem folks use the MAC number on the modem for turning you on and off. If I replace my modem, (wether with my own of swap out at local office) I need to call the folks at Charter and give them the mac number which they then record and use it for authenticating my

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
Aren't (or weren't) these edge devices also called CPE (customer premises equipment)? Sometimes Customer Provided Equipment. At the time of the Bell System breakup, all of the edge devices belonged to the Bell System. As time wore on and the equipment market became competitive we went through

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The modem hooked up to your cable connection and turned on by your cable company will get you started. But again you will only be able to get one PC hooked up to it initially. I for one am an advocate against all in one modems/routers etc. Because if the modem fails you lost the whole

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I do see some who advocate NOT getting a combo gateway/router in one box type unit but a separate modem and router something to do with the ability to do something on the other side of the wan The modem either belongs to or is sold to you by the internet service provider. It will be what their

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-28 Thread rlsimon
ok...I have a usb2 2.0 b/g wireless adapter for my desktop (Xterasys XN-2133G) and my laptop has an internal a/b/g wifi (IBM x31) ...so if I have cable internet service, why do I need a router at all just to do fileshare and internet share from my laptop around the house to the desktop ...can't I

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-28 Thread rlsimon
as for my Xterasys XN-2133G 802.11g/b Wireless Adapter, the only detraction is it doesn't have WPA, only has WEP ...but I could start with that and look into an upgrade ...this b/g adapter would let me establish an ad-hoc network with my a/b/g notebook to get going ...

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-28 Thread Fred Holmes
Does your cable modem include a router? If not you need a router to attach two computers to one IP address. The modem itself only supplies one IP address to the WAN (Wide Area Network, aka Internet). You really want to have a router on broadband with only one computer, in order to take

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The router is the item that assigns the different IP addresses to each user using DHCP. Normally modems cannot do this. If you want to use more than one computer with the modem you must use a router to route each to the modem. You do not have to file share at all. Matter of fact you must

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-26 Thread Jordan
I had updated the Netgears a couple times and would see improvements in some ways. When I hooked up the D-Link to my Komcast it worked great. I updated the firmware on it right away with no problem. It seems to me that most makers of updatable devices always ship with the original software

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-26 Thread rlsimon
Hi...help me out with this MIMO thing ...which ones do I need to get for that? I have been looking at netgear CG814M and linksys wcg200 because they are gateway/router/wireless all in one and comcast says they work with their stuff but I don't see any MIMO mentioned... -Original Message-

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-26 Thread rlsimon
http://media2.comcast.net/anon.comcastonline2/support/help/misc/cmclist1.htm #n shows approved list ...what else? -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: what router? i did not know komkast had modem/routers. if

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-26 Thread rlsimon
Furthermore, I have been googling around and find there is a not our problem round robin where netgear says it's comcast's problem and vice versa ...further, there are over 100 posts for the linksys item largely negative ...of course, people don't tend to post positives as much, do they? ...I just

[CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread rlsimon
I've had ATT dialup since it was acquired from IBM ...a long time. It's too slow and I'm fed up. No FIOS here during my natural life per verizon. No DSL either as we're in the stix and too far from the switch. Comcast offering $24.95/mo for 768mbps speed (like DSL) cheep. Offering TV for

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
N will give you the best coverage. It may be overkill on speed but it is backward compatible. Check out CNET and newegg for pricing (But also read the customer reviews for a critical eye on what works and what does not) I have a Belkin pre-N MIMO and the coverage is excellent, and it works

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread gerald
i did not know komkast had modem/routers. if you get one, make certain it is komkastick approved. i bought one a few years that was not approved. since people are very unhappy with comcast and switching to fios(we did it for cost -$50 a month), there should be tons of modems on ebay. N

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Linksys or Netgear ...which is better? Linksys is owned by Cisco. Netgear works fine too. D-Link is also fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
Linksys or Netgear ...which is better? Do I need n ? What else? I prefer Netgear over Linksys, but either will be fine. You can generally find good refurbed Netgear equipment on eBay. I've had very good results with Justdeals on eBay, who typically has a good supply of refurbed Netgear

Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
I used to use Linksys or Netgear but bought a couple of dLinks recently and was favorably impressed. Cheaper and easier to setup. I carried an old D-Link hub to Cleveland in the winter and it worked to spec. :-) * **