Cory Meisch wrote:
gaim-0.72-2mdk
Cory Meisch
Thursday Nov 13 2003 01:10:19 PM PST
2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk
QOTD: Lawful Dungeon Master -- and
Installed perl-5.8.2-1mdk perl-base-5.8.2-1mdk which broke rpmdrake,
urpmi, Mandrake Control Center, etc . . .
Error was that all mandrake perl scripts could not locate MDK/Common.pm
Solution was to re-install perl-5.8.1-1mdk perl-base-5.8.1-1mdk
--
Rgds,
Steve
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 22:27 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
Fantastic - Adding that now
On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 06:54:02PM +0100, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
Sorry to intrude on this convbut I would use Exim if it was available
as a package - upto now I have to compile if from source and install
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 16:02 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
Hi Vincent.
Sorry to intrude on this convbut I would use Exim if it was available as a
package - upto now I have to compile if from source and install it
On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 12:26:16PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
can you
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 17:31, atrius wrote:
[bgmilne] wrote:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3567
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-23-09 18:17 ---
Fred, use mozilla for everything for one full day, and you must see it at least
once.
I lose the
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 19:14, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] oden]$ rpm -K /RPMS/OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1-0.rc4.2mdk.i586.rpm
/RPMS/OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1-0.rc4.2mdk.i586.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG
NOT OK
I just upgraded no problem:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -Uvh
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:46, Mark Belanger wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:58:05 +0100
Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Victor Roetman wrote:
The problem is that if every Chinese user (or any other feature) wait
for the last RC to begin to test if it works, it does not give a lot
please remove the virus from your system
stephen
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:21 AM
Subject: [Cooker] Thank you!
Please see the attached file for details.
OpenAFS would be nice for big buisness.
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 19:24, Austin wrote:
Yeah, I know it's a bit early to be on this subject, but
a) we're already discussing urpmi and nvidia future
b) we can haggle over these ideas while the MDK staff takes a well deserved
mini-holiday
Here's
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:18, Serge Plüss wrote:
Hi
I reported earlier that after the urpmi update on Monday December 30th mozilla
would fail to launch.
This had been a clean Cooker 9.1 install from early december and mozilla and
drakconf had been working properly.
I also have the same
Quick fix:
declare -x GDK_USE_XFT=0
Allows applications to start !
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:56, Stephen Pickering wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:18, Serge Plüss wrote:
Hi
I reported earlier that after the urpmi update on Monday December 30th mozilla
would fail to launch
[Bug 598] wrote:
Hi guys,
I have someone at mandrakeexpeert, paid incident, that has a problem with a
Radeon 7500, the card does not work (locks up) if he uses hardware acceleration,
switching of hardware acceleration with Option NoAccell will make the system
work, I adviced him to get the
Stephen Pickering wrote:
[Bug 598] wrote:
Hi guys,
I have someone at mandrakeexpeert, paid incident, that has a problem
with a
Radeon 7500, the card does not work (locks up) if he uses hardware
acceleration,
switching of hardware acceleration with Option NoAccell will make
the system
work
Brian J. Murrell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:14:43PM +, Stephen Pickering wrote:
Brian J. Murrell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:48:38PM +, Stephen Pickering wrote:
I'd like rpmdrake urpmi to have an option to list updates that are
over say 'n'
days old, a command line
Ben Reser wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:13:13AM +0100, Jérôme Martin wrote:
Another possibility should be to view the key owner and let the possibility
to accept or reject all RPMs from this key.
I'm actually already working on a modification to this effect. The
necessary C code is
Brian J. Murrell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:48:38PM +, Stephen Pickering wrote:
I'd like rpmdrake urpmi to have an option to list updates that are
over say 'n'
days old, a command line switch for urpmi, eg:
urpmi --available_for 5
I've found that sometimes an rpm is released
Stephen Pickering wrote:
I have the same problem, I also use a 24x lite-on cd burner.
It worked fine with 8.2, but using 9.0 (kernel 2.4.19-16mdk) it seems
to take an age,
30minutes for a 20mb cd :-(
I have noticed that during burn the red light of the cd only comes of
for short pulses
rpmdrake should return to the original single installer / uninstaller with
options
to force install/remove only (for the unexperienced).
And bring back the feature that showed which version is currently installed.
Lyall Pearce wrote:
To be quite honest, I am at a loss as to why
I have the same problem, I also use a 24x lite-on cd burner.
It worked fine with 8.2, but using 9.0 (kernel 2.4.19-16mdk) it seems to
take an age,
30minutes for a 20mb cd :-(
I have noticed that during burn the red light of the cd only comes of
for short pulses
then it goes green, so it's not
Hi,
Need some help updating over mandrake control center. When I add my
closest mirror, Paris, I have no issues downloading the
synthesis.hdlist*.cz files. The problem lies in when I go to download a
file from the synthesis.hdlist2.cz list. urpmi basically tels me it
cannot resolve the host. any
ustin Acton wrote:
We could stop a LOT of the complaining by adding one simple feature...
In the RPM installer, add an icon that opens the package remover; in the
remover, add an icon that opens the installer.
Better still revert to the old style installer and add switches to
enable restricted
Brad Chamberlin wrote:
I have grown to love the new RPMDrake, at first I was a little unsure, but
after using it for a while I think it has promise.
You can view the files of an rpm by right clicking on the information window
and selecting Maximum information
I agree it would probably be
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Linux Autrement [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
done folks at Mandrake. But why is it not shouted load and clear that
Mandrake since at least 8.2 can install straight onto a RAID?
Before 9.0, detecting current RAID was not supported so it was
not so good.
would come on for a few minutes and then shut off. Once I
installed rc3 I was able to use my mouse by using the older 2.4.18.
Thanks, Stephen Durham
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the beta 3 CD's pre-burned. My
system is having a hard time with the 700MB images. I checked cheapbytes
but they're only up to beta 2. Any help would be appreciated.
Stephen Anderson
specify how to access the CDROM and what the parameters
are, I'd really appreciate it.
Many Thanks
Stephen Woolerton
install
Oops kernel access of bad area, sig: 11
.
.
Is there any other information I can give you. Do you know why it failed?
In BootX I chose, all.gz for the kernel, 34000 for size of RAM Disk, and text for
kernel parameters
Thanks
Stephen
Stew Benedict wrote:
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Stephen
loading problem?
Much appreciated.
Stephen
.
For what it is worth, I've used YellowDogLinux up until now on a number
of Beige G3 machines with success. The Mandrake Distro is attractive,
firstly because of the security features, and secondly, because I'm
running it with Intel as well.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Stephen
I had this problem last night when installing 8.1 It may be fixed in cooker,
but just in case
When installing Mandrake on a mixed system, SCSI and IDE drives, and the
system is set to boot off the SCSI drives, LILO writes the boot device as
/dev/hdc. It should be /dev/sda.
The bios is set
, then OK that's fine. If not, I'm just trying to help make a
wonderful distro better:)
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Guillaume Cottenceau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] LILO and Boot Device
Thomas, Stephen W
My main concern for the next version of SNF is will it be streamlined? Will
it run on a 400MB or 500MB hard drive? Will all of the non-firewall stuff be
removed?
I've seen Firewalls that do more than the first SNF but the download ISO is
only 20MB and the hard drive requirment is 200MB.
I
Are there plans to streamline the SNF distribution in the future?
My boss just dopwnloaded a Linux Firewall called SmoothWall that has a lot
of the same features of SNF but is only a 20MB ISO. They took everything out
that wasn't needed by the firewall/proxy/vpn/etc.
I keep telling my boss to
at boot-time? It tries to do:
modprobe scsi_hostadapter
at boot-up and that command seg faults. Are they related?
Let me know if you want to see config files. It's an Adaptec 29160
(using the aic7xxx module).
thanks,
Stephen
Florin,
Where can we post suggestions for the next release? I posted in Mandrake
Forum but there is so many complaints in there it's hard to seperate
complaints from suggestions. Would this be a good place to discuss possible
features?
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Florin
Was this problem ever resolved? I have been experiencing the same thing
for quite a while. /dev/usbmouse and /dev/input/mouse0 don't exist on
bootup. Running harddrake fixes it (until I reboot). I'm using a
Microsoft IntelliEye with an Abit KT7-RAID MB.
thanks,
Stephen
On 16 Aug 2001 13:56
/ld.so.preload, listed libsafe, thought about deleting line, but
didn't
.
rebooted to 8.0 confirmed again that it built correctly
any ideas would be much appreaciated
stephen r parkinson
to replace:
ptr = strtok (hostname, .);
with
ptr = hostname;
fixes things. Is the current behavior appropriate? Should I take this
to the Pan mailing list? (also, I'd still like to know how to set up a
debug build if anyone knows)
--Stephen
On 27 Aug 2001 11:11:28 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen
Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
The pan newsreader segfaults immediately upon launch...
No problem here : what give you an strace ?
This is my first time debugging a gnome app, so I'm
The pan newsreader segfaults immediately upon launch. I've tried the
package in cooker as well as compiling it myself, with the same results.
Stephen
This is the final version that I downloaded the ISO about a week ago. When I
install it on the system I am doing a complete format of the drives so I can
make sure it will work for our clients.
Stephen W. Thomas
Network Engineer
Technical Software Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL
Will these automatically update if we use the update facility in the Web
interface?
Steve
On Friday 08 June 2001 04:20 am, you wrote:
hi,
We have made an update of 2 packages in the MandrakeSecurity
distribution.
please upgrade to:
naat-backend-0.5-5mdk.i586.rpm: Fix the directory
SNF
and see if maybe there is a change. Thank you for your help.
Stephen W. Thomas
Network Engineer
Technical Software Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Florin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
in the United States which is a very big internet
provider.
Stephen W. Thomas
Network Engineer
Technical Software Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Florin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re
Is anyone else having a problem with the WWW access failing? My system runs
fine for a couple of days at a time and then it just stops allowing access to
web pages. Telnet, FTP, and everything else seems to continue to work fine. I
can't even get to the Firewall configuration web.
Go here: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/business/890 and
get the information from the source Mandrake.
Stephen W. Thomas
Network Engineer
Technical Software Services
http://www.techsoft.com
-Original Message-
From: Art Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
I know it's too late to get it in this release but I had to mention it so
maybe it could be added in the next release.
Anyway, It would be nice to have a Plugins page in the Web Interface. This
page could be used to download Plugin addons for the Web manager as well as
be the link to them.
I'm having problems with Squid locking up my Web access after a couple of
days. I get the following errors in my event logs:
(squid): Too many queued redirector requests
squid[1611]: Squid Parent: child process 22690 exited with status 1
squid[1611]: Squid Parent: child process 23587 started
Does enyone know what I ahve to do to get StartCraft working through the
Firewall?
When I try to get on to Battle net it comes back with the error that it can't
process UDP packets through port 6112. I went into the firewall settings page
and opened up UDP port 6112 but it still isn't working.
Does the Firewall actually use drakxtools? I noticed it in the update list
when I checked what packages need to be updated. I know this is running off
the 7.2 release but I'd rather not download stuff I don't need. If drakxtools
isn't used then I'll just remove the package from the firewall.
Ooops, I did it again. I forgot to give you the specifics.
Anyway, I am running it on my home dial-up system. It is forwarding TCP port
80/www. I am running the original RC1 with all security updates. I am running
Squid and Snort on it. I have not added any other software. I haven't changed
I just reread your response. I hope you do not misunderstand me.
I have setup a web server on my network behind the firewall. This is the web
that I can not access.
I CAN access Mandrake Secerity's Web frontend for configuring the firewall
with no problems.
The problems I am having is
I noticed today that I didn't get any squid logs. After some research I found
that the logrotate cron job executes before the squid report cron job. These
are scheduled to run at 04:00 each day and the squid report cron job runs
after that. Somehow the log rotate cron job should be scheduled
I'm using a dynamic DNS service that needs to be updated when my modem
redials. I would usually call the script from /etc/ppp/ip-up.local however,
this script didn't exist and after I created it it's not being called by the
diald scripts. Where should I call my external script from that
Linus Selection
Bill Gates Selection
don't you have to get their permission to use their names in this
context ? :-)
I can see the first.
stephen
Thanks for your response. It's working now. And my apologies for the
multiple posts. That was an accident.
Stephen
On Monday 19 March 2001 16:55, you wrote:
Hello Stephen,
It is not just nedit. I cannot use the control key in any
application.
Monday, March 19, 2001, 2:29:15 PM, you
By the way, this was a problem with 7.2 as well.
-- Stephen
I can't use control-key and alt-key combinations in Nedit in cooker. For
example, Ctrl-S (to save) just inserts dc3 in the document. Control-keys
work everywhere else in KDE and they worked in Nedit under LM 7.2. Anyone
else have this problem?
thanks,
Stephen
I can't use control-key and alt-key combinations in Nedit in cooker. For
example, Ctrl-S (to save) just inserts dc3 in the document. Control-keys
work everywhere else in KDE and they worked in Nedit under LM 7.2. Anyone
else have this problem?
thanks,
Stephen
I can't use control-key and alt-key combinations in Nedit in cooker. For
example, Ctrl-S (to save) just inserts dc3 in the document. Control-keys
work everywhere else in KDE and they worked in Nedit under LM 7.2. Anyone
else have this problem?
thanks,
Stephen
I had a kernel panic during my first install. I was trying to install a
network cups printer. I put in the IP address of the printer but left the
port field blank.
The message said couldn't find the IP, and then there was a kernel panic.
Let me know if more info would be helpful.
-- Stephen
I got it working on my Cooker system. The --with-kde option goes on the
./configure line for qt-gui and you have to have the kde-devel rpm installed.
The only difference AFAIK is the docking behavior. But to me that is almost
vital for an ICQ client. Maybe if the user selects KDE during
The qt-gui will dock in KDE 2 if you do "configure --with-kde" when you
compile it. It worked quite well for me with Mandrake 7.2. My question is:
why isn't the licq rpm in the distribution set up this way?
On Friday 16 March 2001 09:59, you wrote:
Hello Con,
It runs the qt-gui by
?
- Jay
In the wise words of Stephen Thomas:
I like the ability to ssh in from the internal network. It allows me to
do things that the WEB interface doesn't.
1. Manage software that the web interface doesn't handle such as snort,
IDS. 2. View real time logging like "tail -f /v
I like the ability to ssh in from the internal network. It allows me to do
things that the WEB interface doesn't.
1. Manage software that the web interface doesn't handle such as snort, IDS.
2. View real time logging like "tail -f /var/log/messages" and other logs.
3. What if I want to add
trying cooker with nfs - problems
but what happened to the console with a command line prompt
is it available using nfs install ?
srp
"Please enter the directory containing the Linux-Mandrake Installation"
"Please enter the directory containing the
Linux-Mandrake (Install) Distribution"
srp
memo - use short dir name for cooker
trying nfs install of cooker, mirrored 05/01/01...
boots, trundles thro to NFS setup asking for server name - 192.168.0.2
Mandrake directory -
/home/stephen/downloads/mandrake/devel/cooker/Mandrake
it IS the Mandrake dir I want isn't it ?
showmount -e
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:28:20PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
"Charles R. Hurley" wrote:
Macmillan/Mandrake calls the box I brought: Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack
Deluxe. Again, how can I tell if this is a pre-release?
Look at contents of the i586/VERSION file on the first CD. The real
On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 08:09:39PM -0700, Doug Roberts wrote:
Hi, all.
I just tried to run a tcl script that worked fine under LM7.1, but now it
barfs with an error message about fconfugre being called with a bad argument
from the following line:
fconfigure $SRLFILE -blocking 0 -mode
On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 08:34:11PM -0500, Charles R. Hurley wrote:
To all,
I live in the US, and it seems rumor has it I brought a pre-release copy
of Mandrake 7.2 from Macmillan. Well I did buy a Macmillan copy, but can
i live in the UK, and would also like to know ?
The only
Does anyone have any info on this?
I have a long (greater than 3 minutes) stall when booting up.
It is between the green OK from the "finding module dependencies"
and the next step
which is something about checking the hard drives. It isn't doing a fsck
every time. I have re-installed several
I am familiar with creating new/updated CDs of RedHat and getting them
bootable/installable, from the how-to. Where do I find the FAQ for this
mailing list, and the how-to on creating cooker install CDs.
Thanks,
Steve
as well ??
Stephen R Parkinson
eted.
any idea or should i cc to expert ?
Stephen R Parkinson
you'll have the same problem. Graphical installers eat
p2-233 32mb 16mb voodoo 3 agp
just took longer - about 2.5hr, don't believe the time estimate :-)
Stephen R Parkinson
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 05:18:34PM +0930, Allen Bolderoff wrote:
How about:
rsync -av remote.mirror.site::/path/to/iso
/localpath/to/iso --partial --progress --stats
[stephen@zmemw16 stephen]$ rsync -av sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake-iso
receiving file list ... done
drwxr-xr-x8192
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:36:44AM +0100, stephen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 05:18:34PM +0930, Allen Bolderoff wrote:
/localpath/to/iso --partial --progress --stats
permission denied.
unexpected EOF in read_timeout
does this translate as busy, go away ??
translates as did
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 01:19:35PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, stephen wrote:
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:36:44AM +0100, stephen wrote:
...
btinternet in their infinite something, drop the line every 2 hrs
and it's dynamic ip, not a problem when i use download 4 x
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 05:18:34PM +0930, Allen Bolderoff wrote:
howabout
How about:
rsync -av remote.mirror.site::/path/to/iso
/localpath/to/iso --partial --progress --stats
[stephen@zmemw16 stephen]$ rsync -avv
sunsite.uio.no::/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/iso/Mandrake72-inst.iso
.
i wouldn't have done that if the size wasn't quite small,
maybe 30M
if you were tracking mandrake, had pulled the first beta,
and had the choice of another 640M or 150M download and 'patching' ??
Stephen R Parkinson
i can see all of your tests on this e-mail list ok
stephen
- Original Message -
From: "Andrei" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: [Cooker] cooker test!!!
test!!!
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Fre
longer lasting beta than 1 2 ;-)
Questions::
1. Would a binary difference file be possible ?
2. Would it necessaryily be significantly smaller ?
2a. How would it compress ?
3. If it was say 20-50%, would you produce one for the mirrors ?
4. Would it be similar for 'Extension' cdroms ?
Stephen
I have two machines and a LONG list of problems to report.
1)
My home machine has a cd-rw a dvd and a zip drive. You detected and
configured the cd-rw,
but pointed it at the wrong "device" , instead of pointing it to "scd1" it
should have been pointing to
"scd0", I had to change this
Hi there,
I'm not sure if anyone's noticed yet, but the symlink to
/etc/rc.d/rc.modules in /etc is missing in the ulysses 7.2b ISO. rc.sysinit
points to rc.modules in etc, which tends to break things.
Steve
I've just downloaded 750 meg of cooker, and was wondering how people divide
this into the two CDs for an installation.
Thanks.
-- Stephen
I know this must be a much-asked question, but I couldn't find any FAQ on it.
It would be great if it could be added to the cooker site.
My favorite is jpilot. You can synch with a pilot, and it's good by itself too,
since it implements most of the palm pilot organizer functionality.
-- Stephen
Before I updated to 7.1, I followed the directions for setting up a wheeled
mouse (Logitech firstmouse+) at
http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/. Now, after the upgrade, it
doesn't work, and I don't know why either.
Anyone know what's up?
-- Stephen
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you
So much heat in the simmer of summer (New York)
just make a symlink from usr/lib/qt to the latest release already and
change it the next time you upgrade. Saves changing the paths in the
various conf files.
S.
;))
the qt2 files
RH ---/usr/lib/qt2.1.1
Mandrake/usr/lib/qt2
?
-- Stephen
Vincent Danen wrote:
Use both XFS and FontTastic. They can both run simultaneously. X needs
XFS, whereas FontTastic is for WP only.
I figured that out. The reason I disabled XFS was that WP2000 never did
start when both were enabled. I tried playing with the FontTastic font
installer, but it
Sorry, but we can't do anything about that...
NVidia taken the decision to not release driver source,
so the only advice i can tell is :
1 - don't buy nvidia cards, at least until the driver is
reverse engeenered.
2 - if you already own one, see with their development staff.
slightly
Hi there,
I just got my hands on a copy of Corel WordPerfect 2000 ..
I've installed it, along with running a patched installer from the Corel FTP
site for non-Redhat OS's.
WordPerfect 2000 uses a funky font server called "FontTastic". Whenever I
disable XFS and try to start X, I get an error
Hi there,
from which package did you rebuild the kernel driver? Nvidia provides a
whole slew of different packages at
ftp://ftp1.detonator.nvidia.com/pub/drivers/english/XFree86_40 ...
Thanks,
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Guillaume Cottenceau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
other people having pb with apache?
I'm using the 7.1 beta ISO, and seem to be having the same problem. apache
will not load documents regardless of the documentroot, it gives me an
"access denied" .. I have not done much research, so I'm not exactly sure of
the problem.
later,
Steve
On Wed, 03 May 2000, Hassard, Stephen wrote:
I'm using the 7.1 beta ISO, and seem to be having the same
problem. apache
will not load documents regardless of the documentroot, it
gives me an
"access denied"
Same here on an install from a recent (8 hours ago)
mirr
Does anyone know if imwheel works with USB mice?
-Original Message-
From: Pascal Grosse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Help with wheel mice please.
I have been reading a couple of e-mail's regarding
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