On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 20:42, Bob Sanders wrote:
Can Gentoo have a gui'fied automatic install of binaries? Sure. It's just another
set of work to do. Should it? It's not my call. But that's not the real issue.
Should Mandrake drop RPM? Now that's the real issue.
Would you support
I personally think that:
1. Mandrake will survive their little crisis handily; and
2. Mandrake the distro and MandrakeSoft would both benefit if they
took a leaf out of Debian's book.
Mandrake has the most intense and generally loyal user community of any
commercial Linux distro. Debian
Leon Brooks wrote:
I personally think that:
1. Mandrake will survive their little crisis handily; and
2. Mandrake the distro and MandrakeSoft would both benefit if they
took a leaf out of Debian's book.
Mandrake has the most intense and generally loyal user community of any
Le Jeudi 16 Janvier 2003 15:19, Buchan Milne a écrit :
And hey, it's kind of happening anyway, in some degree. Isn't it,
Texstar, Ranger, Borg, Pengiun Liberation Front, Thac and others? Why not
have a plan for managing all that positive energy?
Ranger (me in case you've missed my sig)
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:19 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Would love to see Tex and Borg cooperating with the rest (ie not
building packages that conflict with PLF packages etc).
OK, there's a starting point. I can whack up a MailMan list for them if it
helps, but suspect that Texstar already
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:19 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
But, I agree, it should be formalised and managed. Lenny needs to scale.
OK, shall we start with a how-to-join-the-cooker-club FAQ? That's not
all-encompassing, but it is a step in the right direction. At least it will
provide agreement
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:19 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
Would love to see Tex and Borg cooperating with the rest (ie not
building packages that conflict with PLF packages etc).
Buchan
Although not seen around as much I also rebuild allot of
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:19, Buchan Milne wrote:
Also, I think it would be useful to have a stable-release bugzilla, or at
least allow bug reports against stable releases in bugzilla, but those
reports would not be cc'ed to cooker, but to a stable-maintainers list.
Vince has mentioned
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:41 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:19, Buchan Milne wrote:
Also, I think it would be useful to have a stable-release bugzilla, or at
least allow bug reports against stable releases in
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:41 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
A pitty I don't have the possibility to run cooker (slow dialup) ...
Perhaps someone near you has a fat pipe. Which town, state, country are you
in?
Cheers; Leon
On Thursday 16 January 2003 16:02, Leon Brooks wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:41 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
A pitty I don't have the possibility to run cooker (slow dialup) ...
Perhaps someone near you has a fat pipe. Which town, state, country are you
in?
Cheers; Leon
europe =
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:45, Brook Humphrey wrote:
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:41 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:19, Buchan Milne wrote:
Also, I think it would be useful to have a stable-release bugzilla, or
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:38 pm, Brook Humphrey wrote:
I have been and am willing to do more here especially now that
I'm in the club.
Hurrah!
Now, if a few more of us will wave our hands for this I can get an article up
on the news sites within a week or so which will in essence show
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:45 pm, Brook Humphrey wrote:
It took me a few weeks to get the cooker tree
but after I had it it was fairly easy to keep up to date.
One could kickstart it from a friend's fat pipe, even if snail-mail was
involved.
Cheers; Leon
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:58 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
It is a question of money. I have to pay per minute , so I guess a
sat-uplink would be cheaper than dialup ;)
Ah yes I do understand. I know the rates are different in Germany.
What
Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:45, Brook Humphrey wrote:
It is a question of money. I have to pay per minute , so I guess a sat-uplink
would be cheaper than dialup ;)
If all maintainers were disciplined, it would also be possible to
rebuild some packages automatically
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:13 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
I'm quite happy to leave a copy of Cooker (or whatever) super-niced and/or
after-hours in a VM on suitable client boxes to rebuild, test or otherwise
process stuff that would tie up a more
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:19 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
Plus, if it were end-user-friendly enough (aka have a gui), it would
shut the Gentoo users up ;-).
Do you mean for the srpm rebuilding to have a gui?
I have not used gentoo but I thought
From: Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:45 pm, Brook Humphrey wrote:
| It took me a few weeks to get the cooker tree
| but after I had it it was fairly easy to keep up to date.
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| One could kickstart it from a friend's fat pipe, even if snail-mail was
| involved.
Brook Humphrey wrote:
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:19 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
Plus, if it were end-user-friendly enough (aka have a gui), it would
shut the Gentoo users up ;-).
Do you mean for the srpm rebuilding to have a gui?
More
On Thu Jan 16 22:11 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
General question: if you were joint-packager for a handful-to-a-score of
packages, responsible for doing the following, could you cope?
1. Have an up-to-date local Cooker mirror and installation (mirror for
when the installation breaks
On Thu Jan 16 7:19 -0800, Brook Humphrey wrote:
Do you mean for the srpm rebuilding to have a gui?
I have not used gentoo but I thought it was just a bunch of build scripts more
or less that compiles the whole distro from scratch. Which, well taking a few
days to have a usable distro
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On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:05 am, Levi Ramsey wrote:
From what I understand of Gentoo, it basically downloads the equivalent
of an SRPM and builds it then installs the binary.
Well it uses build scripts and it downloads the soruce tar ball and
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 14:05, Levi Ramsey wrote:
From what I understand of Gentoo, it basically downloads the equivalent
of an SRPM and builds it then installs the binary.
Done it. Came back.
It takes a long time. Even with a dual Athlon and a 10MB line, it takes
a long time.
What I didn't
From what I understand of Gentoo, it basically downloads the equivalent
of an SRPM and builds it then installs the binary.
From Levi's and others comments, everyone seems to have missed the real
differences in the methods.
(S)RPMs carry meta data with each RPM. With Gentoo, the meta data -
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 15:42, Bob Sanders wrote:
The package management system is going to have to deal with this
in a fairly robust fashion and from what I've seen, I'm not convinced RPM can
do that or that I want to put up with the workarounds it will require.
We have the source code for rpm.
Austin Acton wrote:
And how could we drop RPM? There's no good alternative: certainly not
portage. The guys at gentoo spend forever maintaining the ebuilds, and
they're never perfect. And don't say dpkg/apt cuz I might puke. :-)
uPM?
http://www.u-os.org/upm.html
(Now, I didn't try u-os,
On Thursday 16 January 2003 22:47, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Austin Acton wrote:
And how could we drop RPM? There's no good alternative: certainly not
portage. The guys at gentoo spend forever maintaining the ebuilds, and
they're never perfect. And don't say dpkg/apt cuz I might puke. :-)
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