Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 20010720 Chris Mumford wrote: >> gcc3.0 is in contrib and wasn't ready when mdk8.0 got out of the box >(needless >> to says that using a new compiler means rebuilding all packages (3-4 days >with >> rpm-rebuilder) and _testing_) > >The only package that I know has problems with 2.96 is LAME. I

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Chris Mumford
> gcc3.0 is in contrib and wasn't ready when mdk8.0 got out of the box (needless > to says that using a new compiler means rebuilding all packages (3-4 days with > rpm-rebuilder) and _testing_) The only package that I know has problems with 2.96 is LAME. It builds, but has runtime errors in the r

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Geoffrey Lee
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:17:15PM +, Xavier Bertou wrote: > > The reputation of being binary incompatible is mostly based on rumors: it > > affects only dynamicly linked C++ code; and this same incompatibility > > exists between egcs-1.1.2 and gcc-2.95, and will exist between gcc-2.95 > > and

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Xavier Bertou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The reputation of being binary incompatible is mostly based on rumors: it > > affects only dynamicly linked C++ code; and this same incompatibility > > exists between egcs-1.1.2 and gcc-2.95, and will exist between gcc-2.95 > > and gcc-3.0. > > What

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Xavier Bertou
> The reputation of being binary incompatible is mostly based on rumors: it > affects only dynamicly linked C++ code; and this same incompatibility > exists between egcs-1.1.2 and gcc-2.95, and will exist between gcc-2.95 > and gcc-3.0. What about gcc-2.96 -> 3.0 ? Did these $^@$%$!$ again change

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Chris Mumford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why is Mandrake distributing the 2.96 gcc compiler and not 3.0? Actually gcc 2.96 is the most stable version of gcc currently. It fixes many more bugs than it creates. The assertion that it can't compile programs is false, since we did recompile our

Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Thierry Vignaud
"Chris Mumford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why is Mandrake distributing the 2.96 gcc compiler and not 3.0? gcc3.0 is in contrib and wasn't ready when mdk8.0 got out of the box (needless to says that using a new compiler means rebuilding all packages (3-4 days with rpm-rebuilder) and _testing_

[Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?

2001-07-20 Thread Chris Mumford
Why is Mandrake distributing the 2.96 gcc compiler and not 3.0?

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-18 Thread Jason Straight
Yeah, that's what I'd say too. Personally the only problems I've encounterd in the last week since my install were rpmdrake, named putting it's pidfile in the wrong dir /var/run/named.pid where user named doesn't have perms to write, apache's init file with the \. that should just be . Other

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Claudio
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 01:37, Jason Straight wrote: > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 17:40, you wrote: > > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thol > >d= 0 > > > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > > > Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, pa

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Graham
Jason Straight wrote: > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 17:40, you wrote: > >>http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thold= >>0 >> >>Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. >> >>Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? >> >>Thanks, >>Mordy >>PS >>Yes,

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Jason Straight
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 17:40, you wrote: > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thold= >0 > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? > > Thanks, > Mordy > PS > Yes, I know Cooker is the unstable b

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Ryan Little
> > > > > > Does (re)moving /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* help? > > Removed /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*, ran rpm --rebuilddb, got a succesful database rebuild.seems to be working atmwe'll see. Ryan

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Axalon
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Mordechai Ovits wrote: > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thol > > >d=0 > > > > > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > > > > > Can mandrake please put out

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Mordechai Ovits
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thol > >d=0 > > > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > > > Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? > > > > Thanks, > > Mordy > > PS >

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Mordechai Ovits
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 06:08, Jason Straight wrote: > How will you install it? > > :) I already wiped my system and reinstalled 8.0. I'd like to move back to cooker to help with the testing , but can't if rpm is broken. It's just too important of a package. Mordy > On Tuesday 17 July 2001

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread andre
> > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? > > Thanks, > Mordy > PS > Yes, I know Cooker is the unstable branch. > -- > Mordy Ovits > Network E

Re: [Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Jason Straight
How will you install it? :) On Tuesday 17 July 2001 17:40, you wrote: > http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thold= >0 > > Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. > > Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? > > Thanks, > Mordy > PS > Yes, I

[Cooker] why hasnt rpm been fixed??!!

2001-07-17 Thread Mordechai Ovits
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=201&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Apparently lots of people have the FUBAR-ed rpm rpm. Can mandrake please put out a new, fixed, package? Thanks, Mordy PS Yes, I know Cooker is the unstable branch. -- Mordy Ovits Network Engineer Bloomberg L.P.

[Cooker] Why can't I "upgrade" packages using MandrakeUpdate?

2001-05-06 Thread Ryan Little
Whenever I try to upgrade a package using MandrakeUpdate it tells me the packages are allready installedis there something I need to turn on somewhere so that it will force an upgrade? Or do I have to go back to using good ol RPM? Mandrake 8.0 rpmdrake-1.3-55mdk urpm-1.5-34mdk grpmi-8.0-8mdk

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread John Johnson
From: "Andrej Borsenkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ?? > On 26 Apr 2001, Daouda LO wrote: > > > "John Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Andrej Borsenkow
On 26 Apr 2001, Daouda LO wrote: > "John Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just an FYI, Mandrake does have a site for reporting bugs as well as > > the cooker mailing list. > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com > > You must be kidding. I got reponse that bug was assigned! in six months after

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thu Apr 26, 2001 at 04:52:45PM +0200, Daouda LO wrote: > "John Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just an FYI, Mandrake does have a site for reporting bugs as well as > > the cooker mailing list. > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com https://qa.mandrakesoft.com You forget the most imp

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Apr 25, 2001 at 10:02:36PM -0400, Jan Vicherek wrote: [...] > Not much can be done about 1., but 2. & 3. could potentially be > eliminated if cooker testers (list readers and posters), were able to put > their findings and even suggested fixes (patches) into an online bug > tracking dat

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Paul Cox
On Wednesday, Apr 25, 2001, Jan Vicherek wrote: > Not much can be done about 1., but 2. & 3. could potentially be > eliminated if cooker testers (list readers and posters), were able to put > their findings and even suggested fixes (patches) into an online bug > tracking database. Then Mdk woul

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Daouda LO
"John Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just an FYI, Mandrake does have a site for reporting bugs as well as > the cooker mailing list. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com

Re: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread John Johnson
April 25, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: [Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ?? > > Hi, > > I just read the "Why ?" thread. > > I suspect that the "because" is due to a couple of factors : > > 1.Time preasure - RedHat has released something

[Cooker] Why ?? -- Maybe because : ?? And a solution ??

2001-04-26 Thread Jan Vicherek
Hi, I just read the "Why ?" thread. I suspect that the "because" is due to a couple of factors : 1.Time preasure - RedHat has released something, and Mdk is a rival, so it needs to follow. 2.Other events happening - there was some conference before the release or something, and the right

Re: [Cooker] Why?

2001-04-24 Thread fjtmurray
i agree...sending out a distribution with ugly, and nearly unreadable fonts is a major mistake for a company that puts out the otherwise best distro for linux newbies...nor would it make sense for mandrake to respond that the fonts can be easily set to look better by the user...if that the case

Re: [Cooker] Why?

2001-04-24 Thread Sebastian Werner
Hallo, You have created some nice shots ;-) - The small distribution Gentoo (www.gentoo.org) have all these aspects better configured. I wondered about Mandrake. Mandrake want to sell the distributen more to home users, I think. Your suggestions about Apache, PHP and so on are ok but if you wa

[Cooker] Why?

2001-04-24 Thread Mattias Dahlberg
Hi! I'd really like to know why MandrakeSoft never did anything about the fixed font in KDE, nor the minimum font size in Konqueror. Besides, did you consider that your default icon arrangement would look bad on non-English desktops? These are all *small* things that were easy to fix. Linux-Man

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-20 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 19 Apr 2001, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Then it's probably wise to issue a warning to these users then. (e.g. > > specify it in known bug list when 8.0 is out) > > Yes, of course, thanks! :-) > > > Confirmed: the culprit is really the psaux keyboard waiting patch. After > > removing the p

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-19 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 17 Apr 2001, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Please please please wait until you fix the ThinkPad mouse problem. I > > > might have to leave 7.2 on my TP ( and I like 8 at least from Beta3) > > > > It looks like it's not highly probable we'l

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-19 Thread Randy Welch
"R.I.P. Deaddog" wrote: > > On 17 Apr 2001, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Please please please wait until you fix the ThinkPad mouse problem. I > > > might have to leave 7.2 on my TP ( and I like 8 at least from Beta3) > > > > It looks like it's not highly probable we'll have a patch. >

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-18 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 17 Apr 2001, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Please please please wait until you fix the ThinkPad mouse problem. I > > might have to leave 7.2 on my TP ( and I like 8 at least from Beta3) > > It looks like it's not highly probable we'll have a patch. Too sad. Then Thinkpad users should compi

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Randy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > this week? next week? depending on our speed. > > Please please please wait until you fix the ThinkPad mouse problem. I > might have to leave 7.2 on my TP ( and I like 8 at least from Beta3) It looks like it's not highly probable we'll have a

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-16 Thread Randy Welch
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Elton Woo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > AFAIK, the last official version of Mandrake was 7.2, > > will the next version be called > > 8.0? (...since I see this on the beta 3 install screen..., wouldn't > > yes > > > this be misconstrued as "

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-16 Thread Alaric Ravenhall
The thing I'd like to know is if your running an ftp server, apache, mysql, postfix, and three million other services. How do you check? at command line: services --status-all If there are a bunch open, that's part of the problem. Your windows 95 system would expire on bootup if it was trying t

Re: [Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-16 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Elton Woo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAIK, the last official version of Mandrake was 7.2, > will the next version be called > 8.0? (...since I see this on the beta 3 install screen..., wouldn't yes > this be misconstrued as "false > advertising"? Also, will there be anothe

[Cooker] Why version 8.0, and when?

2001-04-16 Thread Elton Woo
AFAIK, the last official version of Mandrake was 7.2, will the next version be called 8.0? (...since I see this on the beta 3 install screen..., wouldn't this be misconstrued as "false advertising"? Also, will there be another beta before the official release? ... and ideas about

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-16 Thread OS
Could some of this performance hit be due to the 1 to 1 heavyweight threading model used by Linux ? Both IBM and all the Linux developers I have actually met say this is no longer up to date with POSIX standards and a pain in the butt, especially since it allows disconnected child processes to

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-16 Thread andre
The reason why konqi starts slower than ie may be related with the fact that linux writes the time you last access a file. I don't think windows does that. This may be why it takes longer. Seeing that harddisk is so increddible fast:) (but you can set this to off) On Monday 16 April 2001 09:4

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-16 Thread Randy Kramer
Civileme, I will take you up on this offer, and write to you again in a few days. First I will add the FastVram option to my XConfig file, check my hard drive parameters (and specifications) on both machines, and make a list of the daemons running on both machines, and gather the other data you

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread Civileme
On Sunday 15 April 2001 06:30, you wrote: > Bruce F. Press wrote: > > Yes, yes, we've heard this before. It is not a satisfactory answer, > > clearly the "idle" loop in kapm-idled could use a nice sleep(15) or > > something!! > > What would be a satisfactory answer? > > Are you concerned because

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread SI Reasoning
ems' BIOS as the > arbiter and executor of power savings - rather than > the kernel doing it > directly. > > Hope this helps... > Gio > > - Original Message - > From: "Bruce F. Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Se

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread Randy Kramer
Bruce F. Press wrote: > Yes, yes, we've heard this before. It is not a satisfactory answer, > clearly the "idle" loop in kapm-idled could use a nice sleep(15) or > something!! What would be a satisfactory answer? Are you concerned because top shows the system being far busier than it really i

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread Paul Giordano
the systems' BIOS as thearbiter and executor of power savings - rather than the kernel doing itdirectly.Hope this helps...Gio- Original Message -From: "Bruce F. Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 7:52 AMSubject: Re: [Cooker

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce F. Press
Yes, yes, we've heard this before. It is not a satisfactory answer, clearly the "idle" loop in kapm-idled could use a nice sleep(15) or something!! Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There are good stretches of the day where my CPU spins > > at around 5

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are good stretches of the day where my CPU spins > at around 50% or more and the process spinning is > kapm-idled. This is not a problem in 7.2. --=-=-= http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s14-1: 1.Why is kapmd using so much CPU time? (REG) Don't w

Re: [Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, SI Reasoning wrote: > There are good stretches of the day where my CPU spins > at around 50% or more and the process spinning is > kapm-idled. This is not a problem in 7.2. Go to www.mail-archive.com/cooker%40linux-mandrake.com/ and search for "kapm-idled" ; you'll see milli

[Cooker] why does kapm-idled spin the cpu so often?

2001-04-15 Thread SI Reasoning
There are good stretches of the day where my CPU spins at around 50% or more and the process spinning is kapm-idled. This is not a problem in 7.2. = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your o

[Cooker] why is meta-L only available as gnome keybinding and Meta-R only available for Sawfish?

2001-04-14 Thread SI Reasoning
I have discovered an odd thing that is a bit frustrating. I like to use the meta keys to create program shortcuts in sawfish. I have discovered that for some unknown reason in cooker... gnome panel can use meta-L but not meta-R and vice-versa in sawfish. Why? Is this a bug or intended? If intentio

Re: [Cooker] Why do fonts rendered with xfs look SO bad !?

2001-04-05 Thread OS
I think xfstt should be put into X and forget about xfs !!! :-) Owen On Thursday 05 April 2001 12:42 am, you wrote: > Happened to me too, with Beta 3 install of LM 8. I don't know anything > about fonts, or about xfstt vs. xfs. I'd like to hear a step by step > solution also. Not just a 'turn o

Re: [Cooker] Why do fonts rendered with xfs look SO bad !?

2001-04-05 Thread Kritifile
OS wrote: > > Hello, > > I have always used xfstt. Not being to sure what the current state of play > with anti aliased fonts were I decided to switch it off and use xfs. > > (Could someone tell me if it matters which font server you use as to whether > you will see anti aliasing ?) > > Boy, w

Re: [Cooker] Why do fonts rendered with xfs look SO bad !?

2001-04-04 Thread Alaric Ravenhall
Happened to me too, with Beta 3 install of LM 8. I don't know anything about fonts, or about xfstt vs. xfs. I'd like to hear a step by step solution also. Not just a 'turn off widget-33-2-1234.cc and recompile this other widget.' Also, aRts in KDE 2.1 is not working for me. I can pull up XMMS

[Cooker] Why do fonts rendered with xfs look SO bad !?

2001-04-03 Thread OS
Hello, I have always used xfstt. Not being to sure what the current state of play with anti aliased fonts were I decided to switch it off and use xfs. (Could someone tell me if it matters which font server you use as to whether you will see anti aliasing ?) Boy, was I in for a shock ! I must

[Cooker] Why old reiser disk format

2001-04-02 Thread Sebastian Werner
Why will the darkx (in beta 1) create a reiserfs partition with the old 3.5.x format. I think we use kernel 2.4-series and can do it with the new disc format. sebastian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM?]

2001-03-25 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Michael Brown wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > I'm using mandrake distribution since quite a time now, and I'm especially > > > happy to see the activity on the Cooker which allow to keep up to date > > > with the latest release. > > > Therefore, there's stg that I

Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM?]

2001-03-25 Thread Michael Brown
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > I'm using mandrake distribution since quite a time now, and I'm especially > > happy to see the activity on the Cooker which allow to keep up to date > > with the latest release. > > Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is i

Re: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM ?

2001-03-25 Thread Eaon
On 25 Mar 2001 14:41:19 +0200, Nicolas Pomarede wrote: > All in all, I find it very annoying to be forced to upgrade the whole > system to install only a few recent packages (not that I don't like > upgrading to the latest MDK distrib, it's just I'd like to do it 'step by > step' before resintalli

Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM?]

2001-03-25 Thread Nicolas Pomarede
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Vadim Plessky wrote: > On Sunday 25 March 2001 12:56, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > | Nicolas, > | > | > Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is it that > | > every time a new release (ie MDK 8) is showing, all the RPM packages > | > suddendly req

Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM ?]

2001-03-25 Thread Vadim Plessky
On Sunday 25 March 2001 12:56, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: | Nicolas, | | > Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is it that | > every time a new release (ie MDK 8) is showing, all the RPM packages | > suddendly requires dependencies that weren't needed with the latest

[Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM ?]

2001-03-25 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Nicolas, > I'm using mandrake distribution since quite a time now, and I'm especially > happy to see the activity on the Cooker which allow to keep up to date > with the latest release. > Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is it that > every time a new release (ie MDK 8)

[Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM ?

2001-03-25 Thread Nicolas Pomarede
Hello, I'm using mandrake distribution since quite a time now, and I'm especially happy to see the activity on the Cooker which allow to keep up to date with the latest release. Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is it that every time a new release (ie MDK 8) is showing

Re: [Cooker] Why

2001-03-09 Thread r j
The packager. Usually the original packager specifies the 'Group' and it almost never gets changed. E.g., gtm, the dld mgr for Galeon and front end for wget was in X11/Utilities group by author and, hence, did not get put into Networking/FileTransfer with the rest of the dld mgrs. MDK changed i

[Cooker] Why

2001-03-08 Thread Greg Sarsons
I've always been confused about the placement of the some of the items in the menu. Previously latte, now Glimmer, is in with the development environment stuff. I guess that is okay but I can do the same things with nedit and it is in with the editors. As well why is gturing in with the amusmen

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-05 Thread David BAUDENS
Evan Edwards écrivit : > On Saturday 03 March 2001 05:52 pm, you wrote: > > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > > which oreder to install the packages? > > > > All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh * > >Better question: a

RE: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-04 Thread Andrej Borsenkow
> > > > > File /usr/lib/libimap.so in kdepim-2.1-1mdk conflicts with file from > > imap-4.7c2-4mdk. > I confirm. I had to remove UoW imap. > Well, can you tell us if the imap support in Kmail ever worked? If > not, this > one can be resolved easily. > First, it has nothing to do with working

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-04 Thread civileme
On Saturday 03 March 2001 21:03, you wrote: > Warly wrote: > > You can thanks the MandrakeSoft KDE team (daouda, david faure, laurent > > montel) and give a special standing ovation to Dadou for his hard > > work on the 7.2 rebuild. > > Alas, not yet ... > > Where is koffice? No change since 2.0.

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 03 March 2001 01:24 pm, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2001 11:52, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > > which oreder to install the packages? > > > > All at once, I'd say:

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread civileme
On Saturday 03 March 2001 20:24, you wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2001 11:52, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > > which oreder to install the packages? > > > > All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Evan Edwards
On Saturday 03 March 2001 05:52 pm, you wrote: > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > which oreder to install the packages? > > All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh * Better question: are the packages out yet? In the kde mor

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Warly wrote: > You can thanks the MandrakeSoft KDE team (daouda, david faure, laurent > montel) and give a special standing ovation to Dadou for his hard > work on the 7.2 rebuild. Alas, not yet ... Where is koffice? Where is quanta? Where is kdeaddutils? File /usr/lib/libimap.so in kdepim-2.

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Ed Wilts
On Saturday 03 March 2001 11:52, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > which oreder to install the packages? > > All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh * No. You'll get all the other languages installed th

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibo'
Alexander Skwar wrote: > > So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > > which oreder to install the packages? > > All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh * > Or rpm -Fvh * Bye. Giuseppe.

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Ray am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:03AM +: > What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? > which oreder to install the packages? All at once, I'd say: rpm -Uvh * Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http:

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Ray
What is the best way to upgrade 7.2 to KDE 2.1? which oreder to install the packages? On Saturday 03 March 2001 14:34, you wrote: > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > > The KDE packages for Linux-Mandrake 7.2 are still under > > > preparation > > > and testing.

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Warly
Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > > > The KDE packages for Linux-Mandrake 7.2 are still under > > preparation > > and testing. They should be available by Wednesday 07-March. > > Sorry for the delay - we do want them well-working and > > well-tested :) > > KDE

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > The KDE packages for Linux-Mandrake 7.2 are still under > preparation > and testing. They should be available by Wednesday 07-March. > Sorry for the delay - we do want them well-working and > well-tested :) KDE 2.1 final binary RPMs for Mandrake 7.2 are now in the mandr

Re: [Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-03 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Peter Ruskin wrote: > On the KDE site there are packages for RH6.2, 7.0, as well > as for Suze and the other distributions, but nothing for > Mandrake. If Mandrake is no longer supporting KDE for 7.2 > please let me know and I'll find a distro that does support > current and previous versions Pe

[Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Ruskin
On the KDE site there are packages for RH6.2, 7.0, as well as for Suze and the other distributions, but nothing for Mandrake. If Mandrake is no longer supporting KDE please let me know and I'll find a distro that does. --

[Cooker] Why no KDE 2.1 packages for 7.2?

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Ruskin
On the KDE site there are packages for RH6.2, 7.0, as well as for Suze and the other distributions, but nothing for Mandrake. If Mandrake is no longer supporting KDE for 7.2 please let me know and I'll find a distro that does support current and previous versions -- --

Re: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-27 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)
On 2/27/01 12:59 AM, "Thomas Mangin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No it is not that simple you must > - postuninstall : insert loop.o > - install the kernel > - postinstall : mkinitrd > - remove the loop.o > > RedHat does it on its latest kernel if you want to get an easy spec file .. Yeah, bu

Re: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-27 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Thomas Mangin am Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 08:59:44AM -: > > No it is not that simple you must > - postuninstall : insert loop.o Well, I don't upgrade, for certain reasons :] But yes, you are right - but that's not big a deal, is it? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.t

Re: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-27 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:11:15AM +0300: > Hmm ... does not that happen when you install kernel-2.4.1-xxx RPM? I do not No, it does not. For sure a initrd is not built after a rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.2-xxmdk.i586.rpm, I don't know if it were built after a rpm -Uvh, but I

Re: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Mangin
| Hi all! | | I've noticed that since, uhmm, kernel-2.4.0-xx no initrd is automatically | built when updating the kernel package. (Hmm, thinking of it, has it ever | been built automatically?) | Well, why is this? IMO it would be better if the initrd were built. As I | imagine (without looking

RE: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-26 Thread Andrej Borsenkow
Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:54 AM > To: Mandrake Cooker Mailing List > Subject: [Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd? > > > Hi all! > > I've noticed that since, uhmm, kernel-2.4.0-xx no initrd is automatically > built when u

[Cooker] Why don't recent kernels build initrd?

2001-02-26 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi all! I've noticed that since, uhmm, kernel-2.4.0-xx no initrd is automatically built when updating the kernel package. (Hmm, thinking of it, has it ever been built automatically?) Well, why is this? IMO it would be better if the initrd were built. As I imagine (without looking at the .spec)

[Cooker] Why are the contrib mirrors so out of date?

2001-02-11 Thread Brian J. Murrell
I am trying to get the newest galeon but it would seem that the contrib portion (I didn't really check any other portions) of the mirrors are about 5-6 days out of date. Why is this? b. -- Brian J. Murrell

Re: [Cooker] Why is a program stopped after 15 minutes on a powerful PC???

2001-01-16 Thread Claudio
On Tuesday 16 January 2001 02:49, you wrote: > On Monday 15 January 2001 09:50, Claudio wrote: > > Hello > > I have a little problem to solve... > > Well this is the point: I have to run a fortran program (a Montercarlo, > > used for simulations) that since the first moment takes about the 99% of

[Cooker] Why is a program stopped after 15 minutes on a powerful PC???

2001-01-15 Thread Claudio
Hello I have a little problem to solve... Well this is the point: I have to run a fortran program (a Montercarlo, used for simulations) that since the first moment takes about the 99% of the CPU (Athlon 1000). All the times it stops after about 15 minutes, and into the logfile generated by the

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-14 Thread OS
Thanks very much for this reply as well. Three usefull bits of information. I will try these out ASAP. Owen On 14 Jan 2001 01:40:09 +0100, J . A . Magallon wrote: > > > On 2001.01.13 OS wrote: > > Please tell me how ulimit controls core dumping. > > > > With 'ulimit' bash internal command y

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-14 Thread OS
Nice one. I'll look at our systems at work and increase the ulimit size. Hopefully this will result in more core files for our delictation ! Thanks, OWen On 13 Jan 2001 22:53:50 +0100, andre wrote: > > > > > Please tell me how ulimit controls core dumping. > > > > Sometimes even when th

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-13 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.13 OS wrote: > Please tell me how ulimit controls core dumping. > With 'ulimit' bash internal command you can limit the size of any core file dumped by the shell (and children, the commands you launch). ulmit -c size: limit the size of core files. man bash, do a serach (/) for ulimi

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-13 Thread andre
> > Please tell me how ulimit controls core dumping. > > Sometimes even when there is output stating that core was dumped nothing > is. > > Sometimes different crashes in the same program may or may not produce a > core dump. Is there an 'r' in the month, did I have eggs for breakfast ? > > O

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-13 Thread OS
Please tell me how ulimit controls core dumping. Sometimes even when there is output stating that core was dumped nothing is. Sometimes different crashes in the same program may or may not produce a core dump. Is there an 'r' in the month, did I have eggs for breakfast ? Owen On 13 Jan 2001 0

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-12 Thread andre
> > > On 2001.01.12 OS wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A colleague at work was bemoaning the fact that when an application > > crashes on Solaris you always get a core file dumped but with Linux it > > appears to completely hit and miss. A program that was core dumping > > before a very minor change

Re: [Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-12 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.12 OS wrote: > Hello, > > A colleague at work was bemoaning the fact that when an application > crashes on Solaris you always get a core file dumped but with Linux it > appears to completely hit and miss. A program that was core dumping > before a very minor change will just stop core

[Cooker] Why does Linux core dump sometimes and not others.

2001-01-12 Thread OS
Hello, A colleague at work was bemoaning the fact that when an application crashes on Solaris you always get a core file dumped but with Linux it appears to completely hit and miss. A program that was core dumping before a very minor change will just stop core dumping. I said I would ask around a

Re: [Cooker] Why hasn't cups been updated to version 1.15 in cooker?

2001-01-05 Thread Till Kamppeter
Done, Till Khawar Zia wrote: > > hey, > Why hasn't cups been updated to version 1.15 in cooker? > > Thank You > --Khawar "quitedown" Zia >

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