Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the ma
Am Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003, 07:59:55 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey:
> Well we could do the sane thing and completely strip gnome from the
> distro accept for a few well placed aps. Thats personnaly why I
> started useing it in the first pace when it was a kde distro.
I think you forgot the s
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 06:20 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b
> > should be ok.
> >
> > But then, k3b and xcdroast must be work
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 15:24, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
>
> > I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos.
> > For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have
> > two applications for each task (may be
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos.
> For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have
> two applications for each task (may be one for kde, the other for
> gnome).
Again, I have to say I do
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b
> should be ok.
>
> But then, k3b and xcdroast must be worked on actively (in the time it
> would take to maintain arson etc).
Except then GNOME guys like me don't want to us
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> k3b 0.8 should be out till next month I guess. So what can arson do what k3b
> can't do ? (yes I'm a k3b addict ;) )
IIRC : Burning bin/cue files.
-Danny
On Thursday 23 January 2003 13:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Warly wrote:
> > Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
> > applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
> > we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and
> > convince ever
On 23 Jan 2003 13:23:29 +
Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
> > Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
> > applications instead of including everything ? As an example
> > shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the man
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit :
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
> > Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
> > applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
> > we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner,
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 04:08 am, Warly wrote:
> Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
> applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
> we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner,
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
> Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
> applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
> we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and
> convince everybody to test it and make it good en
Warly wrote:
> I forward it to product marketting marketting.
Thanks.
>
> Some thoughs (I have no clear idea on the subject)
>
> At present standard is 3 CDs.
>
> - It is not acceptable that download edition has more packages than
> standard edition
Agreed, this addresses that, and also ensu
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Warly wrote:
>
>> I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
>> that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
>>
>
> Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
> space in the GPL CDs?
>
>
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:02, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > *SIGH*
> >
> > PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing.
> >
> > This has been explained at LEAST five times.
> >
> > The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake
> > has
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Perhaps...
> >
> > Put it only in DiskDrake's expert mode. Don't enable it by default, but
> > have a button when you select an NTFS partition that says "Enable NTFS
> > resizing - WARNING: EXPERIMENTAL!"
>
> What if the user has a single NTFS partiti
Adam Williamson wrote:
> *SIGH*
>
> PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing.
>
> This has been explained at LEAST five times.
>
> The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake
> has extra commercial apps on CD3. Space is left on the free version for
>
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Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Umm.. and what's the size of the mc package?
>
> 1.7 megs. Thats the current package sitting in cooker.
mc is the easiest and the the most user friendly of the CLI fm,s I have
used it since moving to linux and I wou
*SIGH* yes I know, and we are now (I thought) discussing why GMC is going to
be left off the 9.1 download cds at 650 megs due to no size left... seems to
me the download cds, especially if we are going to have them the same as the
the first 3 "standard" cds now have more space avail. I know it
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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 04:56 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote:
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> > On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote:
> > > Damian Gat
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 15:50, et wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > Warly wrote:
> > > I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
> > > that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
> ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote:
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> On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote:
> > Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > please forgive me for butting in here... but..
> > >
> > >> > Midnight Commander
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Warly wrote:
> > I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
> > that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0 it shows only 456 megs, and that menas
to me tha
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 16:06, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Warly wrote:
> > I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
> > that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
>
> Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
> space in the GPL
Warly wrote:
> I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
> that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
>
Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
space in the GPL CDs?
Is there any reason why a 4th commercial-only CD is a ba
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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote:
> Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > please forgive me for butting in here... but..
> >
> >> > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
> >
> > you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
>
> I mean
Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> please forgive me for butting in here... but..
>
>>
>> > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
>
> you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages le
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
>
> I agree, but the original proposition from somebody was, I think, to
> have full ntfs support using this set of tools included in Mandrake, so
> I quoted this section in light of that.
>
I don't think anyone said any
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one.
>
> driver has nothing to do with resizer.
> resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which
> assumes having
Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one.
driver has nothing to do with resizer.
resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which
assumes having resolving all interactions between vfs/mm/ntfs
regarding file hole
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:04, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote:
> > Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
> > > Beta 2 now available.
> > >
> > > Two 650 MB ISOs.
> > >
> > > Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesi
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:04, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > As said in another mail is it http://ntfs-linux.sf.net ?
> > Today, people who want to install linux have only one HD computer with windows
> > XP preinstalled. They want to try linux because [put what you want here].
> > But, only with wind
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote:
> Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
> > Beta 2 now available.
> >
> > Two 650 MB ISOs.
> >
> > Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> > reason why it has not been included)
> > NTFS partitioning t
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
> NTFS partitioning tool 87 (could not be put in gpl CDs)
As said in another mail is it http
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't
Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-(
my
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
> > > I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
> >
> > My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't
>
> Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-(
>
> > open Moz
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17:52, Pascal Cavy wrote:
> Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit :
> > On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > > a sound editing tool whose "sound is broken" and which "can not
> >
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 14:13, Austin Acton wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
> > > Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
> > > use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
> >
> >
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit :
> On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > a sound editing tool whose "sound is broken" and which "can not
> > > record" can still be a very good app? :)
> >
> > Sound is o
On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > a sound editing tool whose "sound is broken" and which "can not
> > record" can still be a very good app? :)
>
> Sound is only broken in KDE.
> Austin
"Soundrecording" with gnomemmet
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
> > Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
> > use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
>
> I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
>>
>>Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
>>use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
>
>
> I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
> =)
No, the e
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:14, Warly wrote:
>
> > IceWM 25
>
> Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
> use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:26, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > Most of the people who are using Mandrake (and _not_ most of us) use
> > Konqueror or Nautilus for their file browsing. Those are the ones that
> > (I guess) need to be accomodated.
>
> I guess here you are wrong, if I did not get you false
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:14, Warly wrote:
> IceWM 25
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
Sander
On Monday 20 January 2003 19:46, Todd Lyons wrote:
> I kind of agree with you, but we also have to look at the reality of the
> situation. Anybody who knows enough and is comfortable enough using a
> commandline browser like mc will easily be able to:
> urpmi.addmedia 91Main ftp://blah.blah.bla
I use MC. Every days.
Regards,
Sebastien.
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 19:46, Todd Lyons a écrit :
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> Damian Gatabria wrote on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:12:26PM + :
> > please forgive me for butting in here... but..
> >
> > > > Midnight Commander
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Damian Gatabria wrote on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:12:26PM + :
>
> please forgive me for butting in here... but..
> > > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
> you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
I kind of agree with you, but we also have to look a
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:01, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Frederik Himpe wrote:
> > On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
<...>
> > Eclipse can be compiled with gcj: http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/
>
> Have you tried this? I don't think it would be a good idea to include a
> crashing ecl
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:17, Austin Acton wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > a sound editing tool whose "sound is broken" and which "can not
> > record" can still be a very good app? :)
>
> Sound is only broken in KDE.
-> soundwrapper audacity
Works for me.
TT
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
> >
> > Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
> > mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can
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On Monday 20 January 2003 08:17 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
> >
> > Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
> > mandrake the sound is
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> a sound editing tool whose "sound is broken" and which "can not
> record" can still be a very good app? :)
Sound is only broken in KDE.
Austin
--
Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc.
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teac
Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
>
> Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
> mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can record
> (at least under kde cant say under gnome as Idont really
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
>
> > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
Damian
Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit :
>
>>>pine 52 (commercial)
>>
>>In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the
>>commecial CDs.
>
>
> By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free
> parts or commerc
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 05:14, Warly wrote:
> Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
It is GOOD! It is one of the most useful audio programs. I use it
almost every day. Problem is version 1.1.1 (current in cooker and in
9.0) if full of bugs and bad audio quality. And the next version (1.1.3
I think) w
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On Monday 20 January 2003 02:14 am, Warly wrote:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
>
> OpenOffice 340
> mplayer 329
> Sun JDK 1
Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit :
> > pine 52 (commercial)
>
> In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the
> commecial CDs.
By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free
parts or commercial CD.
According it, you can't distr
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Warly wrote:
> Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
YES!! More like indispensable for those of us who don't like to operate
without it. Why do you think so many voted for it?
Dale Huckeby
Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
>
...
> Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
...
I vote "yes" - I use
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:45:50 +0100 (CET)
"Guy.Bormann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote:
> > Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
> >
> > Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm)
> Yep, as a filemana
Frederik Himpe wrote:
> On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
>>Also requires JRE>=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it
>>uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how
>>easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite good, I would
>>like to see
On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Warly wrote:
> > Eclipse IDE 40 (not packaged)
> Also requires JRE>=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it
> uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how
> easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite go
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100
> Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
[snip]
> > Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
>
> Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm)
Yep, as a filemanager on non-X servers and as a fallback when X is
in
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be
> prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes.
mozilla has everything inside, phoenix has only a browser. I would say
it doen't worth for us to ha
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:52, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
> >>Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
> >
> > according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla
> > be prefered a
This time Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
becomes daring and writes:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
> Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be
prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes.
Last
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100
Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
> Blender 96 (not packaged)
It's in contribs
> Midnight Commander 8
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
<--snip --->
> Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
accordi
Warly wrote:
> Beta 2 now available.
>
> Two 650 MB ISOs.
>
> Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
> reason why it has not been included)
>
Some comments on those not included ...
> Sun JDK 1.4.1_01 217 (could not be put in gpl CDs)
> ogle 166 (codec problem)
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